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Posted by: Higginbotham.9562

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Sort of a good mix of power, condition, shatter, and bunker.

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I am actually living without Deceptive Evasion. Running Sword/Torch and Staff, with Decoy, Mirror Images, and Veil + MI. This stealth build is annoying the crap out of other players (the way thieves annoy the crap out of me) and has good survivability even with low vitality (zerkers amulet and jewel) and decent damage (particularly with shattered strength). I never thought I would be able to spec out of DE but actually had a lot of fun and was doing 1v2 and not having trouble surviving and wearing them down.

PU is now worth designing a spec around.

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Posted by: Lordryux.9785

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hmm i might try this o.o ty for letting us know i love stealthy builds xD time to get back at those pesky thiefs xD

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Posted by: knight.8926

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how long do the buffs last btw. 5 sec seems too low if its that

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Posted by: Lordryux.9785

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idk how long they last in the midst of battle i cant count it lol but i just 3v1 literally a warrior and 2 thiefs and killed them all im pretty crazy for this build right now lol they stayed killing my clones it was hilarious while im sitting thier in stealth plotting my next kill xD

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Posted by: SoRude.2496

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I would love to try this out if you can provide a bit more info. Also, what is your reason for picking the torch? Just for the invis? I thought they said PU doesn’t work with prestigue

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Posted by: FLIMP.8172

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PU doesn’t extend the stealth duration by 1 second (which can be a good or bad thing depending on your situation) but you still get the buffs from it.

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Posted by: Delofasht.4231

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PU is indeed absolutely amazing now.

Definitely feels like a 30 point trait now, changes the way you play a Mesmer substantially, and makes the nerf to Illusionary Membrane totally okay in my opinion. I won’t lie that I was absolutely annoyed with that change initially.

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Posted by: Raven.4690

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PU did receive a nice change and makes stealth more rewarding

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Posted by: knight.8926

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Yea I’m using a torch and totally flucking with peoples minds right now. They’re just killing my clones and getting confusion on em while I stand there making more clones for them to kill themselves with lol…

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Posted by: knight.8926

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then they run and i never see em again lol, dam slow azz mezmer

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Posted by: Neko.1860

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What’s your usual rotation with this build? im quite curious

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Posted by: Neko.1860

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also gear, like sigils and runes etc, i really wanna try this build out, being annoying sure is fun in pvp

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Posted by: Higginbotham.9562

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So I used before runes of Lyssa for the condi removal on MI. I’m still doing that but thinking about a chance. I always have crit procs on one weapon set and energy proc on the other but that is also a remnant from my DE/shatter build. Thinking seriously about changing those. zerker jewel and amulet still getting good crit numbers even with 0 or 10 in Dueling (I’m switching between 10-0 and 0-10 to see which I like better).

Torch is for Prestige which still gets buffs. Remember with 30 for PU you get +30% boon duration which is pretty fantastic when coupled with shattered strength and PU.

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Posted by: Neko.1860

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That doesnt really answer my first question :P, like how the build works >.<

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Posted by: Higginbotham.9562

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Sorry. I rotate the stealth skills to keep the defensive boons up. Veil and MI are on long cool downs but decoy and prestige are not.

I start off with a 3 shatter from mirror images + phase retreat and then try to get a 2 shatter in after that to get my shattered strength up. Then just blast and move, switch to sword for blurred frenzy and prestige r/w/r. I had a 10 minute fight with another mesmer today that ended in a draw, but everyone else is slowly going down. Thieves are the easiest, true bunkers the hardest.

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Posted by: quercus.9261

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FYI if you play a shatter mes if you put veil in front of the mob/player and leap through it you get chaos armor and the first tick of the stealth buff. Very cool

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Posted by: grimmson.9154

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hm this sounds quite interesting.

I guess you use this build in wvw since in stealth you can’t take/hold a point in spvp?
confusion on clone death + stealth with defence boons sounds really tanky.
but loosing bleed on clone crit and DE? aaaaaahhhhrgh have to test it^^

thanks for the inspiration

edit: thought confusion on clonedeath trait was a 25 chaos trait. so I guess the damage is quite low with this build. whatever testing now :>

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

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Mesmer has so many cool ways to build and play the char, love it

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Posted by: BlueprintLFE.2358

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For those asking how the build works, I messed around with it and found some good success with shattering as main source of damage, as well as stacking confusion. Here’s how it worked for me I would set up my usual shatter rotation for kind wrack, then start with prestige to re evaluate the fight and pick up some boons. Then I would use a confusion shatter and try and keep those confusion stacks at that level of 7-8 while continually steal thing for Boons and then popping mind wrack with it. Next chance I get I am going to do some testing with sword and pistol and scepter and torch offhand for keeping confusion stacks up in between shatters.

Here’s how it worked for me, my mind wrack and blurred frenzy weren’t hitting as hard as normal glass cannon, but my confusion was hitting harder, so by themselves it is weak but when combined it ended up with some really good damage coming from 2 different sources which worked well. If I fought a strong cleansing opponent I still had the shatter and BF damage, against a high toughness player I had all of that +!!! The condition damage. I used stealth to constantly re evaluate the fight and decide my next move while physically confusing the player.

I’m going to refine this build, runes and amulet tonight or tomorrow and I will post the results here.

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Posted by: quercus.9261

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I have been having good results with this build in WvW:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAW8alwzaqXUTsGb9IhpH9G5AH1jrn9vTqAsB

I have been running full power/tough/vit gear and weapons, fire runes for might duration, might sigils on weapon swap, carrion jewelry. Typically I will have 12-15 stacks of might for most of the fight. 1000 cond damage pre-might, 1600 with might stacks up, 2000 power pre-might.

Veggie pizza, tuning crystals (tough -> cond damage) are a must. First burst puts 10 stacks of confusion on the other guy and 12 stacks of might on me. It has been working well against just about everyone EXCEPT GC/GS burst mesmers (lol). For them I just stealth away.

This might be the most survivable mesmer build I have played with. Problems are condition removal and this build has no speed.

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