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Posted by: Aneirin Cadwall.9126

Aneirin Cadwall.9126

Q:

Gonna try to keep this concise. :P
Two questions to start

For ArenaNet:
Is it plausible to alter the animations of a mesmer’s
greatsword skills to better match those of Sunrise?

For players:
Would other mesmers who have obtained Sunrise
be interested in these changes?

Including:

  • Spatial Surge’s purple beam changed to match the color palette of the particle effect trail of Sunrise
  • Illusionary Wave’s spread-pattern effect changed to match the color palette of the particle effect trail of Sunrise
  • Mind Stab altered such that what is rising from the ground matches the appearance of Sunrise (or, again, Sunrise’s color palette used for the effect)
  • Phantasmal Berserker altered such that the phantasm is holding a phantasmal image of Sunrise (still purple and “illusionary,” but the same model as sunrise and leaving the same trail)

Just some ideas I would’ve implemented from day one. Not all mesmers are scepter/torch shattercats, you know (in fact, very few are).

Currently the only effect Sunrise alters on a mesmer is Mirror Blade, and the effect change is well-implemented… but it’d be nice to have such changes applied to all of the weapon’s skills as well. It’s all about getting noticed, after all.

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Posted by: Ojike.3179

Ojike.3179

It would be alot of work that they could use to improve other legendaries.. sunrise and twilight is good already as is imo.. look at minstrel or quip for example. :p

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Posted by: Leo Paul.1659

Leo Paul.1659

Hmm do you really want the color palette of Sunrise on your attacks? Twilight’s is ok but Sunrise’s kinda looks bad.

On the other hand, Offhand legendaries should have extra effects when utilities are used! Since the main hand legendaries already takes over for the attacks.

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Posted by: Aneirin Cadwall.9126

Aneirin Cadwall.9126

You know, I thought there’d be a lot more enthusiasm for an idea like this considering the effort necessary to obtain a legendary (and so few other outstanding, distinctive options for a mesmer)… bump

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Posted by: zexion.5842

zexion.5842

It took the 3 months to get the world completion star fixed. We still don’t have offhand clones.

The change to legendary greatsword for a mesmer will never happen.

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Posted by: Dastion.3106

Dastion.3106

The problem is really just that Mesmers don’t swing their Greatswords like most professions do and these weapons were built with being swung in mind. Illusionary Wave is the only time we swing it.

Personally, I think they just need to rework GS’s main attack to include some swings. For example:

Spatial Slash → Spatial Slice → Spatial Surge

Spatial Slash/Slice: The Mesmer slashes/slices with his greatsword. Damaging enemies in the area in front if him and sending out an arc of energy (Slash does a \ arc while Slice does a / arc, essentially both attacks form an X)

Spatial Surge: Shoot a beam at your foe, dealing bonus damage the further they are away.

In this way you now have an attack that works with particle effects, keep the magical beam sword aspect, and hey.. As a bonus you’ve given the GS a flexible role. AoE when in close range and higher damage at long range.

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Posted by: Deim Hunir.8503

Deim Hunir.8503

I was just thinking it would be nice if you could see the sky and clouds in the phantasmal berserker just like on Sunrise or Twillight.

Well it could look nice … I’m not 100 % sure though if in reality it really would.

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Posted by: natejosiah.3178

natejosiah.3178

I say no to the firs three, it’s important to keep moves uniform for recognizability to what’s happening around you or to you.

As for the iB, does it copy your GS model now? If so then I think it’s feasible to ask for a Sunrise model with no effect on the iB.

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Posted by: Dastion.3106

Dastion.3106

Berserker used to copy your greatsword, most Phantasms did except for those that didn’t wield the same weapon type you did (ie Warden, Warlock).

Unfortunately they changed that in beta so they all use a static Phantasmal weapon now.

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Posted by: Krom.8754

Krom.8754

This is an unrealistic request. Any “change” Sunrise/Twilight makes to spell effects is simply the weapon swing blur. On some classes that will affect a lot of attacks, on Mesmer less so, but it’s still fair. The amount of effort that would have to go into making unique exceptions for them is not insignificant.

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Posted by: CrazyAce.3842

CrazyAce.3842

Hmm do you really want the color palette of Sunrise on your attacks? Twilight’s is ok but Sunrise’s kinda looks bad.

That’s completely subjective. For instance I love Sunrise’s bright cheerful colors, but I think Twilight is for teenagers in their punk phase.

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Posted by: Aneirin Cadwall.9126

Aneirin Cadwall.9126

This is an unrealistic request … the amount of effort that would have to go into making unique exceptions for them is not insignificant.

As someone who knows enough about programming (C specifically) to say this definitively: no, it isn’t. It’s not even a day’s work on the art team’s end of things. This could be implemented in a week with the number of people ArenaNet has on-staff. :P This “request” is nothing short of vanity, I’ll admit… but that’s what legendary weapons are… and that’s what mesmer is all about.

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Posted by: Fay.2735

Fay.2735

I would like a sunrise beam and more obvious sunrise moves on my sunrise but at an asura when dodging the flips make the sunrise leave a lot of swinging type trails so it’s not too bad on asura apart from the fact that they’re tiny O.o (please bigger weapons on asura!)

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