Guild Wars 2

Hey guys,

I’m looking for comparisons of these two shouts. I play using full berserker and 0/1/6/6/1. Retreat has a lower cd (more chances to remove conditions), a great uptime on swiftness (i use pack runes), but lacks the short lasting boons SY gives.

Thoughts?

i prefer SY

vigor, fury, prot = yes pls

also gives swiftness although not as much

Link your build it will give people a better idea of what would benefit you more be sure to include how you normally run roaming five-man 10Man plus. All of these are important to which one of these shouts may serve you better.

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Since your not using soldiers, UC, or Pure of Heart and in addition are using the greatsword which can take advantage of SYs length and you already have pack for swiftness. I would say SY is your clear cut winner. Personally, I’d take CoP over either of them and even switch to a 0-0-2-6-6 but if I did that I’d take retreat… if that makes any sense.

I’m new to guard so take my opinion with a pinch of salt.

Retreat is more suitable for small groups, the aegis won’t be a huge benefit in zergs, and there’s already plenty of swiftness to go around, but in small roaming groups it can be really good.

Save yourselves is one of my favorite shouts when used at the right situation, durations might seem low, but you forget the crucial fact that some of these boons are not easy to get with such durations, such as protection and fury and retaliation, but if you run this this in zergs you better have some good condi removal or else you may get pinned down in a bad spot by a transfered chill/cripple/immobilize and get ganged on, but either way, this shout is great for small and large groups.

For PvE I would drop your points from Valor and go for a 2/5/0/6/1 build.

The extra 20% damage will do wonders for you and you still should have enough survivability to survive unless you make a really major mistake.

PvE dungeon : Retreat is far superior. Fury should come from other profession and most of the other boons aren’t really that useful with the short duration/long cooldown. Retreat on the other end is one of the most powerful skill to protect your team. You shouldn’t base you choice on swiftness for that.

PvE Open world : SY become a better choice since you usually can’t count on other ppl to provide boons and swiftness become more important. Both are good, it depend on what you prefer.

PvP : SY will help you more since it will help you to burst a target down. Fight in PvP are a lot of small attack so retreat isn’t as powerful as in PvE where you receive small amount of big hits.