Guild Wars 2

I was thinking about how we could carve out a new niche for mesmers in tournaments and what their role is currently and what it could be. With s/d thieves, spirit rangers and necromancers dominating the meta at the moment the mesmer is no longer the successful duelist it used to be, so I believe it could be anchored in the team fight a lot more, capitalising on its utility, with semi-roamer capabilities and moving the team around with portal. Obviously the issue is the mesmer’s susceptibility to conditions. To counter this, I tried messing around with Shattered Conditions which apparently was ninja patched some time ago. The condi removal is really quite something and it compounds the idea of team utility, but with its placement as a grandmaster trait requires huge sacrifices in other trait lines (in fact when someone told me that it was patched, I actually got annoyed for this very reason!). We need 20 in duelling for clone generation, and we can’t take away from the first trait line because that isn’t enough, so we are forced to completely forsake the illusions line and illusionary persona which completely changes the play style. While I’ve been giving this a try, the huge recharge on shatters and lack of Illusionary Persona, while allowing more sustain in a condi meta, removes a lot of reactionary anti-spike and allows for mesmers to get bursted down easily. That’s why I think if Shattered Conditions was moved to a master trait, we could spec into condi cleanse, whilst maintaining the characteristics of the shatter mesmer. This would bring a lot of semi-passive, party-wide condition removal and utility while bringing relatively high damage to the table.

Rant over — what do you think? Do you mesmers out there think this could work?

Oh forgot to mention, and I’m not sure about this one, but possibly making it so that shattering yourself with Illusionary Persona procs Shattered Conditions might be a good way to go.

I think it would work!
You pretty much have 20 flexible points in shatter builds, so imo it could work with 20 inspiraion, sacrificing mind wrack damage.

I recently made a rebalance of all useless mesmer traits (like gain 5swc retaliation when going down, who uses that, really xD).
I stuffed alot of condi removal in the chaos line and a little bit in duellig, sadly no one really commented on it.

I dont wan to ninja this thread so ill jsut post some trait ideas i have:

Duelling
I: Far-Reaching Manipulation The range of your manipulations is increased. Manipulations also remove a condition from yourself and affected allies when cast.

VIII: Blurred inscriptions: activating a signet grants 1 second of distortion and 10 seconds of swiftness. Activating signets is instant. (This one doesnt remove conditions but it synergises with another trait)

chaos
III Master of Manipulation Manipulations have 20% shorter cooldowns. They also remove a condition from yourself and affected allies when cast.

VII: Mirror of anguish: when affected by a control effect, mirror it to one of your illussions(60 second cooldown), illusion suffers from permanent cripple.
When affected by 1 or more conditions, mirror a condition to your nearest illusions (30 second cooldown), destroying the illusion.

IX: Cleansing inscriptions: Signets remove 2 conditions when activated.Reduced signet cooldown by 20%.

Ok, so theres alot of text in some of them. Maybe in game they could remove all the time in seconds to make it more readable :P.

I think moving shattered conditions to master would be really cool, but yu would have to change it wih another master trait, i didnt make much changes to inspiration because i think its a really… Complete traitline :P
The full list of changes i made are on my thread at like the 3rd page in the mesme forum if youre interested.

edit: updated the post to match the updated traits.

I really like your Mirror of Anguish idea, but imo it would be more appropriate to just get rid of the anti-CC since that’s a little overpowered for a master trait :P

Don’t you think some of your suggestions are a little OP though? Like, that’s some insane condi coverage and boon stacking just from blocking :P and condi removal to boot! I do agree that a lot of those traits need a rework mind you, they’re just so useless like you said

Yea i agree thyre oer te top, and i want to edit some stuff xD. But im currently on moile and its really hard to read/edit big posts :/.

edit: made alot of changes to my suggestion, and theyre hopefully not as OP anymore :D