Guild Wars 2

It’s Alive!
Second video of shatter mesmer in raids.
10-30-0-0-30, 1150 toughness, 1210 vitality, 2300+ power, massive damage.

Enjoy watching and feel free to comment!

/Captain Doiid Sparrow (BlackDevil.9268)

Nice vid, good job!

I play similar builds (much more tanky, usually) in raids and I can relate.

A few questions:

• I only see you use sw/torch… is it because [we have no other melee option and] with 10s cooldown it’s hard to switch set (for example to staff) and be ready with sw/t for the next spike?
• You get to play always with 2 guards and a warrior, so you know you can rely on them for stability/condi removal/etc ?
• (I guess this is a yes, but…) you feel like the added survivability from dueling XIII is worth more than the boon stripping in domination?
• Runes are… melandru?

Ty for sharing and keep up the good fights

Cheers! ^^
1. Well yeah there are some things to optimise. You could either swap your greatsword for a focus and keep the energy on sword. Like that you can have 1 dodge every 9 seconds.
Or;
You can keep your greatsword and swap the energy sigil on your sword for stamina or the healing one. (or any other that doesnt rely on swapping weapons too much) I did not do this because I want to keep the sigil for roaming and I’m too lazy to make a new sword.

2. Yeah I rely a lot on their stability and condi removal. This is mostly at start of the fight. After I get some kills I can survive well enough by chaining immunity’s/evades.

3. Well you can’t run this squishy if you not gonna have XIII dueling. If you choose for boon removal you can better start speccing yourself full tank with 100% condition duration for 4 seconds immobilizes on sword aswell.

4. Ah right, rune of strength. Think I forgot those in the build link?

BlackDevil.9268:

3. Well you can’t run this squishy if you not gonna have XIII dueling. If you choose for boon removal you can better start speccing yourself full tank with 100% condition duration for 4 seconds immobilizes on sword aswell.

Not sure I agree with you. Just from watching this video, I have no doubt that distortion on kill is helping, but it’s not the factor that allows you to run this squishy. Now and then you get distortion from it, but it’s primarily the support of the rest of your team that’s letting you run squishy.

Now, if the icd were removed, maybe that would be a different story. As is though, it’s a little bit of extra distortion. Nice, but not a deciding factor.

I’ve tested running with my old setup which was 1400 thoughness and vitality and that just didn’t work and actually forced me to go out of the fights much more often so I would tag less people.
Even if you would run with 1800 toughness, you would still need guardians and warriors to keep you alive. It’s just as it is, you can’t survive on your own, neither can warriors. The way you play and the traits decide how squishy you can play.

I’ve gotta say this is pretty cool. To me, if you can honestly say that you wouldn’t be able to spec like that and survive the same way in those same situations without taking triumphant distortion, that’s saying something about the trait.

Now, about cooldown management. Seems like a bit of a stressful nightmare, especially in a raid. It seems like you’re actively aware of this during fights, though I noticed a few times you blurred frenzy right over your distortion proc. I can imagine that’s a difficult task.

An idea. As clone generation seems almost impossible – IP is really your primary damage source with DE clones providing secondary damage if you’re lucky. I’m wondering if you’ve thought about taking blurred inscriptions instead of DE (!!!) and maybe swapping mantra of concentration with signet of midnight for your stun break/AoE blind which also gives you 1 sec of distortion on a short 30s CD. You could maybe even take this further by using signet of illusions to recharge your shatters on demand if you want that extra burst right then or more distortion. Course you’d have to drop blink for that one, and ultimately maintain veil which seems a necessity.

Crazy idea I know, just brainstorming. It’s purely theory and it probably wouldn’t be better than what you have here, but curious what you think about it.

It’s up again! (:

Yeah I try to have the 10 seconds counting in my head constantly but sometimes you get a random kill which you didn’t expect and you just started to cast your blurred frenzy. It does ignore the retal damage though so it’s not a total waste but meh..

I do use my DE a lot though. You might not see it directly but I use it often to get 1 sec longer distortion. Saying I would do that every time would be like 1 sec longer distortion every 46.5 seconds and with the mantra I’m giving 2×2 sec stability to 5 people including myself. (Which also breaks stun_

Compare that to 1 sec longer distortion every 30 seconds by wasting one of your stunbreakers. You would either miss 2 stunbreakers or 1 sec distortion. It’s not really worth it.

Also; blink is a must and much better than any other stunbreaker or signet that can give you 1second distortion + by not getting DE you will weaken yourself in smaller scale fights if you need to pick off some targets on the side.

But, but… but we’re just veilbots TT, we cannot even tag enemies TT

Amazing stuff Doiid just 2 things:
- Instead of sigil of energy, I run sigil of force. I find it more suitable for mesmer style, with such low weapon swap.
- I haven’t used sword trait, is that useful those 2,5s less of BF instead of blink with more range?

If only BF didn’t had the nerf…

I jut couldnt stop thinking about how the eles, guardians, and warriors were dishing out 100x the damage you were at a constant rate with their aoe and aa spam.

@ Ross Biddle
And then just to compare the stats lol. full sentinal vs nearly full zerker. Blurred frenzy should deal extra damage the more targets it hits or w/e. At least something to compensate these 10k retal spikes.

Ross Biddle.2367:

I jut couldnt stop thinking about how the eles, guardians, and warriors were dishing out 100x the damage you were at a constant rate with their aoe and aa spam.

But none of them are even 1/10th as fabulous as a Mesmer while doing it.

Dawdler.8521:

Ross Biddle.2367:

I jut couldnt stop thinking about how the eles, guardians, and warriors were dishing out 100x the damage you were at a constant rate with their aoe and aa spam.

But none of them are even 1/10th as fabulous as a Mesmer while doing it.

what is fabulous mean?
what are the rewards of mesmer in terms of his act risks.. and how about the ele or others..?
- great play from doiid.. appriciate.. but it is the just other side of glass.. if it would be fights as versus not blob and as similar competitive/challenged vs another organized group.. ?
i am critizng mesmer, and yes it is 10x more fabulous cuz which is most rarely happens.. depends of skillfulness of player, but not fair challenge compare to other classes.. (skipped ranger and eng dunno much them)

Guess when he shatter all bursted player had retal, + add other triigger on hit effects(optional) + f4 cd and duel gm has not triggered yet.. etc..

Amazing Gameplay shown by one of the best Mesmer in one of the best Guild.

Want to see more… but pls… Dat amazing Torch

Azo.5860:

- great play from doiid.. appriciate.. but it is the just other side of glass.. if it would be fights as versus not blob and as similar competitive/challenged vs another organized group.. ?
i am critizng mesmer, and yes it is 10x more fabulous cuz which is most rarely happens.. depends of skillfulness of player, but not fair challenge compare to other classes.. (skipped ranger and eng dunno much them)

Not exactly sure what you mean, but shatter Mesmers have always been great no matter the type of foe you face. Large raids, small raids, solo combat, it can do everything when played well. Most of all, its just plain fun. If you dont want to be glkittenter, just beef up on toughness by using knights.

Dawdler.8521:

Azo.5860:

- great play from doiid.. appriciate.. but it is the just other side of glass.. if it would be fights as versus not blob and as similar competitive/challenged vs another organized group.. ?
i am critizng mesmer, and yes it is 10x more fabulous cuz which is most rarely happens.. depends of skillfulness of player, but not fair challenge compare to other classes.. (skipped ranger and eng dunno much them)

Not exactly sure what you mean, but shatter Mesmers have always been great no matter the type of foe you face. Large raids, small raids, solo combat, it can do everything when played well. Most of all, its just plain fun. If you dont want to be glkittenter, just beef up on toughness by using knights.

What? No. The meta is GWEN for a reason. I like to amend it to GWEN-m, because raids grudgingly drag along a mesmer because they want veil.

In large group fights, mesmer isn’t all that great. Sure, you can do okish, as shown by the video, but lets be honest. A necro, ele, or warrior would be doing 10x the damage with 1/2 the effort.

In small groups (<10) mesmer is actually quite good. You can actually do damage and have access to most of your good utility that is illusion based. Unfortunately, if your group decides to go zergbusting, you become useless again.

In solo fights, shatter mesmer is okish. It’s decent, not great. You can do fine with it, but it simply doesn’t hold a torch to the normal solo mesmer specs of phantasm and condition damage.

I’m not entirely sure where you got this idea that mesmers, let alone shatter mesmers, are great at everything. At best, shatter mesmer is okish at everything, while mesmers as a whole range from great to total crap.

The damage in my video is actually not that far or maybe even higher compared to our tank warriors and guardians. Do I tag more? No probably not, is my coördinated ’’bomb’’ better? Yeah it totally is. The damage is fast applying and quite high, but that’s about it.

The moment you face guilds or coördinated pugs running mass retaliation you will get wrecked. You will be forced to run really tanky and deal kitten damage. Your immobilizes are unreliable and only 3 targets max. The boon removal remains the only good factor, but then again sometimes close to useless as only 2/4 are used against enemies/ are aoe + your burst is very situational which comes out that the boon removal over time from shatter is nothing more than a 2nd well of a necromancer.

Not only all that listed above, but this also requries you to have at least 1 guardian and 1 shout warrior in your group to function properly.

@ Dawdler, yeap my english is not excelent.. ? can coclusion what i said is.. Good wine need no bush.. Large scale fights most difference is aoe.. So retal ll sux where as mesmer doesnt have much style to play = with what returns from risk, effort.. And appriciate u that u try to learn.. ?f not it would shame in contrast not knowing is shame..