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Posted by: UrMom.4205

UrMom.4205

Ok so i’ve recently jumped back on my level 51 mesmer (after playing tons on my ranger and tons on my thief). Got my mesmer up to level 80 through some crafting and now i’m looking for build ideas. I mainly play a mix of WvW with little bits of PvE. My guild is pretty small so in wvw we usually run around 2-3 roaming parties that will occasionally piggy back on the smaller zergs (for means of transportation and easy xp tagging while taking a break from the small skirmishes). We will also take part in the large scale battles for SMC if we see one going on.

I’ve been looking up builds for the mesmer and everything I find that people are saying looks good is just condi builds. Now I don’t mind condi but i’ve noticed in wvw a majority of people have tons of condi removal and -condi duration. So i’m not too keen on going hard into condi as once that’s cleansed and gone, your left with jack. Do mesmer’s have any sort of viable power build? crit damage build? anything like that? Any tips for someone looking for a power build, obviously not as bursty as a thief but something that can catch other players off guard.

Thanks in advance mesmer friends

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Posted by: Lurifix.2085

Lurifix.2085

Well I think alot of people still use shattercat for wvw

me im an oldfashioned kind of mesmer so im stubornly still useing 20/20/0/0/30 and shakeing my fists in spvp

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Posted by: Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Condi builds tend to be the meta for PvP because you can get damage with investment into only one stat. For PvE though zerker is the way to go. That’s just kind of how the game is structured, it’s not unique to mesmer by any means.

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Posted by: Helios.3598

Helios.3598

I use a variation of http://intothemists.com/guides/381-gs_prismatic in wvw and it works for me. It uses Knight gear with celestial trinkets and zerk rings. I occasionally switch to Confusing Enchantments on the fly verse large zergs but I’m not really sure it’s worth it on that build.

That build performs fairly well verse zergs, well for group roaming, and fairly well for solo roaming. The condi builds in wvw pretty much require perplexity runes to be viable which forces you to use Focus or accept being slow. I can’t stand being slow because I like to shift my role from solo to group to zerg on the fly. If I remember, I’ll post a more current version of my build later tonight.

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Posted by: UrMom.4205

UrMom.4205

Thanks for the replies so far.

@helios – thanks for that look i’ll def check it out. Coming from a ranger and thief, movement speed is a must for me so perplex runes are a no go. Is the weapon combo in your build the go to power weapon set? is there a go to power weapon set? I’ve heard sword + pistol is good too, any comments on that?

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Posted by: Helios.3598

Helios.3598

here’s the update to the build. http://intothemists.com/guides/1562-gs_prismatic_20.

As for combos, you can time your iZerker, Prestige, or iLeap with your glamours. The weapons I stick with are on the build: GS + Sword/Torch. Pistol is decent for 1v1, but I personally wouldn’t bother swapping on the fly because 1v1’s tend to turn into 1vX in WvW. That said, experimenting is best so certainly carry around extra weapons to try them out.

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Posted by: Ben K.6238

Ben K.6238

Condition mesmer is probably stronger in WvW, particularly for PvP and sieges. Shattercat will take camps and kill many classes faster, but it’s extremely vulnerable to condition builds and does pretty near nothing to a decent guardian.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Don’t have to go full condi.

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Posted by: Divinity.8041

Divinity.8041

Shatter is strong vs warrior meta in spvp. Me likey.

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Posted by: RedCobra.7693

RedCobra.7693

orrrrrrr, a reflection mesmer, i easily in the first aoe burst on my mesmer hit about 60k damage, and after that you can smack down TW for your team, insta win, i dont see people using this :C makes me sad

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Posted by: MarkusParkus.8467

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Mesmer’s have quite a few non condi builds that can be successful..
From personal experience – 10/30/0/0/30 shatter build (staff/sword+torch)
20/30/10/0/10 hybrid shatter/phantasm build (GS/sword+sword or torch)

If you want something some more detail I recommend Osicat’s guide at the top of the mesmer forum

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