Patch is slightly better then I expected

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Posted by: DuckDuckBOOM.4097

DuckDuckBOOM.4097

They are not accounting for the stack limit and they are also assuming that Illusionary Inspiration is getting reset by CS.

My math is assuming way over 100% uptime if stuff like illusionary inspiration are getting cast on reset. Which means plenty of room for error. I am also counting stack limit but given Pyro’s testing it doesn’t matter.

My testing also agrees that you absolutely can’t do 100% uptime without domination and without mimic. That shouldn’t be too much of an issue though, distortion share is just so useful that domination is really nice to have regardless.

Runes of Scholar so that my rune of chrono doesn’t mess up quickness on me. Using the new herald 33% boon duration to replace what would be boon duration runes. I’m also only using 20% boon duration food and no boon duration utility. So 53% boon duration and then it bumps up to 86% when I swap weapons.
https://youtu.be/--2RJMX13u4
I start with a single time warp in F5 and nothing else.
1:12 F5 is off CD. I don’t bother though. I continue to get sloppier with my rotation and until…
2:55 I finally lose quickness for 1 second
2:56 Back to perma quickness
3:48 I double cast SoI without sigil of concentration (I’ve actually screwed this up a few times by now so only 53% boon duration)
3:58 I finally lose 1 more second of quickness again after having double casted SoI without my sigil of concentration buff. It has been 2 minutes and 46 seconds since I could have used F5 to recast TW but didn’t bother. Could have swapped to shield 5/4 then SoI and cotniued if I really felt like it.

There is no second Chrono giving me extra shield 5. There is no ele extending boons by 2 seconds. There is no guard.

TLDR: Only 86% boon duration. Terribad rotation. Still basically 100% quickness uptime without mimic and only using TW once. How could you possibly not manage 100% quickness uptime without mimic if you have 100% boon duration?

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

They are not accounting for the stack limit and they are also assuming that Illusionary Inspiration is getting reset by CS.

Illusionary Inspiration is reset by CS, And yes what I said would be overstacking, my bad.

Anyways running it, I was having quickness drop after a while but I think my mistake is casting my phantasms too quickly as the refresh on Illusionary Inspiration is longer than the phantasms themselves, again my mistake there. I would get quickness for a minute or two then it’d drop for a few seconds before everything came off cooldown and I was able to bump it all back on again.

Anyways, so not quite as simple as just hitting everything off cooldown but I think my mistake is just having to time the traited SoI right. Does the trait’s cooldown reduce with Alacrity such that you could just match up the two?

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

MailMail.6534

Well, at least PvP Mesmer wasn’t directly nerfed like I thought it would…

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Posted by: NICENIKESHOE.7128

NICENIKESHOE.7128

I’m a bit sick lately so I don’t really feel like log into game and test this atm. Just curious, can you maintain perma quickness AND alacrity when running this?

Just slap on the build since its probably confusing when I explain it. But I drop time warp since it doesn’t seem necessary with well of action. And I wonder if I should slot improved alacrity since I might be a bit short on alacrity. Realistically I probably will keep 2 iAvengers at a time. Is that enough to assume full alacrity or should I swap WoA to WoR and swap gravity well with time warp?

P.S. signet of midnight is a must btw, I want to help tank some unavoidable damage like green AoE in VG.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

I’m a bit sick lately so I don’t really feel like log into game and test this atm. Just curious, can you maintain perma quickness AND alacrity when running this?

Just slap on the build since its probably confusing when I explain it. But I drop time warp since it doesn’t seem necessary with well of action. And I wonder if I should slot improved alacrity since I might be a bit short on alacrity. Realistically I probably will keep 2 iAvengers at a time. Is that enough to assume full alacrity or should I swap WoA to WoR and swap gravity well with time warp?

P.S. signet of midnight is a must btw, I want to help tank some unavoidable damage like green AoE in VG.

If you keep 2 shield phantasms up, you’ll have easy permanent alacrity for melee folk. If you manage your swaps well, that’s permanent quickness too.

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Posted by: NICENIKESHOE.7128

NICENIKESHOE.7128

Thanks for the quick answer Pyro! And sorry for not clarify my questions. I thought you can only maintain roughly 80% uptime if only use 2 iAvengers (since they only give 3s alacrity every 7.6s CD), so I was wondering if those 3s alacrity from wells will be sufficient to cover the melee group throughout the fight?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Thanks for the quick answer Pyro! And sorry for not clarify my questions. I thought you can only maintain roughly 80% uptime if only use 2 iAvengers (since they only give 3s alacrity every 7.6s CD), so I was wondering if those 3s alacrity from wells will be sufficient to cover the melee group throughout the fight?

So CS is on a roughly 70 second cooldown. Every CS cycle you will cast 4 heal wells and 5 wells of action, providing a total of 18 seconds of alacrity. This is 25% uptime, which combines with the avengers for a touch over 100%. If you spend any time with 3 avengers up (which happens in normal rotations), that’ll increase.

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Posted by: NICENIKESHOE.7128

NICENIKESHOE.7128

Thanks for the answer! Should be able to do it then :P

Just something I saw in Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/58lr54/chrono_rotation_with_rune_of_the_herald_70_prot/
This is interesting post that my guildie shared with me, since you can share roughly 5s protection each time you use SoI. Combine with mimic and you should be able to maintain high protection uptime, and mimic+SoI+CS also make up for some of the lost quickness.

Just sharing this if the group need some defenses, it might be a very viable choice if you have no time to farm leadership runes.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

I find Herald runes to be a good alternative and situational pick too. You basicly trade 1 offensive phantasm + the damage of recall for a high protection uptime. I’ll definitly get me those too.

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