Kit weapon strength.

Kit weapon strength.

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Posted by: Casia.4281

Casia.4281

Thought I would revisit this.

Prepatch I made some rough estimates for kit weapon str.
Determined that kit scaling is working with quality. all tiers showed clear upgrades in damage with base weapon quality.

I made rough estimates for exotic to be around 975 average, with ascended to be 1013-1017..
these values were tested in southshore with breeze riders. there was some room for error with npcs, poor use of wrench.. due to vul, and sample size.

Finding other documentation on this seems impossible. no wiki, nothing in game, etc.

today Dnt updated their dps guides.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3bi69t/dnt_updated_build_guides_for_all_8_professions/
Lots of errors in Brazils engi spreadsheet.. .but I do notice he has 1000 weapon str marked for kit.
Can’t make 100% accurate balance or damage estimates if I do not know the exact weapon strength of kits. I wanted the exact damage range, not just a rough average.

So I went back to Silverwastes and attacked some dummies.

Process. remove all traits. and gear providing damage boosts. I’ used my sinister/hybrid cond gear. balth runes. only sigil of corruption.
Auto attacked the dummies over and over. sample size… large.

Up first was ascended rifle. .650 hip shot is known. 1035-1150 weapon str known. 1745 power. known.
549 min to 670 max hit.

Dummy armor projected at 2138.3-2141. (I came up with 2137 on dummys last week.)

Elixir gun. .4 coef. 1745 power. est armor 2140.
300-331
919.7-1015… ave 967.5. what? that is noticeably lower then expected..

Flame thrower. .225 coef per hit. 1745 power. ext armor 2140.
169-186.
921-1014.. average 963..

ascended Pistol.
.350 coef frag shot. 920-1080 weapon str. 1579 power.
237-278.
Est armor: 2145-2147. bit higher est here. has no real effect on outcome. 2140 or 2145.
2140 armor gives 963 ave flamethower, 2145 gives 967 ave.

exotic pistol.
.350 coeff. 876-1029 weapon str. 1729power. (note the higher power)
247-290 est armor. 2146-2147.

Exotic EG.
.4 coef. 1729power, 2145 est armor.
283-313 dealt.
Est weapon str. 878-970.7 924 ave dps.

(edited by Casia.4281)

Kit weapon strength.

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Posted by: Casia.4281

Casia.4281

so, currently not sure what is up.

what does seem to be the case is, Ascended kit weapon strength is 920-1015 for 967.5 average dps.
people might be using the wrong value in dps calcs. Was this the case prior to the last patch? I am not sure. note, this value is lower then pistol, or rifle. (of course, that used to be true back in the day too…) I estimated much higher values prepatch. DNT uses 1000 weapon str it seems. were we both wrong?

Exotic kit weapon str seems to be 878-971. with 924 average. (old old value in vanilla was 921 average, with 923 as tooltip value.)