Guild Wars 2

I have taken a 5 month hiatus from GW2 because Guardians were NOT “in a good place.” Started playing again 1 week ago and nothing got better…

Half of guardians weapons are unviable (mace, scepter, sword, torch, shield, staff)
Half of guardians entire skills are unviable (signets, spirit weps, consecrations)
Half the trait lines are unviable (radiance, zeal, honor)
The traits that are… make no sense (virtues, valor)
Worse healing than druid/tempest
Worse support than chrono/rev/tempest/druid
Worse damage than… anyone
Worse survivability than Revenant/Chrono
No viable condi output
CC abilities on high CD’s
Mobility of a snail

I get kicked from all the raid groups I join (because I am guardian)
Talked-down in dungeons by pug coz they have to “carry” me (because I am guardian)

After 5 months I would have expected at least some of those problems to be fixed. At this moment in time I am considering leaving this game for another 5 months but I heard there will be an update in 1 week. So have Anet said anything about buffing/reworking guardian at all?

It’s really not much, and they were super vague, but they said they’d buff the mace.

I’m expecting “healing on the final strike of mace #1 increased by 10%” or some crap like that.

Adam Of Awesome.7802:

Talked-down in dungeons by pug coz they have to “carry” me (because I am guardian)

Are you sure you’re not making that bit up? I mean with Dragonhunter they became far more viable in dungeons due to their increased burst abilities and the nerfing on dungeon foes’ health.
I try pug dungeons most days (slim pickings nowadays) and have never had a problem when I’ve rolled a Guardian.

At least we are heavy class so we have pretty awesome looking armors

I often get invited to pugs because I look so freaking awesome. I just stand in the back (cause I cant help in the front lines) and help the group by making them feel better because my presence elevates their fashion sense. Im like a bard, that just looks awesome and cant play an instrument, or sing. that’s it! new guardian elite FASHION BARD!!!

the big problem is that we have seen what other classes are capable of, and how each trait line is thought out. The Guardian IS convoluted. each trait line doesn’t really scream “pick me for this kind of play style” like revinant or necro is designed. there is no direction, no synergy. (other than medi build).

Hopefully in the next pass, they will approach each trait line with a concept of HOW the guardian plays.

zeal should focus on damage and how you deal it. directly via weapons, indirectly via counters (retaliation, aegis) or vicariously, via others (supplying buffs to others to deal damage, or via spirit weapons.)

radiance should focus on engagement and conditions, focusing on burning, enhancing burning, adding conditions like cripple, slow and chill to be used as gap closer or to keep foes in range of symbols. or to grant movement buffs and a passive speed boost

valor is your defensive area do you want to dodge, mitigate, block? all located here

honor is support, heals, buffs, boons, how do you want to keep alive, selfishly? selflessly? pick a line

virtues, how to change your play mechanic. key here is change.

Fashion Mage.3712:

It’s really not much, and they were super vague, but they said they’d buff the mace.

I’m expecting “healing on the final strike of mace #1 increased by 10%” or some crap like that.

Link?

Adam Of Awesome.7802:

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Your anecdotes are uninspiring and your claims are false.

Are we even playing the same game?? Guardian are S tier atm, they are up there with thieves, druids and scrappers.

mrauls.6519:

Fashion Mage.3712:

It’s really not much, and they were super vague, but they said they’d buff the mace.

I’m expecting “healing on the final strike of mace #1 increased by 10%” or some crap like that.

Link?

I think Mage is refering to this thread.

Thread

>_> dunmo why cant link directly… it is in page 4 the only with a Anet mark, next link at least works for the page 4….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian?page=4

Guardians aren’t as terrible as raid pugs make them out to be. In fact, most groups would benefit a lot by taking it, but as is always with pugs… they’re not exactly smart in any way.

It’s true tho that it hinders more high dps strategies such as no updraft gors, 3 shrooms sloth, 1 stack spot xera. It’s not impossible ofc, but your teammates would have to pick up your slack. But generally you don’t see those in pugs anyway.

Btw, 2 of the traitlines you picked as “unviable” you use in raids and the 2 traitlines you picked that apparently are viable you don’t use. Maybe there’s another reason for so many kicks?

Worse dmg than anyone is also not true, DH is basically smack in the middle DPS-wise. CC for PvE builds is also very decent. It’s true that these have a decently long CD but that’s never rly an issue as you have quite a lot of it.

I quit over a year ago, but I browse the forums to see if I want to come back. So far, I don’t want to come back but I really like the game? [insert confused face].

Oh an lawl at warrior poster and cries for nerfs, look at his post history. keep on strong “fourpuppies”.

Aeolus.3615:

mrauls.6519:

Fashion Mage.3712:

It’s really not much, and they were super vague, but they said they’d buff the mace.

I’m expecting “healing on the final strike of mace #1 increased by 10%” or some crap like that.

Link?

I think Mage is refering to this thread.

Thread

>_> dunmo why cant link directly… it is in page 4 the only with a Anet mark, next link at least works for the page 4….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian?page=4

Aka “we’ll put it on the table, the very large table.”