What's the definition of overpowered?

What's the definition of overpowered?

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Q:

What’s the definition of overpowered?

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Posted by: DuckDuckBOOM.4097

DuckDuckBOOM.4097

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw
I’ve enjoyed reading this. It’s written by a Pro street fighter player and game designer.
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/what-should-be-banned.html
The what should be banned section sort of addresses your question but it mostly does focus on games that don’t get patched often like MMOs.

Most characters in that game cannot beat Akuma. I don’t mean it’s a tough match—I mean they cannot ever, ever, ever, ever win. Akuma is “broken” in that his air fireball move is something the game simply wasn’t designed to handle.

The reason is that many believe the game to have much more variety without Old Sagat. Even if he is only second best in the game by some measure, he flat out beats half the characters in the game with little effort. Half the cast can barely even fight him, let alone beat him.

In these examples, the first one breaks the game by having no counter. That’s OP. It needs banning/nerfing.

The second one trivializes half the cast when he is in use but those trivialized characters can still compete with “better” characters. In gw2 terms, it kills diversity and is powerful but I wouldn’t consider it OP. Although it isn’t OP, balance changes should bring it in line for the sake of the game’s “health.”

Since you’re a mesmer, I’m assuming you are asking this question because your tired of constant QQ —> nerf problem. I don’t think any class in the game is or has been OP. Some abilities like the old blurred frenzy or RTL? Debatably OP but then you aren’t looking at the class as a whole. We’re definitely powerful though.

One more link on skill ceiling/floor
http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/balancing-for-skill
Basically the skill floor and ceiling can be independently OP or not which changes the perception of OP in various tiers of skill.

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Posted by: Godmoney.2048

Godmoney.2048

The definition of overpowered was when Warhammer raised the RR from 80 to 100 and the first people to hit RR90 and RR100 could solo entire groups of 24 with their tiered armor.

1 RR 100 player could easily solo 24+. It stayed that way for well over a month.

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Posted by: Elric of Grans.7684

Elric of Grans.7684

I lost in PvP/WvWvW, ergo my opponent was using and OP class/skill. Everyone knows this!

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

Thief.

Fantasme Bloodwen [R.I.P. Mesmer] | Andi Runi [Warrior] | Bonedoggle [Necro] | Zooerasty [Ranger]
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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

According to every other class – We are

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

According to every other class – We are

Hey I was about to say that. >:c

EDIT: Btw my charr mesmer alt is leveling up quite nicely. I am loving phantasms so much right now.

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Posted by: DanH.5879

DanH.5879

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

Carighan.6758

The most important quote from PTW in regards to “overpowered” is:

Only in the most extreme, rare cases should something be banned because it is “too good.” This will be the most common type of ban requested by players, and almost all of their requests will be foolish. Banning a tactic simply because it is “the best” isn’t even warranted. That only reduces the game to all the “second best” tactics, which isn’t necessarily any better of a game than the original game. In fact, it’s often worse!

The strength of heart to face oneself has been made manifest. The persona Carighan has appeared.

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Posted by: Nuka Cola.8520

Nuka Cola.8520

C/D thief. Hit for 8k on tanky builds all day every day and when getting spiked its just shadow refuge/heartseeker to the other side of the map…

Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.