I couldn’ t find him he wasc stealthed. I also dodge his opening
he still had you chain stunned and you didn’t do anything about it. Also like I said whether or not you summoned the defender on one of the phantasms would have been meaningless because no matter what it STILL TANKS HALF YOUR DAMAGE! and you started the fight with none of you mantras prepped. Mantras aren’t very great to begin with but if you open a fight without them ready then you just as well have nothing in those utility skill slots.
So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
That was really bad play I am sorry to say. Why did you invis right at the get go and then just stand there? Why didn’t you bother having any mantras readied? Why are you using torch? If this is that unstoppable immortal Phantasm build you mentioned you did a horrible job showing it off.
Plus you went into a duel with your SoI and Mass Invis on CD.
I am sorry to say but if this is your level of play then no one is going to listen to you from here on out.
I couldn’ t find him he wasc stealthed. I also dodge his opening
he still had you chain stunned and you didn’t do anything about it. Also like I said whether or not you summoned the defender on one of the phantasms would have been meaningless because no matter what it STILL TANKS HALF YOUR DAMAGE! and you started the fight with none of you mantras prepped. Mantras aren’t very great to begin with but if you open a fight without them ready then you just as well have nothing in those utility skill slots.
Well I’ll say this, mesmers are equally viable in team fights but cannot be defeted 1 vs 1 you cannot be broken up over dying in a team fight cause u may have been killed in a 2 vs 1 situation. In a 1 vs 1 mesmer is absolutly overpowered and makes people feel down when They themself lose in a 1 vs 1 to a player with simply an op build. To sum it up: As a class, mesmers have good tpvp and spvp options for group fights and if they want to 1 vs 1 they are the best. I understand that Anet will not nerf their own original class. But at least fix other classes, in this case to give them a fighting chance.
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Mesmer may have the ‘best’ 1v1 setup in the game – I’m honestly not sure on this point, as BM Ranger and a handful of others are also excellent at 1v1 – but that build isn’t ALSO a build that does well in group situations.
If it was you’d totally be right, but as it stands none of your arguments are making much sense.
Also, you really don’t do anything to prevent yourself from getting destroyed in that video. Just having a bunch of Toughness doesn’t mean you’re going to survive when you pretty much just sit there and take hits the whole time…
btw. zelulose posts in every professions forum telling them that he is one of them and how to play thier class. just let him fade away he is just seeking attention. “us necros” us guardians need this" “my sword thief” hes also posting in one thread saying he is an unstoppable mesmer then calling to nerf his own spec in another thread. its almost a troll with no punchline.
Yeah, no offense, but you played really badly in that video. Even wasted BOTH dodges before any attacks came your way then wasted your stealth…
You also use no stun breakers and took then entire stun right to the face…
The condition damage didn’t even begin to factor into that battle, it’s definitely not a good example video when calling for a condition nerf.
You have to remember that skill and familiarity with a class/build factors heavily into fights, you were fighting a better player here and were completely outplayed. A 100b zerk warrior could have killed you just as easily here with basically the exact same tactic and you’re not calling for a nerf to stun.
I agree that a strong Phantasm build is hard to beat but it is entirely possible.
Perhaps there needs to be nerfs to phantasm builds somehow, but certainly not to condition damage.
So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
Wow okay, that was a real duel? At first, thanks for the laugh.
Secondly: I have seriously no idea how anyone can even take you serious after seeing this video. If I’d as someone of my guild to play on mesmer he would’ve done a better job the first day than you do after months. You clearly have no idea of what’s going on while you fight against your own profession and you clearly don’t even know what to do with your own build.
Kittening hell guys, why does this always pop up? Mesmers are not Overpowered. They work as intended, to confuse the opponent. Phantasms to distract them, invis, teleports and trust me here if you are not intelligent or capable enough to fight a mesmer in this game, try fighting one in the original Guild Wars. In Gw1 Mesmers would punish you for using skills (confusion) but they could also punish you for not using skills, they could stun lock you in place and literally control you the entire fight, making them a great team utility. Imagine Hexes in this game?
In this game, Mesmers are SO easy to fight compared to GW1. Mesmers have to put all their trait points to excel in a build, because OUR class is Working as Intended. Of course we have some bugs, but lets face it, until Anet fix all the other classes you will be sub par when fighting a Mesmer. We recieve nerf after nerf because of other players incompetence, but we are still the most balanced and fixed class. Fix all the other classes bugs first and then it will be an open playing field. Also remember, Mesmer is meant to be the hard counter to people that don’t play smart, just as Thieves are hard counters to opponents on their own and Warriors are hard counters to ranged classes. Some classes are meant to dominate in some fields, stop QQ’ing and request Anet fix the classes that you want. It annoys me that these threads pop up all the time.
I may as well create a guide on how to kill mesmers to make you all relax.
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So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
well u made a lot of mistakes right there.just going invis and then popping back up like that was way to predictable and he was waiting for u..u should have put more pressure on him during that invis time.yep and no mantras were channeled, u did barely anything except autoattacks. get at least a clone up.
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Kittening hell guys, why does this always pop up? Mesmers are not Overpowered. They work as intended, to confuse the opponent. Phantasms to distract them, invis, teleports and trust me here if you are not intelligent or capable enough to fight a mesmer in this game, try fighting one in the original Guild Wars. In Gw1 Mesmers would punish you for using skills (confusion) but they could also punish you for not using skills, they could stun lock you in place and literally control you the entire fight, making them a great team utility. Imagine Hexes in this game?
In this game, Mesmers are SO easy to fight compared to GW1. Mesmers have to put all their trait points to excel in a build, because OUR class is Working as Intended. Of course we have some bugs, but lets face it, until Anet fix all the other classes you will be sub par when fighting a Mesmer. We recieve nerf after nerf because of other players incompetence, but we are still the most balanced and fixed class. Fix all the other classes bugs first and then it will be an open playing field. Also remember, Mesmer is meant to be the hard counter to people that don’t play smart, just as Thieves are hard counters to opponents on their own and Warriors are hard counters to ranged classes. Some classes are meant to dominate in some fields, stop QQ’ing and request Anet fix the classes that you want. It annoys me that these threads pop up all the time.
I may as well create a guide on how to kill mesmers to make you all relax.
^totally agree with this and it’s a shame that anet does not follow gw1 with the classes as the mesmer was amazing with it’s crowd control skills.i wish we had that option here in gw2. buttonmashers make pvp dull and boring if there is no way to stop them.
when i pvp i’d rather be destroyed a couple of times, then learn to adapt and be great in pvp after i’ve learned how to counter other builds. Challenges make a game more interesting, even if it gets u annoyed at first.once u mastered a viable counter, it feels much better, then a little kid spamming heartseeker a million times with no counter at all, because all your counters got overnerfed by anet.
I’d rather have more skills for all classes, than nerfs. why dumbing everything down?i want more crowd control, more conditions, if i choose that over direct dmg!
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Again. Phant is no skill 1v1 and easy wins at uber tier. But is worthless in team fights.
You should want something like this to be viable in a territory based game, it’s allows for counter play strategies which I admit are niche in the current meta but there is no reason for it not to exist.
Shatter on the other hand is perfectly balanced high reward for a pretty fair high risk (thief has more reward and better risk but shatter doesn’t need to run away and retry) you can learn to counter play it, but the class is designed to give you tools to out play others.
Stop this dumb thread and learn the game. Please see the game in a bigger picture.
The only thing I can say is phant like BM ranger needs to be more skillful.
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So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
Imagine if you werent backpeddaling, had your skills bound, had a clue what you were doing. You might aswell have been A kitten with that performance :|.
On a less offensive note, take a week/month/year off and learn to actully utilize your keyboard propperly. There are plenty of videos on youtube that can help you.
I’d Suggest you start off by unbinding your backpeddal key, unplug your mouse and learn to you use your skills without click on a npc dummy and when you feel comfortable you plug in your mouse again and learn moving around propperly
There is no Excuse to click skills unless you lack arms.
Take your time to learn proper keybinding, it’s worth the struggle
So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
Imagine if you werent backpeddaling, had your skills bound, had a clue what you were doing. You might aswell have been Awau from Keyboard(srsly filtered?) with that performance :|.
On a less offensive note, take a week/month/year off and learn to actully utilize your keyboard propperly. There are plenty of videos on youtube that can help you.
I’d Suggest you start off by unbinding your backpeddal key, unplug your mouse and learn to you use your skills without click on a npc dummy and when you feel comfortable you plug in your mouse again and learn moving around propperly
There is no Excuse to click skills unless you lack arms.
Take your time to learn proper keybinding, it’s worth the struggle
So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
The game isn’t designed to be played with people standing around just facetanking damage. Standing still and trying to max out resistance is a fool’s errand, you’re gaming the mechanics in ways they weren’t intended to be used.
So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
Imagine if you werent backpeddaling, had your skills bound, had a clue what you were doing. You might aswell have been Awau from Keyboard(srsly filtered?) with that performance :|.
On a less offensive note, take a week/month/year off and learn to actully utilize your keyboard propperly. There are plenty of videos on youtube that can help you.
I’d Suggest you start off by unbinding your backpeddal key, unplug your mouse and learn to you use your skills without click on a npc dummy and when you feel comfortable you plug in your mouse again and learn moving around propperly
There is no Excuse to click skills unless you lack arms.
I been clicking since Jan 24th , and i roll with the punches.
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So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
Yeah he totally rocked you with those sharper images, right?
Well I guess this build is 100% fair then. Everyone seems to be bashing my gameplay. I won’t argue to defend it because that would be pointless. With all the mesmer support, regardless of there state, I can run my iduelist with security now. Thanks all for your undying honesty and kind support. XD Just needed a popular opinion a to whether mesmer sharper images needed a fix.
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Well I guess this build is 100% fair then. Everyone seems to be bashing my gameplay. I won’t argue to defend it because that would be pointless. With all the mesmer support, regardless of there state, I can run my iduelist with security now. Thanks all for your undying honesty and kind support. XD Just needed a popular opinion a to whether mesmer sharper images needed a fix.
It is is 100% fair. It’s whole purpose is to rock 1v1. If it would be some god mode 1v1 AND very good in a group play too, then we would have an issue. As it is now it is pretty weak the moment you have to deal with more than one guy and AoE makes me a sad kitten too.
So just use it and abuse it. Until this build is made better in the team fights, I see no issues with it being disgustingly powerful in 1v1, which it definitely is.
So I tested max toughness mesmer with heals and an idefender and he kills me before I really see him. Ask anet what to say to this video XD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99BKVpBxXQ
This is why people complain. Imagine what he does to GC thief or any other non tank.
That was awful. You have no stunbreakers, all your mantras aren’t even charged, you’re using a scepter and a torch, you click skills, and honestly it didn’t even look like you were trying at all.
To op, What killing you here is not beeds, its the fact you get used as a chewing toy by a player who not only use a better build than you, he also play hes build better. I not often critizise ppls gameplay but you have room for improvment.
Thing is that perfectly played a phantasm mesmer is close to impossible to beat with anything else than phantasm mesmer, that is in 1 vs 1 duels NOTE THIS, for bigger fights there is not unbalanced thu. So for pve and bigger fights they need the bleeds, for 1 vs 1… well this is a sandbox element that we player created and its not realy relevant for game in big, neater to balance around.
If arena net have to chose between have 1 vs 1 sandbox sPvP balanced or TPvP 5 vs 5 I dont think they prioritice the 1 vs 1 duels.
