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Posted by: mrauls.6519

mrauls.6519

Can you also post one without food?

Thank you!

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Posted by: Oatmeal.1895

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Thank you for the input, I was running koda armor (soldiers), my hp/touchness wasn’t too bad, but my crit chance was crud, and my traits were lacking. My weapons were spot on as well except for the sigils and I need to change my jewelry/upgrades. I need to work on ascended gear too! Going to give this a shot and run some dungeons this eveniing.

Thanks again!!

Edit: Screenie is prior to changing gear up, still working on that, just giving a comparison!

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Yup no problem. That’s why I made this guide, to help people.

@mrauls

The only thing that changes with no food or oil is; crit chance goes to 30% and crit dmg is 74. Other then that it’s all the same.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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hmm not much has changed. My guard only has one ascend piece right now, working on getting more. Most of them went to my warrior lol.

But this is what I typical run as of now.

I see you’ve brought up your armor to 3k again, while still keeping 3k attack, +40% crit rate, +80 crit damage, and nearly 18k hp! I don’t see how you did it! No matter what I do, I can’t get the same numbers.

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Posted by: niedawow.6725

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hmm not much has changed. My guard only has one ascend piece right now, working on getting more. Most of them went to my warrior lol.

But this is what I typical run as of now.

I see you’ve brought up your armor to 3k again, while still keeping 3k attack, +40% crit rate, +80 crit damage, and nearly 18k hp! I don’t see how you did it!

RESPECT!

I was thinking exactly the same. I can bring up the offensive stats to your level, but how do you manage to push your HP that high? Could you please post your updated gear? Thanks

P.S. I dont use Divinity runes, way too expensive for me. I use 6x Ruby orbs, so yeah .. some stats may deviate.

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Posted by: Beverly Hilll Ninja.8495

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First off I want to say that am jealous you are running around with two legendary weapons. Second I love you build.

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Posted by: AjoraOaks.3659

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I still prefer the more damage focused build with soldier runes, can easily build up sigil of accuracy stacks and swap to a weapon with a normal sigil after, used truffle ravioli/master’s maint oil but no accuracy stacks on. Prefer maining hammer obviously, I could see the benefits of going as high in vit/toughness as the build suggests in wvw since zergs can be pretty aggressive with culling surprise attacks now though.

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Posted by: niedawow.6725

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I would love if you guys take the time to post your exact gear, not just the stats, so the rest of us could min/max to our needs. I am one laurel short of picking an amulet and I am still unsure which one to get.

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Posted by: xtian.7689

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Your Build Brought Me Here Thanks Harbringer
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Posted by: Oatmeal.1895

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I just want to say thanks again for posting this, after giving it a shot and changing my armor around I can say that this build is much, much better for me in my dungeon setting for me and my group. My only concern is that I cannot get close on my crit chance/crit damage to you. I also do not have any ascended gear. Might that be it? I will post a screenie later in the day of each of my gear stats in case I messed up a upgrade slot somewhere.

Again, thank you!

Edit: Attached updated screenshot with gears/stats, probably using wrong jewelry somewhere or ruby? Thanks for the input again!

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Posted by: Mustachious.9652

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I would love if you guys take the time to post your exact gear, not just the stats, so the rest of us could min/max to our needs. I am one laurel short of picking an amulet and I am still unsure which one to get.

I, too, have been wondering this. I have had enough laurels for several days, but have held off on buying anything until I did some looking into. I just can’t seem to make up my mind. Let me know what you choose and why just in case that can help me with my decision.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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Made two slight changes to the build. One being a trait and the other an utility. This is probably more of a personal preference thing, but I’ll share it anyways.

Switched out Empowering Might for Writ of Exaltation. This increases your symbol size around ~50%. You get a lot of benefits from symbols, and tbh the standard size is too small. Unless people are stacked right on top of you, which rarely happens. So bigger is always better.

Switched out Save Yourselves for Contemplation of Purity. I’ve been playing a lot of pvp lately, and there has been times where I just get destroyed by condition builds. The old build did a decent job of removing conditions, but there are times where I still got overwhelmed by them. This fixes that flaw. The great part about this is if you run x6 runes of Lyssa. You now have two Contemplation of Purity. One on a 60 second CD and the other 90.

Probably going to switch out Divinity for Lyssa later today. This combo is just too good.

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Posted by: Amins.3710

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As people begin to truely understand the game, they begin to realize it’s not one based on stats but rather utility.

Lyssa > Divinity in all aspects.

Condition Removal + Staying Pwr > Huge Burst.

Dont’ get me wrong, there is a place for it all, so long as the people with whom you run with expect little support and want the dps + CC (and better staying pwr than the warrior).

Stat’s are important, but dont’ get hung up on them.

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Posted by: Bash.7291

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Im sitting here really confused on how your crit damage is as high as it is. 30 from valor, 12 from runes, 18 from jewels only comes to 60% even with food and weapons you would still only be at 79% am i missing something?

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Posted by: Zach.9687

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Im sitting here really confused on how your crit damage is as high as it is. 30 from valor, 12 from runes, 18 from jewels only comes to 60% even with food and weapons you would still only be at 79% am i missing something?

Back piece, possibly. I believe his gear has changed from his original post (might want to update, if it has).

I am more interested in how he kept his armor at 3k.

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I love how you found out about Contemplation of Purity! This skill is awesome, been using it for a while, even with a shout build it does wonders.

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Posted by: Sythus.2396

Sythus.2396

I’ve been using Save Yourselves for quite some time now as well, but you made me think twice about changing it to Contemplation of Purity hahah. Cheers for the guide, was really helpful!

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Posted by: akamon.2769

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whole heartedly agree with Amins. i’ve started to min/max stats and getting them where i want to be.. but trying to not get hung up on them. once you step on the field, stats will only do so much for you. if you can find a way to use certain rune bonus effects or utilities / combos effectively, focus on that instead.

regardless though, great stuff and always, thanks for the share. interested to see your new setup after switching to Lyssa runes. ; ))

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Posted by: Shimond.2478

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One thing I’ve noticed with crit damage is it doesn’t seem to scale down well at all. It’s almost as if the 3rd stat on your gear (in this case being crit damage) gets stripped if you get downlevelled below when it shows up (60+?). For example at 80 I have close to 70% crit damage however in AC I have like 19%.

Makes me wonder if regular dungeon runners should be gearing completely different from level 80 (WvW/fractal) folks.

As far as this thread and build goes – I absolutely love it. Got me playing my guardian again regularly.

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Posted by: SiNoS.2147

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One thing I’ve noticed with crit damage is it doesn’t seem to scale down well at all. It’s almost as if the 3rd stat on your gear (in this case being crit damage) gets stripped if you get downlevelled below when it shows up (60+?). For example at 80 I have close to 70% crit damage however in AC I have like 19%.

Makes me wonder if regular dungeon runners should be gearing completely different from level 80 (WvW/fractal) folks.

As far as this thread and build goes – I absolutely love it. Got me playing my guardian again regularly.

From my own experience in dungeon’s it still makes a difference to gear for crit damage.

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Posted by: Damncrit.8716

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Hey harbringer, this is a truly amazing build but i’m hitting the point where i am going to equip my ascended gear, wich jewellry do you recommend please with exact names, and do i have to revamp the whole gear because of this ? Please help me ouy

Thanks in advance,
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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Since they fixed Pure of Voice, I went back to Save Yourselves. This fix is a major buff to this build. Even more effective now.

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Posted by: Damncrit.8716

Damncrit.8716

Hey harbringer, this is a truly amazing build but i’m hitting the point where i am going to equip my ascended gear, wich jewellry do you recommend please with exact names, and do i have to revamp the whole gear because of this ? Please help me ouy

Thanks in advance,
Damncrit

Harbinger can you post a picture of what your setup looks like as of now, and what ascended jewellry you are getting or already have ? i tried to contact you in-game but i couldn’t seem to pm or mail you, sorry if this is a pain or anything i don’t mean to be a problem,

By the way guys if any of you could recommend me any jewellry with this build that would work well i would consider using that, i really have no idea and dont like to spend 25 days + a monthly on something that isn’t that good for my build and i like this one i edited it a bit but it’s working out great so far.

Again, thanks in advance,
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Posted by: ArtemisEntreri.4138

ArtemisEntreri.4138

Hey Harbringer,

Been tweaking the build to try and increase consistent output damage by raising crit and lowering crit damage to be on par with my glass cannon crit hit build.

I reference this chart : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Critical_hit

My old build had 40% crit with 100% crit damage which hit the 1.600 mark. At 48 crit and72 crit dmg I am getting same consistency on damage output but increasing my armor and about the same health.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3|1.1g.h17|6.1k.h4|1n.7x.1c.7x.1n.7x.1c.7x.1n.7x.1c.7x|1g.67.1c.67.1c.67.1n.67.1n.67.8c.67|0.5.u56b.u29b.5|39.7|e

Any suggestions on how to keep damage output high and tweak my crit and crit dmg?

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Posted by: SiNoS.2147

SiNoS.2147

Hey Harbringer,

Been tweaking the build to try and increase consistent output damage by raising crit and lowering crit damage to be on par with my glass cannon crit hit build.

I reference this chart : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Critical_hit

My old build had 40% crit with 100% crit damage which hit the 1.600 mark. At 48 crit and72 crit dmg I am getting same consistency on damage output but increasing my armor and about the same health.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3|1.1g.h17|6.1k.h4|1n.7x.1c.7x.1n.7x.1c.7x.1n.7x.1c.7x|1g.67.1c.67.1c.67.1n.67.1n.67.8c.67|0.5.u56b.u29b.5|39.7|e

Any suggestions on how to keep damage output high and tweak my crit and crit dmg?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3|2.1g.h1f|9.1c.h1f.d.1c.h1c|1p.7m.1p.7m.1n.7m.1p.7m.1n.7m.1p.7m|1i.67.1n.67.1n.67.1g.67.1g.67.1i.67|0.5.u46b.u29b.5|39.7|e

Thats what i was able to come up with. You lose a little over 1k hp but pick up a bit more crit and a good deal more crit damage.

Edit: Also ignore the sigil’s and runes as i just modified a setup i have been working on as it seemed to be what you were looking for.

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Posted by: Blazin Blunt.6908

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@ Artemis, loving your total health!

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Posted by: Basil Sammour.3064

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hey, i was wondering are you still using the same exact build, or did u make any modifications please?
thnx alot
epic build btw !!

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Posted by: ArtemisEntreri.4138

ArtemisEntreri.4138

@ Artemis, loving your total health!

And I always wish I had more lol…

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Posted by: Darx.9842

Darx.9842

I’ve been running this exact build for about 4 months. Gear ratios are nearly identical too.

Only difference is I’m using soldier runes to replace Pure of Voice and instead I’m using 2H mastery. I feel it’s much more effective. Shorter cooldowns on binding blade and leap of faith are invaluable in wvw where movement and gap closing is so important.

I’ve also started playing with bigger symbols, but, giving up one of the other traits is really tough.

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Posted by: Wanderer.6251

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Could you tell what ascendenc jewelry mix should i use for this build.

Thx in advance.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

hmmm I haven’t played my Guard in a bit. Too busy with Necro. So I really don’t have that much ascend.

But you want to mix Cavalier with Berserker. Works good since Berserker also has Vitality now.

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Posted by: BandAid.9720

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Man 80critical dmg id ompressive!!!! For sure ill try it.
Fo you think this builf would work with shield/sword? and gs?

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

You can use any weapon combination you want. I just prefer gs/hammer for the CC and dps output.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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Well, it’s been awhile. I’ve started to play my Guard again. So I’ll just keep u guys updated on the progress. I’m pretty much maxed out right now with just exotics. Be running a lot of fotm for the next couple of days so you can see the final project.

Current stats; Also doesn’t show the 5% accuracy from my sigil.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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Those are some nice solid stats Harb! Seeing that makes me miss my old trait spec and build.

Changed out that now-useless-Rage sigil eh? Are you still running with Divinity runes as well?

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Ya, Rage is pretty much useless now since quickness nerf. So I switched it out with Sigil of Accuracy, since that’s the biggest problem with this build.

Also went back to Divinity because it’s the only way to achieve what I’m going for.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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Yeah, I know there’s a lot of naysayers on Div, but really, the runes are nice. Overpriced, but still nice if you are trying to reach a full stat potential. Also, Div runes give a benefit all the time where as the other runes give benefits based on percent chances, CDs, etc, etc.

IMO, they need to buff Rage Sigil duration now since they nerfed it to uselessness.

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Posted by: mrauls.6519

mrauls.6519

Well, it’s been awhile. I’ve started to play my Guard again. So I’ll just keep u guys updated on the progress. I’m pretty much maxed out right now with just exotics. Be running a lot of fotm for the next couple of days so you can see the final project.

Current stats; Also doesn’t show the 5% accuracy from my sigil.

Can you tell me what your gear set-up is now? Please

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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I’m waiting until the final build, then I’ll be glad to share it with everyone.

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Posted by: mrauls.6519

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Good luck man! I’ve been using your character as a reference since your first post in the Post Your Stats! thread

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Posted by: Zach.9687

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Well, it’s been awhile. I’ve started to play my Guard again. So I’ll just keep u guys updated on the progress. I’m pretty much maxed out right now with just exotics. Be running a lot of fotm for the next couple of days so you can see the final project.

Current stats; Also doesn’t show the 5% accuracy from my sigil.

Can you tell me what your gear set-up is now? Please

tried to see If I could come up with it…I was not able to at this time, but came close. Took a guess on food/oil

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.0|1.1c.0|0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1c.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|1c.61.1g.61.1g.61.1n.61.1n.61.2s.0|0.5.u46b.u280.5|39.7|0.0.0.0.0|e

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

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Is the build listed in the OP still the actual build you’re using? Or has it been changed since you released?

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Well, this is two months old. Gear and everything has been through a lot of changes. I was just going to wait until I got full Ascended, and everything where I wanted it then post.

But if enough people want me too, I can do my current gear set up.

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

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Please do, I’m really looking to update my own build, same traits but different setup and gear. Insofar as you would be willing to do so you can plot everything in at http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ if you didn’t know of it by now, would be much appreciated if you would

How do you find the healing from AH compared to meditation healing? Or do the shouts make up for the lesser healing?
Btw awesome play skills

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Ok, heres what I run most of the time. Great survivability and dmg.

Helm- Knight
Shoulders- Berserker
Chest- Valkyrie
Gauntlets- Berserker
Leggings- Knight
Boots- Soldier

x6 of Runes of Divinity

Greatsword (Soldier w/Sigil of Perception)
Hammer (Berserker w/Sigil of Nullification)

Backpiece- Cavalier (Ascended)
Earrings- Knight w/Exquisite Ruby Jewel
Rings- Soldier w/Exquisite Ruby Jewel and Cavalier (Ascended)
Amulet- Knight w/Exquisite Ruby Jewel

Food:
Bowl of Curry Butternut Squash
Master Maintenance Oil

Here’s stats unbuffed:

With buffs your crit chance is 43% with 86 crit dmg. Add in 25 stacks and you get around 55% crit chance. All this will be higher on the hammer.

As for the whole AH vs Med, they’re both good. In general Med is better for solo play and AH group. That being said, you can still do great with AH solo and vise versa.

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

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Is the build still this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQBgiIXgtAsHYUjd86hDpIDB ?
With Writ of exaltation instead of empowering might?

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Yes, it’s still 0/5/30/30/5. Only thing that changes is the Master trait in Honor. Just really depends on how I feel like playing, but I’ll swap it out for:

Writ of Exaltation
Empowering Might
Two-Handed Mastery

This really depends on your playstyle and what you like best. Like I said, I’ll swap them constantly. I’ll make a decision before the fight/scenario, and swap to the one that’s going to help me the most.

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Posted by: Neish.7853

Neish.7853

Did u already change gear with ascended?

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Getting there. All I need is an earring for full set.

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Posted by: SilkySmooth.1574

SilkySmooth.1574

got pretty similar stats,

getting +70 armor when im in combat from my traits.
also i got sigil of perception on my weapons, 49% crit chance with 25 stacks

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Posted by: mrauls.6519

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Getting there. All I need is an earring for full set.

I’m looking forward to your next screenshot

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