Guild Wars 2

Zelulose.8695:

but the damage from phantasmal berserker isn’t even included

All 1,4k crit of it? That’s going to kick you into the grave, yeah…

Acelerion.6820:

Phantasm build is an example of poor design. Its completely op 1v1 but has no place in spvp meta or wvw team fights.

Considering it’s balance in PvE, that 1v1 nerf cannot directly touch the damage though, or it has to actually make each Phantasm MUCH stronger, but at the same time limit us to 1 at a time or something like that.

Phantasm builds are the easiest build to play and they aren’t the strongest. I don’t play one so when I see a Mesmer using it I know its going be a win for me.

This thread is so silly. No, do not nerf Phantasm builds, and do not make them more viable for group play. Sure it’s an auto-pilot faceroll 1v1 build, but leave it like that. Let those mesmers who spec like that think they’re good, so that when their group comes head to head with even numbers they get absolutely destroyed.

Eventually, they’ll learn that not everything is about 1v1 and re-spec, or they’ll become bored with the class and move on. Either way, it’s a win win.

If you’re complaining because they faceroll you in 1v1’s, refuse to duel Mesmers who spec phantasm in sPvP. If it’s in WvW, just run away. Super easy, no one’s forcing you to play them.

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

Eventually, they’ll learn that not everything is about 1v1 and re-spec, or they’ll become bored with the class and move on. Either way, it’s a win win.

Exactly this.
A non-1v1 game should not break it’s own balance over a 1v1 situation. Phantasms are already too weak in group situations, so there’s no need to intervene here.

They are weak because you aren’t playing them right