Not many changes to the Guardian
I’d only agree that Guardians being in a good spot when we’re talking about bunkering. Literally any other spec is completely underwhelming. When you lack soft-cc, mobility, condition application and reliable burst damage while having low-tier health, it becomes an issue.
When looking at Guardian’s, outside of Vigorous precision(which is getting nerfed), we literally have no decent passive procs. There’s nothing to rely upon in your traits to give you any passive benefit. Now I personally despise these kinds of traits but it looks like we’re just going to add more. I honestly believe it’s time to update the Virtues to apply such boons since they’re still very weak.
Change shattered aegis to 3 stacks of bleed, give radiance torment on crit, keep burning, add in sigils OMG CONDITION SPEC. Too bad apparently that is just too hard to do.
Now you’re just being silly Bash.
Take your reasonable, well thought out and balanced suggests to ESO. Anet isn’t listening… we’re the “Minority”.
Funny thing is, being the top 2% is the minority and who doesn’t listen to the top 2%?
Oh wait… Anet.
Won’t be playing ESO though And hey, I have only thrown the Idea out there like… at least 20 times. I am sure maybe 80 more will finally get something to happen!
[Rev]
What do people think about Radiant Retaliation?
Power has 916 base attribute. Is the retaliation scale going to base 0 Condition Damage as if it was 916? If it’s not it seems kinda lame.
This is a horrible trait.
Power can reach in the upwards of 4k
while condition damage can barely breach 2k.
Power is still the best option for retaliation.
These changes seem really pitiful….
I might try a condition spec with Amplified Wrath and that’s about it.
the changes are good changes,
at least guards don’t get a sigil on grandmaster trait….
When it comes to pvp/wvwvw the reality is that guardian is one of the classes with the lowest amount of build variety. You can do decently as a medit dps guardian but that only really works either against bad players, or when you’re lucky in the “paper rock scissor” draw (I found it strong against pw thieves), the truth is, dps guardian is like a subpar pw thief in terms of the role it occupies, it’s almost as glassy (it doesn’t do well in team fights / when surrounded by lots of aoe), but doesn’t have the same mobility on the map nor can it disengage at will from a fight that is perceived as lost. While the thief can flee when things turn sour, guardian has to die. As soon as anything turns into a 1vs2 against equally competent players you will die, you just can’t disengage from a fight the way a thief or warrior would do. The ranged options are also rather lacking.
Guardian is mostly viable as a bunker and not much else. Most classes have access to good condition builds (warrior, engineer, necromancer, mesmer, ranger, all have decent condition builds) but guardian for some god forsaken reason is not supposed to have access to conditions. Guardian as a dps is very glassy but doesn’t have the mobility of a war and thief to justify it.
Giving guardian traits that have to do with either condi damage or burn is ridiculous when the class doesn’t even have a good condi based weapon set and utilities! what are those traits supposed to do without the required framework to stand on.
As good as bunker guardians are in their role, I don’t really feel it fair for a class to be pigeonholed that much into one, singular, and also, the most boring role in this game.
(edited by Nikaido.3457)
So far none of the news is good and I weep for future guardians. We wont survive nearly as much as the dps classes. Not that we survived before. -.-
Won’t be playing ESO though And hey, I have only thrown the Idea out there like… at least 20 times. I am sure maybe 80 more will finally get something to happen!
Misplaced Optimism, must like that of our hope they revitalize the guardian from it’s stale state.
lol – we’ll never learn, cuz we care.
the changes are good changes,
at least guards don’t get a sigil on grandmaster trait….
The guardian traits won’t be used. So I don’t see how they’re good.
I love how instead of anet weeding through the small amount of suggestions that the guardian forums have come up with they hide behind the stereotype ‘forums are just ragers and people looking for OP buffs to their class’ and write us off.
After this crap we’ve been spoon fed this is about the only thing I can say about the game anymore:
This has been the biggest charlie foxtrot train wreck I’ve ever seen. From the first beta weekend this game has been going down hill, and it really started going faster down hill at this patch: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-June-25th-2013/first#post2339673
I really don’t see how they can honestly say with a straight face that Guardian is in a ‘good place’ right now. They only exist in zergs and nearly everywhere else they are sub-par to complete trash.
inb4 the white knights show up