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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Hey everyone! I had time to sit down today and do a one man talk about our traitline, explaining and showing the traits, giving my opinion on which one rock and which one that sucks! I take it very relaxed in this one, felt better just taking my time going over them all instead of following my notes, so might be a bit random (“I’m a bird” ect), but I hope new players will find it usefull, I at least missed something like this when I started to level!

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy_hULzoWP8

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkT6UylYXz0&feature=youtu.be

As allways! Please give feedback!
I’m probaly gonna chill in sPvP this evning, frapping and doing commentary about how to play the Engineer in combat, explaining and showing stuff like kiting, how to use a build or two, talk abit about how to handle the classes I run into and the stuff like that!

Gonna follow it all up with 8x Videos “How to beat X proffesion” where I will take my time to explain how to general fight vs the 8 classes in the game! So hope that’s something you guys would like to see!!
-Drakeco Dustslinger

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

I am looking forward to the 8x videos. This last 2 vidoes are more for very new player. Both are ok but not awesome

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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Yeah I know most experince Engineer palyers won’t gain anything from them, but I felt that the new players could find it usefull, and I needed the commentary ecperince ect! All ready working on finding people willing to partipate in 1vs1 duels I can use in those commentary videos aswell (So I can show how to fight aswell)

I dropped the idea of going into sPvP hotjoins for commentary, first of I sucked at multi tasking so could’t play and speak on the same time, and also when it’s 8vs8 everything just became a mess of people shooting all over the place! So gonna frap the stuff, and then create the commentary after hehe

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

Then just play and comment later

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Ello everone! Just an update, and two fun videos (Nothing serious) for you guys into a cheap laugh!

The videos! Markus staying at my place this weekend, so we decided we wanted to make some funny videos with us doing some action in WvW where you only need a 2-5 people and still can do a difference!

Memories of Drakeco Dustslinger & Markus Valadir – Episode 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNaq2U21wuE

Memories of Drakeco Dustslinger & Markus Valadir – Episode 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB63onnsHKM&feature=youtu.be

Nothing serious, but you might find it fun!

On the more serious note, Markus is going to help me create the very first “How to video”, this weekend, going to be “How to: Theif”, and I will follow up that with “How to: Mesmer” with the help from Osicat! Thanks to both of them! It’s good be made in sPvP, where I will show case some of the most Iconic/Watch out for skills, and a little talk about some of the often used builds by these classes!

If we have the time, and get the footage there might come a new build video of, time will tell! Anyway! Take care Engineer’s!

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Posted by: NovaScience.1096

NovaScience.1096

Great videos man, watched all of them. I’m currently playing an engineer in sPvP/tPvP/and WvW as well. I’m leaning towards bombs when using a condition build. Using your build as a template, but editing it a little since It was a “insta-win” button for me in WvW. Anyways great videos and thanks for the knowledge, I’m happy in a way that most engies got out of the 100nades meta and looking into more builds.

-Hemophilia

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Glad you like the videos, and even more happy about them in spiring you to edit the builds a bit and create you own! That’s the main thing I hope I achive with these videos!
Still gonna take a bit of time before new videos will come up sadly, mostly cause I’m quite busy IRL, and a new big patch where I will have to check everything out! But so far, every single build I have made a video with is either stronger now, or the same, which means they are all useable in WvW at least!

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Posted by: fiftypercentgrey.7108

fiftypercentgrey.7108

Thanks for this, Amadeus.
I’m experimenting with everything NOT HGH atm and can’t wait to see what others did after the patch. :P

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

How to: Theif

Here we go guys! Giving it my first try explianing how I battle the sneaky sneaky Theif! GIve it a look, and see if it can help you out, and be more then welcome to give back feedback about what works, and what ain’t working! I’m not sure what my next video is gonna be, cause I got a lof of stuff in the works atm. so time will telL!!

@Fifty you are mroe then welcome! I have tested all my old builds, and all of the are quite potent still, either stronger then before, or the same, so plenty of meat to play with there!

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

How to: Theif

Here we go guys! Giving it my first try explianing how I battle the sneaky sneaky Theif! GIve it a look, and see if it can help you out, and be more then welcome to give back feedback about what works, and what ain’t working! I’m not sure what my next video is gonna be, cause I got a lof of stuff in the works atm. so time will telL!!

@Fifty you are mroe then welcome! I have tested all my old builds, and all of the are quite potent still, either stronger then before, or the same, so plenty of meat to play with there!

very informative.
Those are the kind of video’s I was talking about indeed.
basic for some, but superb for learning engineers.

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Posted by: Maskaganda.2043

Maskaganda.2043

nice vid mate!

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Posted by: Ayestes.1273

Ayestes.1273

I really liked the Mine usage against that Thief.

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Hehe thanks all of you! Glad you liked it!

I actually play around with mine a lot atm! It’s quite usefull vs many classes, but I wish it removed 2 boons instead of 1, would be perfect! tho, 1vs1 I still feel Net Turret with Sitting Duck trait is superior!

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Hello again everyone! I had a quite fun, challange sent to me in WvW yesterday, I ended up in a 2vs2 duel against two tPvP players (french people), that wanted to beat us! That didn’t go very well for them, so it ended with a lot of whine from Mogwow (an elementalist) about Confusion being OP in WoW, and that my build was for noobs and wouldn’t stand a chance in sPvP! I thought to myself, THAT he shall not call me!

So Drakeco Dustslinger went to sPvP to test out: Can the Confusion bomb build work in there? I met a Scepter/Dagger Elementalist, a Pistol/Dagger Thief, and a quite nasty Phantasm Mesmer with Greatsword/staff (Phantasm build appear stronger in sPvP then WvW to me, mostly because I don’t think Phantasm have more life in WvW then sPvP, and I deal more damage and have more defence from the higher stats value in WvW then sPvP, correct me if I’m wrong tPvP players :P)

Anyway, it all turned into 4 episodes! Enjoy!:

Episode 1 – “The tPvP duo that went to WvW”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgS1sEasnv4

Episode 2 “The Gunslinging Asura Thief”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7dyRtG53uA&feature=youtu.be

Episode 3 “The Wrath of Mogwow”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjuB3--v99Q&feature=youtu.be

Episode 4 “The Arrival of a champion”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFS6N9yoCi4&feature=youtu.be

hope you guys will enjoy!

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Posted by: Maskaganda.2043

Maskaganda.2043

heh, I had the chance of fighting mogwow and his thief buddy (not sure if that one, but it was an asura too) and mogwow beat me twice. I wasn’t using an ideal spec tho, I want my revenge!
funny how we come across the same players while playing in different servers.
good job^^

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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What!?! He bested you?! You need your revange in an ideal spec for sure! I gues it’s the same Thief, Tapsss, they appear to tag team all the time in WvW and do tPvP together as well! But yeah, seeing as gandara was against AR for quite some time I gues it’s natural you end up against these fellows aswell!

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Posted by: Maskaganda.2043

Maskaganda.2043

yes, it was indeed tapsss, that one I beat like 5-2 if I recall correctly. the ele was tougher, I was running C and runes of aventure at the time which didnt really help me againt him. Against tapsss I experimented with pain inverter and it was nasty :p I
’m sure I could do better against mogwow now with my current spec but who knows, maybe he can too :p

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Well he press skills like a mad man when he got Confusion on him, and then procced to whine about it afterwards! So I’m quite sure you will ineed win with your new build bahaha

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

How to: Theif

Here we go guys! Giving it my first try explianing how I battle the sneaky sneaky Theif! GIve it a look, and see if it can help you out, and be more then welcome to give back feedback about what works, and what ain’t working! I’m not sure what my next video is gonna be, cause I got a lof of stuff in the works atm. so time will telL!!

@Fifty you are mroe then welcome! I have tested all my old builds, and all of the are quite potent still, either stronger then before, or the same, so plenty of meat to play with there!

perfect video. Well done.

Unfortunately your build require skill

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

Well he press skills like a mad man when he got Confusion on him, and then procced to whine about it afterwards! So I’m quite sure you will ineed win with your new build bahaha

But he also sounds like the kind of player who is loking for challenges and to improve himself… I doubt he’ll keep mashing abilities next time

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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Time will only tell! It all did sadly end with him raging at me for using a OP build, and that Engineer > Elementalists allways, so I sucked because he won a few of the duels, shouldn’t be poissble for a good Engineer to loose to a Elementalist, cause they are so OP! So I highly doubt he learnt anything from it! But time will tell! Was fun none the less

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Posted by: ederjck.1267

ederjck.1267

How to: Theif

Here we go guys! Giving it my first try explianing how I battle the sneaky sneaky Theif! GIve it a look, and see if it can help you out, and be more then welcome to give back feedback about what works, and what ain’t working! I’m not sure what my next video is gonna be, cause I got a lof of stuff in the works atm. so time will telL!!

@Fifty you are mroe then welcome! I have tested all my old builds, and all of the are quite potent still, either stronger then before, or the same, so plenty of meat to play with there!

Awesome video. That maneuver where you put the confusion bomb and then prooced to prybar him when he leaves stealth was sick.
Keep those How to videos coming, please!

Cant´t wait to watch today´s duel videos when I get home!

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Posted by: Lanny.6987

Lanny.6987

Always nice to see folks keeping it classy.

Good thief video, Amadeus. I’m looking forward to the other class ones. You’re spot on with aggressive play and denying the thief mobility which reminds me (yet again) that I need to improve my use of glue shot.

Those d/d ele’s are fun. Have had two 10+ minute fights with them in the last few days. One a duel, the other for keeps. That one started 2v1 (us after her). She was strong and the warrior that was with me dropped. (First time I’ve seen a mist-form spike. Impressed the hell out of me.) Then it was back and forth with yak guards and minotaurs joining in. Two more on her side (who I totally missed amongst all the NPCs also trying to take our heads) finally put me down. I find that if i can’t sucker a good d/d into suiciding into confusion stacks I have a huge amount of trouble closing the deal. Wondering if that’s been your (and Maska, same question) experience as well?

Time will only tell! It all did sadly end with him raging at me for using a OP build, and that Engineer > Elementalists allways, so I sucked because he won a few of the duels, shouldn’t be poissble for a good Engineer to loose to a Elementalist, cause they are so OP! So I highly doubt he learnt anything from it! But time will tell! Was fun none the less

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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Very good D/D Elementalists are probaly the second best condition cleasner (Staff is better have they told me, but it’s a worse 1vs1 build) so D/D elemtnalist is the best 1vs1 Condition cleanser pretty much! So we are in for a really tough road there!

The thing is, the really good D/D elementalist will as you say, not take confusion damage, either they cleanse, or stop doing anything! So what I have begun to try, is to apply a bit of small duration conditons, like bleeding, Incendary Proc burning and blinds + one of my 5 stacks confusion! Then he will cleanse it, and then I apply it again! What I*m trying to say, is I use the Confusion to lure out cleansing ability’s, because they will allways cleanse it, and then I beef up my Burning and Poison conditon’s on them (Net Turret + Sitting duck help a lot with the extra 2x Condtions)! and apply everything I have! My burning atm in WvW is doing about 740 each thick, so that will drop many of them as well, so I let that one slowly wither them down while I try lure out cleansing skills with the Confusions!

But yeah, they are still really really tough to drop, but luckey they melee a lot, so I can hit them with bombs as well! I use Rocket Boots or Net Turret as my last Utility against them most of the time! Which either give me one more burn and a stun break, or plenty o Immobilse, Vulerabillity and a stun! But they are as you said, really hard to close the deal on!!

I actually find them easier in a burst build, a HGH power nade build with Rifle will dish out good solid auto attacks, and the nade barrage burst can really drop them fast, also the build in net is golden vs them!

I’m making the new how to video atm, gonna be “How to: Shatter Mesmers” with Osicat being the mesmer, we deiced to make a seperate video for Shatter Mesmers and one for Phantasm memser, because they are so different and I got a lot to explain about them!

I think the next is gonna be Elementalist now Lanny, mostly because you have pointed out they are inded a tough enemy hehe!

and glad you two (Lanny and Ederjack) enjoyed it!

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Posted by: Maskaganda.2043

Maskaganda.2043

I find that if i can’t sucker a good d/d into suiciding into confusion stacks I have a huge amount of trouble closing the deal. Wondering if that’s been your (and Maska, same question) experience as well?

my experience is that 1v1 against a good bunkerish d/d ele its a matter of who makes the least mistakes. they generally aren’t able to burst me down and neither am I except when they get me with their knockdown combo (rtl + fire ring + churning earth) -which is easy to avoid- or when I get them with confusion which is also easy to avoid.

a couple of weeks ago we had a 2v2 against 2 d/d eles which was really tough. it ended up in a back and forth between spawns that lasted hours, with a number of randoms joining on either side but mainly just and my guardian buddy against those 2 eles. at some point towards the end we finally fought each others in a clean 2v2; they both targeted me and we both targeted the squishier one. now, my friend is an awesome guardian who can take a ton of damage but unfortunetly they didnt hit him at all and he couldnt do much but spam dodges near me for heals as he struggled to even catch them melee.
eventually (and bare in mind this was an extremely long fight) I managed to take one down and the other quickly died afterwards, that double cleansing was making it very tough. what I ended up doing was wait for a low hp opening, stack all the confusion I could and then stun with supply crate just as it ended. ofc, he would try to rtl away but if you pay attention you can start casting magnet as soon as they switch to air and pull their rtl back to you.
it took alot of focus and I was near death often but we pulled it off. I havent had such a tough fight.. ever.

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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Deep in the night, I was uploading a new video! I present to you all; How to: Shatter Mesmer! A big thanks to Osicat for giving out tips to fight the shatter mesmer, and for helping with the footage!

I hope you all will like this one as much as you liked the first “How to” video, and hopefully people will give feedback if there is somethign the video is lacking! Anyway everyone! Here goes the second How to Video! Enjoy

“How to: Shatter Mesmer”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6indetq-E_Q&feature=youtu.be

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Posted by: galandor.1059

galandor.1059

Wow thanks Drake, been playing a little over a month and still learning the game and my only profession thus far is Engi, and the Mesmer is by far the most frustrating class for me to fight. Learned a lot from your video. Thanks!

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Posted by: Kardiamond.6952

Kardiamond.6952

Man Amadeus that’s one crazy video right there!

Nice job man!

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

2 nice guides so far, keep em coming.

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Hehe thanks to all of you! I’m glad you all like the guides! and I’m slowly looking into what the next gudie is gonna be, but probaly D/D elementalist! Think I found the player for it! Sadly it’s gonna be a few days before I can get it up and going, cause I got a Exams coming up, so for some silly reason I need to focus on IRL stuff hehe

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Posted by: Cero.5132

Cero.5132

Hey there I really love your builds they´ve helped me a lot until now.
But I have really hard problems against mesmers… No, not shattermesmer… gs/staff illu mesmer thingy o.o
I dotn really know the build but my friend told me he used 20/15/25/0/10
AND he used null field… annoying little thing…
Couldnt really get any conditions on him…

But I just started pvp so it could also be that it´s a l2 kitten ue… On the other hand I didn´t have that much problems with a shatter mesmer, … YET.

Do you have any advice there? o.o I mean… sure, it´s l2p but…. some advice except for that? x)

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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Hey there Cero! I’m glad your having a good time with my builds!!!

I’m in the middle of an exam period atm, but I’m done for this period on monday, where I plan with Osicat for making a “How to: Phantasm Mesmers”, which is what your friend is running!

Now, I found out there is two kind of them, there tanky ones, and the pew pew damage ones! The thing is, I have never given them much credit in WvW, mostly because of the stat gains there, I do more damage, and the phantasms have the same amount of health in WvW as in sPvP —> They die faster in WvW. So in WvW I just melt them with conditions most of the head in I have had, but again, I never did do a real 1vs1 duel against one in WvW, because most don’t run it (It’s a bad roaming and teamplay build it appear)

Anyway, enough about that: Phantasm mesmers are super super strong 1vs1 duel builds! So no matter how they build it, your in for a bad time! The worst encounter I ever had was vs one with 25k health and only running ranged phantams (no kiting them) and plenty of condition removal! I duel’ed him in sPvP and I won once out of like 10 duels, and that was only because I perfect timed my elite skill! So okay, that’s depressing xD

What tricks I have learnt on the other hand when dueling them is:

#1. Kite the Melee Phantasms, and try use LOS as much as you can! This will get the phantasms running, and often stacking up on you, so you can AOE them

  1. in a condition damage build, we won’t take much of the retalition d amage the phantasms deliver, because that won’t trigger from a condition, Burning is your best friend here.
  2. Stastic Shot when he spawns the Phantasms is gold, and all phantams spells got obvious casting animations (Izerker is where they hold the huge greatsword up in the air as an example), which also means time to dodge like ½ second after you see that animation (Dodge backwards, it will spin forward)
  3. Null Field = Your thicket to run out of LOS, and heal/bunker up, not worth attacking him unless his so low you might kill it with pure power damage
  4. Use all the AoE skills you can, to hit everything if possible, but focus the Mesmer with your single target skills, still the best one to attack, and the more pressure you put on him, the more in control of the battle you will be!
  5. Final, Phantasm builds in sPvP for 1vs1 dueling is freaking cheesy (Sorry Mesmers, but it is), It’s silly stong compared to pretty much everything 1vs1 in sPvP, so play cheesy as well! Put up the burning with some other conditions on him after his Null Field, and start running away from him and let the conditions do the damage, then head in again and start over!! Hit and run tactics is fair play vs them :P

If you do real tPvP (5va5),they become less of a problem, because it’s a bad build when they run into 2 players (because the phantams gonna get pwned)! So don’t bother attacking them alone, you are better off going with a friend there! But I will get a video up on how I fight them, whe nI have trained some more in sPvP against them, because I really never done much dueling against them (and as I said, they are much stronger in sPvP), but this is some basic tips I have learnt doing the few duels I had, which have helpt a lot! But if you run into a huge Norn with Scepter/pistol and Staff, and your running a condition damage build, just run! His slow as hell, but you won’t kill him! That mesmer build was silly! xD

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Here goes a little update on everything, plus a little fun video I have been shooting while I took some breaks from reading books and getting ready for exams!

First off, here goes my level 15 ranger challange in WvW, a little ranger out hunting on his own against level 80!

Also the plan is for the end of this week (last exam got moved to 2morrow), and the weekend, to try shoot either:
1. How to: Phatansm Mesmers
or
2. How to: D/D Elementalist’s with Blaba (A great elementalist player I have duels with)

I will see what I can get going with them first! Also I have moved to Gunnar’s Hold with my Guild, so I can now be found roaming there

Edit I uploaded the Level 15 Ranger in a version you guy’s in USA can see as welL! Watch it here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtYPVrZbeRE&feature=youtu.be

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Posted by: Lynnie.7213

Lynnie.7213

I have a question, drakeco. how you deal have condition damage classes? what’s your means to get rid of conditions stacked on you?

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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There is 3 classes that will give me trouble when running a condition heavy build, which is:
1. Engineer – Any Condition Build
.2 Necromancer – Any condtion Build
.3 Ranger running a Shortbow – Trap build!

The rest won’t be a problem in a condition perspective, at least not what I have ever been facing, they will only have 1-3 different condition’s, and I handle the little condition they do with Antidote and Sigil of Generosity/Purity!

Now, the really tough fight’s are vs the 3 above classes.
The way I handle Condition’s, is the same way as I handle a burst build, by dodgeing and blocking the right skills (easier said then done), and by having a superior acces to conditions compared to them!

Engineer is a matter for me about knowing the skills to dodge, and being able to put out more conditions then they can! The HGH Engineer’s is everywhere as an example, but I handle them by putting out a lot more burning and confusion then they can (I can run two kit’s, they can’t) and my best example of how I fight them is this video vs Maskaganda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEniANYYKRQ
(It’s still freaking hard, and it really boils down to who is the best)

Necromancers only really stack bleeding, and then do some condition spikes where they apply a ton different! Here it’s a mater about avoding/blocking the condition spikes, and if you do get hit, it’s time to play defensive and outlast it! Also I often out damage them a lot with conditions because of burning and Confusion, and I never multi stack conditons on them, since their heal will remove it all

Trap Ranger’s is just freaking insane 1vs1, and I got a super hard time vs those, but again it’s a matter about trying to avoid/outlast the different conditions that come from the traps, and then saving antidote for the large bleeding stacks they do!

Conditions is the biggest weakness in most of my builds, but every build have a weakness, and I can still win vs condition builds, by being able to do way more of it and timing Dodge/Block/Blind ect! But it’s for sure a tough encounter when you run into them But many tend to forget that skills that apply conditions can be avoided the same way you can avoid burst skills, and most builds (Not mine, I got several), got only a few really good condition damage skills!

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Posted by: Welswift.9813

Welswift.9813

Hey Drakeco! I really love this Condition Bomb build, but I have a small problem… my rifle.

You see, I really love my rifle. I often have a slight lag, so his net shot really helps give me the control I need to make my pry-bar happen, in a way that glue shot just can’t. (With my occasional lag, glue shot just can’t cut it). I also really love the rifle’s integration with Throw Elixir S, able to make the most of stability with an Overcharged Shot that I suddenly remember to brace myself for and not get KDed, allowing me to have even more control! (I guess I’m a control freak)

I can clearly see how useful Static Shot is to you, but do you think that a rifle with this build would work? Would the sacrifices be too much? Also, if I currently have mostly PTV gear (Balthazar Karma Gear), what runes/signet would you suggest I use?

Thanks for reading and all you have already done to make this build awesome!

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Hey there Welswift! It was a really intrestring question you came up with! Now, I have never tested this out, but you really got me set on some Theory crafting! And I’m actually quite happy with how this turned out, so might actually give it a go myself as well!

It looks like this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/engineer/?2.0|4.1b.h5|0.0.0.0.0.0|1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719|1b.63.1b.63.1b.63.1b.63.1b.63.1b.63|k53.k6a.0.a1.k68|30.7|2d.2e.2x.2j.0|e

I call it the Confusion Bomb Hybrid!

I went with you haveing a full P/V/T armor set and a Rifle, and I actually ended up wih a quite decent amount of Power, Condition dmaage, 40% crit chance and plenty of defensive stats!

There is a few things you have to keep in mind and can consider:
Immobilse scales with your condition duration, so your net shot will last even longer
You a bit low on burning, so maybe swap Rocket boots in, instead of elixir S (I would do that), since you all ready got a lot of defensive stats
The Sigil is open to you, but I recommend that you have have a weapon set (maybe 2x Pistols for faster gain) with Corruptio so you cna get the bonus 250! I do recommend Generosity/Purity for the conditon removal tho.
You will have a kitten ton of blind and control, so you will really be a pain to 1vs1!
Also your bombs and prybar will do a healthy mix of power damage first + the condition damage!
you still got 60% condition duration!

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Posted by: Juice.9675

Juice.9675

i try to figure out ur equipement gear rune.. but i cant gof ur dps confu bomb… can u help me with it

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Posted by: Juice.9675

Juice.9675

yea thx alot i alredy wast alot of money xD u save me lol

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Here we goes everyone! I had a lot of data I stacked up doing my roaming time in Gunnar’s Hold, and it was some time since I last did a roaming video! Soooo here we goes! Confusion bomb Vol. 2! Enjoy it everyone!

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Posted by: Maskaganda.2043

Maskaganda.2043

WHAT. no elixirs, no might stacking, no static discharge and multiple kits??? you must be exploiting something!

nice vid amadeus, I really enjoyed those fights at astralfoghavenNEcamp, reminded me of something :p

one thing tho, I know you like sigils of purity/generosity and corruption but with all that kit swapping wouldn’t an “on swap” sigil like geomancy/battle/hydromancy work better? I can see chill being very good to keep people on your bombs.

also, inb4 useless build next patch

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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ahhh god kitten Maskaganda! Now the entire community will know I’m exploiting!!! :O

But yeah, that NE cam kitten imply the most fun to camp at, and thanks for the tips about easy action can be found by camping camps!

On the Sigils, I actually think a long way you are right, I have begun some slow testing with it actually, atm it’s Superior Sigil of Leeching, which steals 975 (So deal 975 pure damage, toughness don’t migate it when I see the damage, and heals me for 975), which works awesome a lot of the time! Also it’s neat I don’t need to be in melee range!

I’m for sure gonna test Geomancy and Hydromancy as well, I want to stay away from the might stacks hehe, so won’t try Battle! But as I swap kits so much as I am, I’m also afraid, that at least for the 120 range sigils I often will waste them! But it will be tested

Edit. Also one thing I really love about this build, is the last utility slot is sooo open, so I can swap it on the run for whatever I feel like, it’s a great feeling! the ones I use the most are: Elixir S (The best in any 1vs2+ encounters), Elixir R (the best vs condition classes for me), Rocket Boots (So awesome in 1vs1 sitautions, still good vs more), Net Turret (The best 1vs1 tool against anything that ain’t a 100% burst Thief or shatter mesmer) and mine (for when I just wanna have fun and troll a Thief ^^)

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Posted by: MentalPause.9183

MentalPause.9183

I dig it. Solid build, but one thing I was wondering when watching have you tried the rifle in a build like this? I ran something very similar before and I loved the control the rifle offers; net shot, overcharged, combined with bombs. Those abilities seem to do what you often want to do with your utilities anyway, like boots and net turret. Condition duration/damage still benefits rifle nicely with its bleeding/vuln/immobilize. Plus you still have the plethora of conditions applied via the bomb kit and consistent burning via the trait. You’d probably have to tweak your stats a bit to include more power which is kind of unfortunate considering hybrid directly benefits from HGH build and getting those types of stats would be difficult without it. Just a thought.

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

It looks like this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/engineer/?2.0|4.1b.h5|0.0.0.0.0.0|1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719|1b.63.1b.63.1b.63.1b.63.1b.63.1b.63|k53.k6a.0.a1.k68|30.7|2d.2e.2x.2j.0|e

I call it the Confusion Bomb Hybrid!

I went with you haveing a full P/V/T armor set and a Rifle, and I actually ended up wih a quite decent amount of Power, Condition dmaage, 40% crit chance and plenty of defensive stats!

It’s funny you would ask about the Rifle, cause one did a few days ago as well in tis thread I came up with the above build, where I run with a Rifle, and I have begun testing it now (But I’m a bit short of time for gaming)! But anyway, the stuff I have been looking into atm it’s for sure a 1vs1 control beast, and it leaves pretty much everything I ran across dead on the ground! It gets more troublesome when more enemies arrive, mostly because I miss the cone Burning and the bounce blind/confusion! That said, it can still handle 1vs2 quite well, and it’s pretty fun to roam with! there will probaly come a video of it when I get the time hehe

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Posted by: vinceftw.5086

vinceftw.5086

Drakeco, I’m starting an engineer because of your videos. I’ve said that on your last vid too xD One question: what’s your opinion on Pain Inverter for this build? It seems like it’d be very strong.

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

I’m glad you gotten into the engineer, because of my video! :-D
You can for sure run pain inventer in this build as the last utility! In speciel melee players is fun to troll with it! ;-)

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Posted by: Placentalicious.9453

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Hello Amadeus, I’m a great fan of your confusion bomb build (I use something quite similar, only some traits are different). Since this build relies heavily on confusion, what do you think will happen to the upcoming confusion nerf in WvW? Do you think it’s still going to be viable? Do you think that a few modifications might be needed to make it viable again? Or do you think it’s going to be useless?

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Hey there Placentalicous! I love to hear about people that use my build with their own personal twist! Feel free to share it in this thread so more people can see it!

To your question: I will of cause have to give it a test inside WvW when th paetch hit, but so far I have been testing the build for some time inside sPvP to see how 50% less Confusion damage feels, and even while confusion deals a lot of the damage in the build, it’s mostly vs players not understanding confusion. Good players didn’t take damage from it anyway, and I just used it to lure out condition removal or shut them down for some time!

The build still got pretty much one of the best burning uptime in the game, able to keep it up permanent quite well. So that’s still a major damage dealer right there, and probaly the reason why it’s still working quite well in sPvP at 50% less confusion damage, but it is of cause a major damage nerf. It also means I will have a much harder time to justify picking up bomb kit, instead of grenade kit in WvW, in sPvP bomb kit feels a lot stronger because of the time we fight on the points and it really shine.

But outside in WvW Nade kit is, even before the 50% damage nerf to confusion, nades feels stronger then bomb kit on many points: The Freeze nades beat glue bomb, the bleeding nades beat the burning bomb (the duration on those bleeds a sick!), the smoke bomb is on some points better then the flash grenades, but that can hardly justify picking it over grenade kit.
Concusion bomb is of cause what sells the kit for me, and it’s a lot stronger then the poison grenades (even while those are strong)! I mean 5 stacks confusion in AOE won me a lot of encounters where I was outnumbered because people tend to spam a lot more skills there.
but with a 50% damage nerf? meeeh, I will have to test it, but i’m afraid AoE poison fields will be more solid in the end!

In the end I still think the build will work, and I’m going to make a roaming video with it is athe very first ting, but I’m afraid my Condition Grenadir build will overpower it, unless they buff the bomb kit some what! =/
Even while I like the Grenade kit, I don’t like how they somehow manage to make it the best kit for everything, leaving the rest in the dust.

But overall, I’m very disapointed in the way Anet is gonna fix Confusion, because while I do agree it’s to strong, I don’t agree it’s because of the damage output.

he flaw with confusion at the moment is it trigger from a lot of things it should trigger from, the biggest being: Traits that activate a skill, Trait that gives on dodge effects and weapon/kit/attunment swapping.

An example would be me fighting my clone, 5 stacks confusion is about 3k damage on a skill use, let’s say I get hit by that, I then make an attack, because I was a bit to slow to notice (Happens), I take 3k damage then, which sent me below 75% health, where hidden flask now trigger and I take 3k damage more, I of cause panic, because I just took 6k damage in about 1 sec, and the enemy is about to hit me with blowtorch, so I dodge, which neat me a 3k hit more, doing about 2-3 seconds I took 9k damage, from using one skill. See, that’s the problem.

If It had been me I had first removed confusion from dealing damage on such things, then tested it for 1-2 months to see if we needed to lower the damage a bit more and THEN I would maybe lower the damage of confusion. But I’m quite sure confusion would be perfect if it only was on skill ACTICATION! I just feel bad for the condtion mesmers, because we at least got other condition builds, they don’t! =/

End of a long rant that turned longer then I expected hehe

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Posted by: vinceftw.5086

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I totally agree with your solution. You fix would also make confusion hit equally as hard on anyone. Some classes get hurt a lot more by confusion. Just like your engineer, an elementalist, …

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