‘The elite spec for this class changes it up. It’s not the usual faceroll d/d cele ele or staff ele’
No kitten, really? That’s a shock. I’m pretty sure they stated at the start of the elite specs that they’re meant to open up new options and roles for classes. That is exactly what they’re doing. Tempest is a different feel .
So after the expac all there builds will be on even ground? Viable?
For specialize rolls yes. Tempest will be the end all be all support roll between ele and tempest (druid may turn out to be a better healer we do not know for sure though).
This sounds like the way it should be by the name it self “elite specialization” becuse they specialize in a set roll that the base class may cover to a point but not all in as these spec do.
Then why are people complaining? Now all 3 specs will be viable unless they just want to use lightning for dps which I can understand that.
Because it did not get a sword and its not the dps spec its realty that simple.
No, because tempest is not only what people wanted and ele lacked, but also because it’s complete garbage.
So still yes its not dps and it dose not have a sword as ppl wanted.
It dose its job of support well very well to the point of being the first true healing support in GW2.
No, it hasn’t really. You’re the only one I’ve seen defending the spec and I frankly don’t know why. You only take what you want to hear from your comments. If the spec was actually decent then people wouldn’t complain so much. Giving a class that has a close range support spec another close range support spec isn’t really opening up many possibilities, is it? But there’s really no point talking to you, all you do is saying the same old stuff over and over and totally ignoring what everyone says.
Tempest is a true support and it only can support IF that not what your looking for you should not try to forces it into a roll like dps becuse its a waist of every one times. GW2 in the FOM is all about dps and if it dose not dps harder then the base class then its not useful in there view.
It’s funny, because most of the other elite specs can actually pull off multiple roles very well. The damage oriented ones like Daredevil and Berserker can pull off Power, Condi, or Hybrid, Reaper can pull off the same + being tanky, Chronomancer can do anything, Herald can literally do anything, and Tempest is just a Healer in a game where pure healing is rather weak.
So, despite many of the elite specs having flaws or being too weak/strong, their base concepts are good while the Tempest just doesn’t synergize well with the base Elementalist. You can blame it on people wanting Sword or DPS or anything you want; you know it’s not true. If the majority of people disliked it, then there’s probably an issue.
Even then, why would you complain about the Tempest getting buffs if you like it so much? Don’t you want to see it get even better? sigh At this point I just want the Tempest to ship out and still be a mess so I can destroy them all with my Revenant. Unfortunately even though I played a ton of PVP during BWE2, I never saw a single Tempest and I’m afraid I wont get a chance to fight them when the game comes out either.
‘The elite spec for this class changes it up. It’s not the usual faceroll d/d cele ele or staff ele’
No kitten, really? That’s a shock. I’m pretty sure they stated at the start of the elite specs that they’re meant to open up new options and roles for classes. That is exactly what they’re doing. Tempest is a different feel .
So after the expac all there builds will be on even ground? Viable?
For specialize rolls yes. Tempest will be the end all be all support roll between ele and tempest (druid may turn out to be a better healer we do not know for sure though).
This sounds like the way it should be by the name it self “elite specialization” becuse they specialize in a set roll that the base class may cover to a point but not all in as these spec do.
Then why are people complaining? Now all 3 specs will be viable unless they just want to use lightning for dps which I can understand that.
Because it did not get a sword and its not the dps spec its realty that simple.
No, because tempest is not only what people wanted and ele lacked, but also because it’s complete garbage.
So still yes its not dps and it dose not have a sword as ppl wanted.
It dose its job of support well very well to the point of being the first true healing support in GW2.
No, it hasn’t really. You’re the only one I’ve seen defending the spec and I frankly don’t know why. You only take what you want to hear from your comments. If the spec was actually decent then people wouldn’t complain so much. Giving a class that has a close range support spec another close range support spec isn’t really opening up many possibilities, is it? But there’s really no point talking to you, all you do is saying the same old stuff over and over and totally ignoring what everyone says.
Tempest is a true support and it only can support IF that not what your looking for you should not try to forces it into a roll like dps becuse its a waist of every one times. GW2 in the FOM is all about dps and if it dose not dps harder then the base class then its not useful in there view.
It’s funny, because most of the other elite specs can actually pull off multiple roles very well. The damage oriented ones like Daredevil and Berserker can pull off Power, Condi, or Hybrid, Reaper can pull off the same + being tanky, Chronomancer can do anything, Herald can literally do anything, and Tempest is just a Healer in a game where pure healing is rather weak.
So, despite many of the elite specs having flaws or being too weak/strong, their base concepts are good while the Tempest just doesn’t synergize well with the base Elementalist. You can blame it on people wanting Sword or DPS or anything you want; you know it’s not true. If the majority of people disliked it, then there’s probably an issue.
Even then, why would you complain about the Tempest getting buffs if you like it so much? Don’t you want to see it get even better? sigh At this point I just want the Tempest to ship out and still be a mess so I can destroy them all with my Revenant. Unfortunately even though I played a ton of PVP during BWE2, I never saw a single Tempest and I’m afraid I wont get a chance to fight them when the game comes out either.
Just becuse your a bit more tankly to do say melee dmg dose not mean your pulling off another roll. I guess you could say your melee now over say ranged dps but most of though classes already had melee and or ranged weapons and where able to build both high dps and high tankly with out the elite specs.
It dose and it dose it well just in an pt / self support way. All auras get boons from the other lines and more auras means more healing. Being able to boon shair combos well with all the self buffs ele gets. The overloads them self work well with proc ability such as on crit from burning blind on burning and other on crit effects. Overload even works with heal on abitly use it seems (not comply sure about that though). Tempest works well with when in one atument get this effect where you hold in one atument longer for overloads mostly earth all though water get some effects. Any line that gives protection to at least the ele is effected by stronger protection on the tempest line. The only things on the tempest line that dose not get effect by the other ele lines are the pure tempest such as shouts + effects and wh+ effects.
I am not sure why ppl think that tempest line dose nothing for the other ele lines or the tempest line cant get any thing from the other ele lines becuse that IS synergize.
The thing is tempest is getting better with getting an aura on wh and the elite shout becoming something a great deal stronger. I do not think tempest needs much more to fill its roll to give it any thing more would make it op. I do not want tempest to replaces the ele class something your going to see a lot of the other “op” elite specs do. I love ele when i want to go all in support i like the abitly to jump into a tempest but i do not want tempest to be the end all be all. I just want tempest to fill a “specialization” roll.
BTW rev not an elite spec so you come off sounding like you do not like ele more then not liking tempest.
Main : Jski Imaginary ELE (Necromancer)
Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
Server : FA
‘The elite spec for this class changes it up. It’s not the usual faceroll d/d cele ele or staff ele’
No kitten, really? That’s a shock. I’m pretty sure they stated at the start of the elite specs that they’re meant to open up new options and roles for classes. That is exactly what they’re doing. Tempest is a different feel .
So after the expac all there builds will be on even ground? Viable?
For specialize rolls yes. Tempest will be the end all be all support roll between ele and tempest (druid may turn out to be a better healer we do not know for sure though).
This sounds like the way it should be by the name it self “elite specialization” becuse they specialize in a set roll that the base class may cover to a point but not all in as these spec do.
Then why are people complaining? Now all 3 specs will be viable unless they just want to use lightning for dps which I can understand that.
Because it did not get a sword and its not the dps spec its realty that simple.
No, because tempest is not only what people wanted and ele lacked, but also because it’s complete garbage.
So still yes its not dps and it dose not have a sword as ppl wanted.
It dose its job of support well very well to the point of being the first true healing support in GW2.
No, it hasn’t really. You’re the only one I’ve seen defending the spec and I frankly don’t know why. You only take what you want to hear from your comments. If the spec was actually decent then people wouldn’t complain so much. Giving a class that has a close range support spec another close range support spec isn’t really opening up many possibilities, is it? But there’s really no point talking to you, all you do is saying the same old stuff over and over and totally ignoring what everyone says.
No ppl would complain if its not just want they want. If it was a mace tank class ppl would complain that it was not dps. If it was dps ppl would complain that its not just the type they want (most of the time ppl wanted a thf like dps from tempest all though a stealth-less thf what tempest would most likely be like with a sword simply dose not work and ppl would ask for a stealth on tempest lol).
Tempest is a true support and it only can support IF that not what your looking for you should not try to forces it into a roll like dps becuse its a waist of every one times. GW2 in the FOM is all about dps and if it dose not dps harder then the base class then its not useful in there view.
I literally just told you that the reason why I don’t like tempest is not only the fact it’s not anything new, but also because it’s complete trash. Could you please read that over and over till you understand that? Cause I’m really getting tired of you making up reasons why I don’t like something.
Too bad it sucks at support as long as you don’t play the same old d/d build but just with tempest which makes you lose damage. So much for something new. And in the long run you’ll probably do worse than regular d/d.
People are complaining about Tempest because it offers no versatility in the trait line. You have choice between support, tanky support, or more support. Chronomancers, Herald, etc, are all possible to play condi, damage and support. Also these classes have weapon swap.
Tempest is forcing you into a bunker/support style which will ultimately doesn’t work well in guild wars 2 since there is no trinity.
Then there is the total lack of synergy with the arcane line and how the elementalist is supposed to be played swapping attunements because of the long cooldowns. And then the new elite that only changes a few numbers instead of doing something cool.
‘The elite spec for this class changes it up. It’s not the usual faceroll d/d cele ele or staff ele’
No kitten, really? That’s a shock. I’m pretty sure they stated at the start of the elite specs that they’re meant to open up new options and roles for classes. That is exactly what they’re doing. Tempest is a different feel .
So after the expac all there builds will be on even ground? Viable?
For specialize rolls yes. Tempest will be the end all be all support roll between ele and tempest (druid may turn out to be a better healer we do not know for sure though).
This sounds like the way it should be by the name it self “elite specialization” becuse they specialize in a set roll that the base class may cover to a point but not all in as these spec do.
Then why are people complaining? Now all 3 specs will be viable unless they just want to use lightning for dps which I can understand that.
Because it did not get a sword and its not the dps spec its realty that simple.
No, because tempest is not only what people wanted and ele lacked, but also because it’s complete garbage.
So still yes its not dps and it dose not have a sword as ppl wanted.
It dose its job of support well very well to the point of being the first true healing support in GW2.
No, it hasn’t really. You’re the only one I’ve seen defending the spec and I frankly don’t know why. You only take what you want to hear from your comments. If the spec was actually decent then people wouldn’t complain so much. Giving a class that has a close range support spec another close range support spec isn’t really opening up many possibilities, is it? But there’s really no point talking to you, all you do is saying the same old stuff over and over and totally ignoring what everyone says.
No ppl would complain if its not just want they want. If it was a mace tank class ppl would complain that it was not dps. If it was dps ppl would complain that its not just the type they want (most of the time ppl wanted a thf like dps from tempest all though a stealth-less thf what tempest would most likely be like with a sword simply dose not work and ppl would ask for a stealth on tempest lol).
Tempest is a true support and it only can support IF that not what your looking for you should not try to forces it into a roll like dps becuse its a waist of every one times. GW2 in the FOM is all about dps and if it dose not dps harder then the base class then its not useful in there view.
I literally just told you that the reason why I don’t like tempest is not only the fact it’s not anything new, but also because it’s complete trash. Could you please read that over and over till you understand that? Cause I’m really getting tired of you making up reasons why I don’t like something.
Too bad it sucks at support as long as you don’t play the same old d/d build but just with tempest which makes you lose damage. So much for something new. And in the long run you’ll probably do worse than regular d/d.
Its about D/WH for full support the d/d tempest plays a lot like the old d/d ele back in the day just less dmg but more ability to make up for it.
Main : Jski Imaginary ELE (Necromancer)
Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
Server : FA
‘The elite spec for this class changes it up. It’s not the usual faceroll d/d cele ele or staff ele’
No kitten, really? That’s a shock. I’m pretty sure they stated at the start of the elite specs that they’re meant to open up new options and roles for classes. That is exactly what they’re doing. Tempest is a different feel .
So after the expac all there builds will be on even ground? Viable?
For specialize rolls yes. Tempest will be the end all be all support roll between ele and tempest (druid may turn out to be a better healer we do not know for sure though).
This sounds like the way it should be by the name it self “elite specialization” becuse they specialize in a set roll that the base class may cover to a point but not all in as these spec do.
Then why are people complaining? Now all 3 specs will be viable unless they just want to use lightning for dps which I can understand that.
Because it did not get a sword and its not the dps spec its realty that simple.
No, because tempest is not only what people wanted and ele lacked, but also because it’s complete garbage.
So still yes its not dps and it dose not have a sword as ppl wanted.
It dose its job of support well very well to the point of being the first true healing support in GW2.
No, it hasn’t really. You’re the only one I’ve seen defending the spec and I frankly don’t know why. You only take what you want to hear from your comments. If the spec was actually decent then people wouldn’t complain so much. Giving a class that has a close range support spec another close range support spec isn’t really opening up many possibilities, is it? But there’s really no point talking to you, all you do is saying the same old stuff over and over and totally ignoring what everyone says.
No ppl would complain if its not just want they want. If it was a mace tank class ppl would complain that it was not dps. If it was dps ppl would complain that its not just the type they want (most of the time ppl wanted a thf like dps from tempest all though a stealth-less thf what tempest would most likely be like with a sword simply dose not work and ppl would ask for a stealth on tempest lol).
Tempest is a true support and it only can support IF that not what your looking for you should not try to forces it into a roll like dps becuse its a waist of every one times. GW2 in the FOM is all about dps and if it dose not dps harder then the base class then its not useful in there view.
I literally just told you that the reason why I don’t like tempest is not only the fact it’s not anything new, but also because it’s complete trash. Could you please read that over and over till you understand that? Cause I’m really getting tired of you making up reasons why I don’t like something.
Too bad it sucks at support as long as you don’t play the same old d/d build but just with tempest which makes you lose damage. So much for something new. And in the long run you’ll probably do worse than regular d/d.
Its about D/WH for full support the d/d tempest plays a lot like the old d/d ele back in the day just less dmg but more ability to make up for it.
What ability? What do you mean old D/D Ele back in the day with less damage? Do you mean it’s weaker than when we only had 14/70 points to play with in our traits? As in, it’s a garbage spec? I’d believe you then.
Or do you mean it’s just a D/D Ele that just has less damage? I see no way to make it up because it has less worthy traits than an Earth/Water/Arcana Ele. Outside of Water Overload, none of the Overloads really support your team either. Fire Overload does give the group Might, but the range is so bad and the duration is so low that you’re better off just blasting your own fire fields.
Auras aren’t very good group support(even Magnetic Aura is kinda worthless here since it needs to hit the actual players instead of say, a wall or a giant dome) and you can’t take all the lines you’d want with Aura traits without crippling yourself and the healing you can output. You’d have to take Air/Earth/Tempest which means no Water line and even then, your Aura up-time isn’t great as you’d rely entirely on Shouts to support your team in any way. Taking Water/Earth/Tempest? That’s just a Healer which is pretty useless in like 90% of the game, assuming it’s even made useful in HoT, which isn’t a given.
Best thing Tempest can do is break the game with Herald’s Facet of Nature + Warhorn Fire #4.
How long is Jski going to pretend that tempest isn’t just a clone of the current meta d/d build but worse?
Even if it was stronger that wouldn’t stop the complaints because it’s that fact that it’s a clone that makes it bad; no amount of buffing or nerfing anything will change that it’s a clone.