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Posted by: Pyriel.4370

Pyriel.4370

Helloooo

I’ve noticed something that really confuses me about pvping as a guard bunker.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not bad at it at all, it just confuses me when a necro deathly claw can hit me for 3.5 – 4.9 k as a bunker with cleric amulet and soldier runes…surely for something spammable, that is a bit much? I know it’s an elite form but I do not notice any other elite spells being able to deal out that much damage, and hit multiple targets.

Strangely I don’t have the same problems with thieves.

Just wondering if this is normal for a guard bunker to expect as I never had that before :S

If so, fair enough.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

toughness is overrated, you can be hit by 6k backstabs and 4k hs and even autoattack for 4k. its broken. use zerker gear.

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

Lich form is still not properly balanced, is why.

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Posted by: Kraljevo.2801

Kraljevo.2801

Lich form is still not properly balanced, is why.

This.

Lich form is what every elite should be, a strong elite skill. However, they’ve put too way too much into skill #1 and #5, encouraging spammy gameplay.

- #1 hits like a train and can oneshot a thief (6-7k crit + 3k chill of death proc + air/fire sigils)
- #2 is useless, waste of casting time
- #3 is rarely used, mainly for preventing stomps
- #4 useless as well, minions die fast
- #5 amazing in team fights

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Lich Form is just good, it hits like a truck (it was stronger before lol). If a Necro goes into Lich, they should always be the first target, if the whole team focuses on them it’s not really a big deal.

If it’s a 1v1 or 2v2 it’s a bit more of a problem. It’s best to have some type of block and invulnerability ready (Shelter and Renewed Focus), also having protection up helps a lot. If someone can strip the Lich’s stab, that’s also a great help.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

Lich form is still not properly balanced, is why.

This.

Lich form is what every elite should be, a strong elite skill. However, they’ve put too way too much into skill #1 and #5, encouraging spammy gameplay.

- #1 hits like a train and can oneshot a thief (6-7k crit + 3k chill of death proc + air/fire sigils)
- #2 is useless, waste of casting time
- #3 is rarely used, mainly for preventing stomps
- #4 useless as well, minions die fast
- #5 amazing in team fights

focusing on the concept of elites, they are supposed to be game changers. gw1 was better in this way. in gw2, meh

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Posted by: Pyriel.4370

Pyriel.4370

toughness is overrated, you can be hit by 6k backstabs and 4k hs and even autoattack for 4k. its broken. use zerker gear.

Guardian bunker in zerker gear? You know its Pvp right?

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Posted by: Pyriel.4370

Pyriel.4370

Thanks for the answers guys n gals btw good to know I am not the only one.

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

Lich form is still not properly balanced, is why.

This.

Lich form is what every elite should be, a strong elite skill. However, they’ve put too way too much into skill #1 and #5, encouraging spammy gameplay.

- #1 hits like a train and can oneshot a thief (6-7k crit + 3k chill of death proc + air/fire sigils)
- #2 is useless, waste of casting time
- #3 is rarely used, mainly for preventing stomps
- #4 useless as well, minions die fast
- #5 amazing in team fights

I’m fine with it being a game changer. It just needs to have a weaker autoattack and stronger secondary abilities. A ranged, non-projectile autoattack that can deal upwards of 7k when paired with sigils is just stupid. It’s gotten to the point where I just run mesmer and moa every lich form kitten I see.

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Posted by: Booms.2594

Booms.2594

Lich form is still not properly balanced, is why.

This.

Lich form is what every elite should be, a strong elite skill. However, they’ve put too way too much into skill #1 and #5, encouraging spammy gameplay.

- #1 hits like a train and can oneshot a thief (6-7k crit + 3k chill of death proc + air/fire sigils)
- #2 is useless, waste of casting time
- #3 is rarely used, mainly for preventing stomps
- #4 useless as well, minions die fast
- #5 amazing in team fights

I’m fine with it being a game changer. It just needs to have a weaker autoattack and stronger secondary abilities. A ranged, non-projectile autoattack that can deal upwards of 7k when paired with sigils is just stupid. It’s gotten to the point where I just run mesmer and moa every lich form kitten I see.

except it is a projectile

gerdian

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Posted by: Shadelang.3012

Shadelang.3012

Lich claws are defenitely strong but quite easily countered. They move slowly. They can be blocked,reflected,dodged,blinded, and even are fairly perfectly negated by a weakness application.

Lich however is very good at nuking bunkers. Its kinda what its designed for. But a well played medi guard who knows how to time his blocks nad blinds will walk all over a lich any day of the weak. A lich does a decent job of countering a bunker guard in a team fight as the bunker guard cant “soak” that kind of attack. My best advice is to bring something to act as counterplay to it. WOR is perfect for the job.

Most damage builds in the game can negate lich forms effectiveness through negating each individual attack one by one. As a bunker guard though you cant do it as well. Making in a sense that lich the counterplay to you. Where as the aforementioned medi guard is the counter to it.

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

Lich form is still not properly balanced, is why.

This.

Lich form is what every elite should be, a strong elite skill. However, they’ve put too way too much into skill #1 and #5, encouraging spammy gameplay.

- #1 hits like a train and can oneshot a thief (6-7k crit + 3k chill of death proc + air/fire sigils)
- #2 is useless, waste of casting time
- #3 is rarely used, mainly for preventing stomps
- #4 useless as well, minions die fast
- #5 amazing in team fights

I’m fine with it being a game changer. It just needs to have a weaker autoattack and stronger secondary abilities. A ranged, non-projectile autoattack that can deal upwards of 7k when paired with sigils is just stupid. It’s gotten to the point where I just run mesmer and moa every lich form kitten I see.

except it is a projectile

Is it? Maybe I can just never see it because people only use it to jump me from behind while I’m in a real fight. :S