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Posted by: Kuya.6495

Kuya.6495

Guardian is my main. It’s just that i actually multi class and actually care about balance as opposed to senselessly asking for stuff to be added to my main without regard for the rest of the game.

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Posted by: RabbitUp.8294

RabbitUp.8294

scourge barrier, 10k perma barrier haha. Firebrand tomes would melt. FB is worst spec on 90 sec cd.

What are you even complaining about here?

I am complaining cause barrier should be guardian spec thing also, weaver got it why shouldn’t we?
Scourge is clearly better for support (you can see that in the video).

If you want barriers make a scourge.

What i don’t understand is why you’re acting as if anet killed your puppy by not giving firebrand something they never promised you.

It’s another mechanic added to the game that’s thematic to guardian and is given to other classes only. It’s tradition at this point.

Still, it’s not about barrier in particular, Anet gave firebrand absolute nothing unique. The closest thing to unique utility we have is the useless +300 toughness buff on Tome of Courage.

But we spent the whole HoT 2-year period being a worse Tempest, guardian being the interior version of other classes is nothing new.

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

Fashion Mage.3712

It’s another mechanic added to the game that’s thematic to guardian and is given to other classes only. It’s tradition at this point.

Guardians guarding? You’re nuts, that’s crazy. Obviously we should only get dps specs.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

It’s another mechanic added to the game that’s thematic to guardian and is given to other classes only. It’s tradition at this point.

Guardians guarding? You’re nuts, that’s crazy. Obviously we should only get dps specs.

Even aegis become obsolete with all those unblockables and Firebrand get 5 sec of protection on f3 tome only. There should be way more protection on them especially on elite tome and maybe healing tome. FB must survive as melee condi/support dealer but without any proper defense it fails at job that he must be good at.

If they wont change tomes than they need to buff mantras and axe:

Axe symbol should pulse might or maybe quickness and instead of bleeding it should have torment.
heal and elite mantra should give protection for 3 sec and 5 sec final.
Mantra of potence should also give swiftness for 5 sec and 8 sec final.
Mantra of truth should give chill or slow.

Traits need rework especially grandmaster which 2/3 are awful.
Up line need all traits rework cause they are worst of their tiers.

But I am not expecting much cause guardians are in a good spot.

(edited by Ragnarox.9601)

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Posted by: Brutaly.6257

Brutaly.6257

Adding a x distance 3*blink to mantras would solve so many innate guardian issues (mobility) and issues in FB (survivability) and it would also make the FB 100% more fun to play. Make the blink distance be determined by the number of mantras equipped. Why not 10per mantra. Making it max 500*3 distance.

Imagine repositioning while supporting.

If they at the same time made the elite mantra reset and recharge all mantras Renewed Focus would have a serious competitor as the elite to use.

If they did this i could actually live with a 300 cone on mantras because i had means to positioning myself.

And it would also give a disengage which is more needed then ever.

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Posted by: RabbitUp.8294

RabbitUp.8294

Having more mobility won’t make mantras any better in pve. Your group will still be forced to stack on top of one another, which just doesn’t happen in raids and fractals.

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Posted by: Brutaly.6257

Brutaly.6257

Having more mobility won’t make mantras any better in pve. Your group will still be forced to stack on top of one another, which just doesn’t happen in raids and fractals.

I know, that is the reason why i find that having access to 6 blinks in 6 seconds with the elite isnt unbalanced, that and poor survivability in a 5 mantra build.

And i disagree mobility at this level will make the mantras better, you can use 2 blinks to move and support your group at their position.

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Posted by: Brutaly.6257

Brutaly.6257

Btw, tome cd should start when you cast the tome. And the tome should be reset even if its active. Ie ToJ on kill.

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Posted by: mazut.4296

mazut.4296

Btw, tome cd should start when you cast the tome. And the tome should be reset even if its active. Ie ToJ on kill.

No, because on top of the all standard effects and traits you also get 5 new skills per tome.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

Btw, tome cd should start when you cast the tome. And the tome should be reset even if its active. Ie ToJ on kill.

No, because on top of the all standard effects and traits you also get 5 new skills per tome.

You should go to your main necro class forums and propose changes for scourge there.

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Posted by: Brutaly.6257

Brutaly.6257

Btw, tome cd should start when you cast the tome. And the tome should be reset even if its active. Ie ToJ on kill.

No, because on top of the all standard effects and traits you also get 5 new skills per tome.

The issue is that the number of skills has no relevance at all, its the impact of those skills that matter.

A FB gives up all damage he has when using F2 or F3 and the support it gives isnt any better compared to a vanilla guardian or DH tbh due to having 0 dps while doing it.

It is basically swapping to second weapon (with cast time on the swap and long cast time on the skills) that has zero damage.

If tomes replaced utilities i would agree with you.

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Posted by: RabbitUp.8294

RabbitUp.8294

Having more mobility won’t make mantras any better in pve. Your group will still be forced to stack on top of one another, which just doesn’t happen in raids and fractals.

I know, that is the reason why i find that having access to 6 blinks in 6 seconds with the elite isnt unbalanced, that and poor survivability in a 5 mantra build.

And i disagree mobility at this level will make the mantras better, you can use 2 blinks to move and support your group at their position.

If you need 6 blinks to patch the problem, maybe you need to focus on the mantras themselves instead. Especially when you are suggesting something so extremely convoluted.

With that been said, yes, I insist that mobility solves absolutely nothing in pve. The problem is not with the firebrand’s own positiong, it’s the positioning of your allies compared to each other. You can be as mobile as you want, if your allies don’t stack so that they can all be covered by the mantra, you achieved nothing.

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Posted by: RabbitUp.8294

RabbitUp.8294

Btw, tome cd should start when you cast the tome. And the tome should be reset even if its active. Ie ToJ on kill.

No, because on top of the all standard effects and traits you also get 5 new skills per tome.

Druid gained 5 new skills for no price at all, it’s a bonus on top of everything else the base class can do, yet the cooldown is super short, the cast is instant, and even the resource they have to build is more forgiving than the cooldown itself in group situations.

Holosmith exchanges one toolbelt skill for 5. And their Photon Forge is instant-cast and has no cooldown, unless they overheat, and even then it’s very low.

Firebrand exchanges 3 skills for 15, and we get multiple limitations, that are not only more in total number, but each one alone is more harsh than what druid and holosmith have to deal with. 3/4s cast time to the 0s of CA and PF. 5 skill limit to the generous resource/time-based limit of CA and PF. 30/45/90 cooldowns to the 10s of CA.

Then, you have to examine what those 15 skills offer. Our F2 has no way of interacting with foes, so we are stuck in support mode when using it, yet the whole tome is overshadowed by a single CA skill, when CA also has good cc. F3 also has no damage, and only a single cc ability to interact with opponents.