They just want you to play builds that require more skill than phant builds do. Which is a good thing.
As usual, you’re confusing skill floor and skill ceiling. Since you’re obviously unaware of the difference between those two terms, allow me to explain them for you in a simple way.
A skill floor is the minimum amount of skill it takes to do something. You can be more skillful than the skill floor of an activity and do it better, but the skill floor defines the lowest amount of skill you can have and still actually do that activity.
A skill ceiling is the highest amount of skill that an activity will benefit from. Having more skill than the skill ceiling will produce no further gains for that activity.
A phantasm build has a lower skill floor than a shatter build. This means that it takes more skill to make a shatter build work at all than it does to make a phantasm build work. However, both builds have an effectively unobtainable skill ceiling. This means that no matter how good you are, it’s still possible to improve and play that build better.
In the future, when you’re trying to insult people and builds by calling them ‘no-skill’ and ‘low-skill’ builds or players, please remember your vocabulary and apply a little bit of brainpower before speaking.
Wowowow. That made no sense. You agree that shatter has a higher skill floor, but you don’t agree that shatter requires more skill? It REQUIRES more skill, ie it needs more skill to work, ie higher skill floor. I am fully aware of the definitions of skill floor and cap, and i know you are too.
With “they want you to” i actually meant “you” as in people in general rather than a specific person. For example “You should never put a fork in a microwave”. If that wasn’t clear in my sentence i am sorry for that. By the way, if i am ever “agressive” or anything similar towards you it is because you always seem so quick to yell people from the posts i’ve seen by you.
What’s amusing to me is that when the game was still in beta we had these discussions about whether or not a phantasm build should ever shatter. We’ve sort of come full circle.
And this time I think we have a different answer :P
They just want you to play builds that require more skill than phant builds do. Which is a good thing.
As usual, you’re confusing skill floor and skill ceiling. Since you’re obviously unaware of the difference between those two terms, allow me to explain them for you in a simple way.
A skill floor is the minimum amount of skill it takes to do something. You can be more skillful than the skill floor of an activity and do it better, but the skill floor defines the lowest amount of skill you can have and still actually do that activity.
A skill ceiling is the highest amount of skill that an activity will benefit from. Having more skill than the skill ceiling will produce no further gains for that activity.
A phantasm build has a lower skill floor than a shatter build. This means that it takes more skill to make a shatter build work at all than it does to make a phantasm build work. However, both builds have an effectively unobtainable skill ceiling. This means that no matter how good you are, it’s still possible to improve and play that build better.
In the future, when you’re trying to insult people and builds by calling them ‘no-skill’ and ‘low-skill’ builds or players, please remember your vocabulary and apply a little bit of brainpower before speaking.
Wowowow. That made no sense. You agree that shatter has a higher skill floor, but you don’t agree that shatter requires more skill? It REQUIRES more skill, ie it needs more skill to work, ie higher skill floor. I am fully aware of the definitions of skill floor and cap, and i know you are too.
With “they want you to” i actually meant “you” as in people in general rather than a specific person. For example “You should never put a fork in a microwave”. If that wasn’t clear in my sentence i am sorry for that. By the way, if i am ever “agressive” or anything similar towards you it is because you always seem so quick to yell people from the posts i’ve seen by you.
Skill floor and Skill cap are different.
Please don’t bring this up again. I said that they want us to play builds that REQUIRE more skill. I can be even more clear and say “They want us to play builds that have higher skill floors.”If it REQUIRES more skill to play, it has a higher skill floor- you need to have more skill in order to play it (effectively).
I know fully well what the two simple terms mean. I hope everyone here does, since “cap” and “floor” are two fairly easily understood words!
What’s amusing to me is that when the game was still in beta we had these discussions about whether or not a phantasm build should ever shatter. We’ve sort of come full circle.
And this time I think we have a different answer :P
I think that is what most of us are hoping … just need ArenaNet to get the numbers right for Alacrity and/or Persistence of Memory and we’ll be golden.
Honestly, I hope they tweak the numbers so that just having one or the other makes shattering with a Phantasm build the “optimal” choice so that Phantasm builds can:
Have more options for their builds
Make taking both give more “leeway” for making errors … useful for helping lower the skill floor for those first learning Mesmer
The second point would also probably raise the skill ceiling as well … faster cooldowns usually does.
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