Joke Build of the Day - Signet

Joke Build of the Day - Signet

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Posted by: loseridoit.2756

loseridoit.2756

This is a real pvp build.
I made this build on a joke while testing signets during fractal. I have to admit that signet is more suited for balance builds.

This link show the skeleton to make and successful signet build

http://goo.gl/yGc7U

Minimum requirements for this build

Sword/Torch with Staff

10/20/20/0/10 trait distribution

Domination: VI
Dueling: 0/VIII
Chaos: 0/X
Illusion: IV

I am currently debating the usefulness of a few minor traits and 10 extra points to spend.

Stats:
at least 1600 toughness
around 1000 condition damage
the rest is distributed between crit and power

Weapons:
Sword/Torch, Staff

Utilities
Signet of Midnight

Optional traits or utilities

Dueling: Blade Training

Utilities: mirror images or decoy, signet of inspiration or signet of domination

Add 10 point to any discipline. I am starting to lean toward for illusion for extra condition damage and confusion on blind.

Currently, I running a build like this
http://goo.gl/XHsP3

but I feel like deceptive evasion is not helping my dps or survivability

Characteristics.
This build is design to counter any builds that are based on burst attack. However, bunker and builds that has sustain dps are a pain to fight.

Main damage comes from reflection and confusion
When your signet is on cd, your sword and torch is meant to buy time until all your skills are off cd.

At most, this build has access to distortion (3 sec) + sword #2 (2 sec) + 2x signet (1 sec) = 6 sec of invulnerability for every 30 seconds. When these abilities are on cd, the user must pad their abilities with invisibility and use condition to put pressure on the opponent. A panic user is a predictable one.

The main weapon is a staff, abuse phase retreat and chaos storm to gain an advantage against opponents. Only swap to sword/torch when you are in a pinch. Swapping to sword and torch is consider panic mode and wait until staff is off cd.

Signet are trait ed for invulnerability and reflection. Of course, there is distortion but it is less reliable due to clone requirement.

Weak vs

  1. skill lag
  2. bugged abilities such as distortion not reflecting damage
  3. bunker
  4. balance builds such as phantasms mesmer or any engineer build

Strong vs

  1. thieves
  2. warriors
  3. rangers
  4. any non tanky build

Of course, I did not make this build for wvwvw or tpvp.

Sorry, I do not have a strong enough computer to record my game play

(edited by loseridoit.2756)

Joke Build of the Day - Signet

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Posted by: Richard Nixon.6573

Richard Nixon.6573

1. I’m glad this is labeled as a joke build. Thank you for that!

2. Personally, I’d drop deceptive evasion and 10 points in Dueling for 10 points in Chaos and pick up the condition cleanse on signet use. That will help you be a lot more durable against sustained damage/bunker classes that rely on condition damage. Plus, more toughness and potential protection duration will further help against them

3. It’s an interesting idea… but I’m not sure that sacrificing the normal survivability is worth getting the really, really meh signets, even with distortion.

On the whole a neat idea. As I’ve posted to another thread though, mesmers aren’t really suited for signet builds. They have really meh passives/actives, and you can’t bring enough of them to really abuse traiting for them, especially since we have no elite signet. But thanks for posting, made me think for a bit at the very least!

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loseridoit.2756

1. I’m glad this is labeled as a joke build. Thank you for that!

2. Personally, I’d drop deceptive evasion and 10 points in Dueling for 10 points in Chaos and pick up the condition cleanse on signet use. That will help you be a lot more durable against sustained damage/bunker classes that rely on condition damage. Plus, more toughness and potential protection duration will further help against them

tested it. horrible idea. Signet cd are too long to justify the 1 condition removal. It is always better to maintain signets for their distortion. The problem is that if you are hit with conditions, there are even larger problems to deal with. The point of the build is not get hit or get hit on your own term. In effect, its a troll build but I can kill people with this build

3. It’s an interesting idea… but I’m not sure that sacrificing the normal survivability is worth getting the really, really meh signets, even with distortion.

On the whole a neat idea. As I’ve posted to another thread though, mesmers aren’t really suited for signet builds. They have really meh passives/actives, and you can’t bring enough of them to really abuse traiting for them, especially since we have no elite signet. But thanks for posting, made me think for a bit at the very least!

You have alot of survivability. When your signet is on cd, then you act like a theif. I combine everything that people hate about thevies, mesmers, and bunkers to put it in a build

You can abuse signet of midnight. Its an aoe blind and stun breaker. Usually, when people stun you, it usually a common tactic to attack. This build is twitchy and requires the mesmer to guess the opponents next move.

Majority of survivability is gain through normal use of staff and stealth

(edited by loseridoit.2756)

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Posted by: Richard Nixon.6573

Richard Nixon.6573

tested it. horrible idea. Signet cd are too long to justify the 1 condition removal. The problem is that if you are hit with conditions, there are even larger problems to deal with. The point of the build is not get hit or get hit on your own term. In effect, its a troll build but I can kill people with this build

I didn’t mean it as, “oh crud, I have bleeding, I better cleanse it.” I meant more of treating it as a passive cleanse, where the effect is secondary to the primary purpose of gaining distortion. But fair enough, if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work!

You have alot of survivability. When your signet is off cd, then you act like a theif. I combine everything that people hate about thevies, mesmers, and bunkers to put it in a build

You can abuse signet of midnight. Its an aoe blind and stun breaker. Usually, when people stun you, it usually a common tactic to attack. This build is twitchy and requires the mesmer to guess the opponents next move.

Majority of survivability is gain through normal use of staff and stealth

When did Sig of Midnight become a stun breaker? That’s actually a lot better than I thought it was O-o I was under the impression that you would be giving up Blink + potentially another stun breaker (i.e. mirror images) for the signets, but that does make things interesting…

This could actually have potential. I’m not sure how well condition damage is going to work for this though. I’ve played quite a bit with condition builds, and the only ones that have “good” damage are confusion-centric ones in WvW. Then again, this is for sPvP, and as a bunker, damage doesn’t matter much.

I actually like this. If I ever get around to trying it out, I’ll post results.

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Posted by: loseridoit.2756

loseridoit.2756

tested it. horrible idea. Signet cd are too long to justify the 1 condition removal. The problem is that if you are hit with conditions, there are even larger problems to deal with. The point of the build is not get hit or get hit on your own term. In effect, its a troll build but I can kill people with this build

I didn’t mean it as, “oh crud, I have bleeding, I better cleanse it.” I meant more of treating it as a passive cleanse, where the effect is secondary to the primary purpose of gaining distortion. But fair enough, if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work!

You have alot of survivability. When your signet is off cd, then you act like a theif. I combine everything that people hate about thevies, mesmers, and bunkers to put it in a build

You can abuse signet of midnight. Its an aoe blind and stun breaker. Usually, when people stun you, it usually a common tactic to attack. This build is twitchy and requires the mesmer to guess the opponents next move.

Majority of survivability is gain through normal use of staff and stealth

When did Sig of Midnight become a stun breaker? That’s actually a lot better than I thought it was O-o I was under the impression that you would be giving up Blink + potentially another stun breaker (i.e. mirror images) for the signets, but that does make things interesting…

This could actually have potential. I’m not sure how well condition damage is going to work for this though. I’ve played quite a bit with condition builds, and the only ones that have “good” damage are confusion-centric ones in WvW. Then again, this is for sPvP, and as a bunker, damage doesn’t matter much.

I actually like this. If I ever get around to trying it out, I’ll post results.

The thing is that i could have choose better condition damage gear but I didnt. The fact is that you will still have to fight against necro who will basically eat all conditions. Those power and crit are meant to counter necro. Btw, reflecting their life steal is golden.

This build is more balance because most of the survivability exist in short burst. Like I said, if the enemy has sustain damage or a bunker, then this build will have some issues. But, good game play can fix that. I have trouble fighting phastasm mesmers since there is not way I can punish them for attacking me.

Signet of midnight is actually this build best signet. Low cd, blind, stun breaker, instant. hehehehehe