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Posted by: Retsuko.2035

Retsuko.2035

Wondering which runes people use on their mesmer and why. Especially interested in WvW.

For WvW, I’ve been doubting between

Rune of the pack
Rune of the fighter
Rune of the Centaur
Rune of Divinity

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Posted by: Chipmunko.5870

Chipmunko.5870

if u dont use focus take Centaur from those u mentioned

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Posted by: samski.5194

samski.5194

I’m guessing your play direct damage due to the lack of Runes of Undead up there.

I think i’m going to swap over to Centaur soon for the 100% Swiftness uptime when roaming and moving across the maps.

This is from a condition perspective but it still might be helpful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1010cbiaWY0

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Posted by: Osicat.4139

Osicat.4139

Think Im fighting a loonly battle for Rune of Air. My oppinion is still thu that the mobility with Air, staff and blink is enought and the dmg of rune of Air is unbeatebal by any of the mentioned runes in wvwvw.

/Osicat

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Posted by: Retsuko.2035

Retsuko.2035

Think Im fighting a loonly battle for Rune of Air. My oppinion is still thu that the mobility with Air, staff and blink is enought and the dmg of rune of Air is unbeatebal by any of the mentioned runes in wvwvw.

/Osicat

Rune of air looks good. I’ve been thinking of rune of the scholar as well. Just not sure if i would benefit from the increase in critical damage too well. With fury right now i’m at 50% crit chance.

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Posted by: Chipmunko.5870

Chipmunko.5870

Think Im fighting a loonly battle for Rune of Air. My oppinion is still thu that the mobility with Air, staff and blink is enought and the dmg of rune of Air is unbeatebal by any of the mentioned runes in wvwvw.

/Osicat

Air vs Centaur is more about personal opinion .. both are great …. but for mantra support Lyssa wins 100% … :P

cheers Xixsa

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Posted by: Osicat.4139

Osicat.4139

Think Im fighting a loonly battle for Rune of Air. My oppinion is still thu that the mobility with Air, staff and blink is enought and the dmg of rune of Air is unbeatebal by any of the mentioned runes in wvwvw.

/Osicat

Rune of air looks good. I’ve been thinking of rune of the scholar as well. Just not sure if i would benefit from the increase in critical damage too well. With fury right now i’m at 50% crit chance.

Different rune sets offer different stats. %crit dmg + speed is fantastic from Air. One thing hard calculate is thu how many stats a proc of the rune every 10 sec is worth. DPS is extremly hard to calculate for pvp and without a reliable combat log even harder.

See last fight, the rune of air crit when he go down in this video:

Just curious how many % power or aother stats procs like that alone is worth.

/Osicat

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Posted by: Chipmunko.5870

Chipmunko.5870

:D high crit Air rock … however i feel it lil weak in 1 v x … in 1v1 or 1v2 its great

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Posted by: Blackmoon.6837

Blackmoon.6837

For the longest time I had thought I had a good secret going with my setup, alas, i R not that specialz =P

I use Ruby Orbs. Screw runes. With the orbs I can maximize my critical damage and still get power and precision as well.

I don’t like WvW, but I’d just keep my PvE orb setup if I ever did.

In sPvP, since orbs are not available, I go with the Rune of the Eagle to again focus on precision and crit dmg.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Think Im fighting a loonly battle for Rune of Air. My oppinion is still thu that the mobility with Air, staff and blink is enought and the dmg of rune of Air is unbeatebal by any of the mentioned runes in wvwvw.

/Osicat

Question: Is the 6th rune worth it for the lightning strike, or do you go with 5 runes of air and 1 of something else?

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Posted by: Fiorrello.8126

Fiorrello.8126

i run a shatter build in WvW, but i also like to pve a lot too

i take runes of holebrak for the increased might duration/power/condition duration reduction. with poultry and leek soup you can get -56% condition duration. that means that you can now walk out of a rangers entangle, cut the damage from a condition necro in half, completely shrug off almost all condition damage from an engineer. any bleed that last for less then a second doesn’t tick on you. same holds true for burn and poison.

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

Gaiawolf.8261

Question: Is the 6th rune worth it for the lightning strike, or do you go with 5 runes of air and 1 of something else?

The strike is one of the best features of the air runes, if not the best. No reason to not get it really.

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Posted by: Chipmunko.5870

Chipmunko.5870

Question: Is the 6th rune worth it for the lightning strike, or do you go with 5 runes of air and 1 of something else?

The strike is one of the best features of the air runes, if not the best. No reason to not get it really.

true that … : )

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

For a power build, you’re really choosing between centaur and air.

Both offer increased movement speed, with centaur stronger in that regard. However, air runes have far better actual stats than centaur runes. The lightning strike proc is awesome, and the crit damage is incredible.

Unfortunately, air runes also cost an arm and a leg, while centaur runes are very cheap. If cost is an issue for you, centaur runes is the only viable option.

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Posted by: Devilsmack.5736

Devilsmack.5736

If you are running confusion build, the best (and mostly ONLY bet) is Superior Rune of The Undead for the 6/6 bonus.

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

I see no mention of Scholar in this thread.

~_~.

Basically Centaur, Air, Scholar, Ruby Orb x6 for cheap players, Divinity.

Divinity is the general/hybrid defense variant that maintains crit damage.

Centaur is pure runfastlol.

Air is good for tank reactive damage, because the proc is good.

Scholar kittens out the most damages, especially when you’re not getting hit (e.g. Air runes wouldn’t help too much).

Edit: Ruby Orbs are good all around, but slightly weaker. Also much cheaper, so.

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Posted by: Advent.6193

Advent.6193

I’d also add Emerald Orbs … they have a reasonable stat spread, and aren’t hellaciously expensive. I was originally Undead, but got sick of limping-slow speed in WvW.
Went Centaur, still miss the extra Toughness/Condition, but get by.
One could also make a good case for some of the less-used Runes. Full set of Rata Sum, for a heavy-Dueling Mesmer could be interesting, as could Infiltration. Maybe
even Melandru, for tanking/condition removal.

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Posted by: mambastik.8735

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Question, with Rune of the Flock, the summoned bird that applies blind, will it also apply Confusion when traited with Blinding Befuddlement (apply Confusion when you apply Blind)?

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Posted by: fala.9810

fala.9810

rune of air with sigil of fire condivide the cd or are them separatly?

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Posted by: Ironvos.9014

Ironvos.9014

sigils and runes have separate cooldowns.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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Lyssa is a Mesmer staple, but I think of it as “general use” and havent used it in forever.

Ive been running Rune of Undead in my Sceptre/Torch confusion build.

However I’ve just taken up a 2x Monk, 2x Water, 2x Lyssa mix which I’m still in the process of trialing. This gives me an additional 10% condition duration, and total 50% boon duration.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Question, with Rune of the Flock, the summoned bird that applies blind, will it also apply Confusion when traited with Blinding Befuddlement (apply Confusion when you apply Blind)?

That’d be nice. Since you’re not the source of the blind (the bird is), it’s unlikely. But worth testing.

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Posted by: azizul.8469

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if you’re playing condition mesmer, i would suggest rune of the undead…

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Posted by: Chipmunko.5870

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if you’re playing condition mesmer, i would suggest rune of the undead…

does its 6p bonus stack with chaos 25 trait now ?

bdw in my cond. build its cca 90 cond. dmg ( i have high toughness ) so its still questionable when it comes to raw dmg vs utility

Xixsa

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Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

However I’ve just taken up a 2x Monk, 2x Water, 2x Lyssa mix which I’m still in the process of trialing. This gives me an additional 10% condition duration, and total 50% boon duration.

By total you mean including your traits I guess, so it’s 30% from the runes and 20% traited? I’d go that route too if it wasn’t all about healing power, the most useless attribute in existence -.-

Rune of Lyssa is cool if you’re often zerg/grouprunning with Mass Invisibility for the short cooldown and Signet of Inspiration for the active effect copying all the boons to allies. A fully buffed invisible group can cause severe mayhem and we’re not really good at group buffing otherwise, most people will have the focus equipped so no blast finisher.

I wish the Superior Rune of Sanctuary wasn’t bugged, because that one would be really cool (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Sanctuary) if it worked correctly. Did somebody check if it’s still bugged lately?

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Posted by: Devilsmack.5736

Devilsmack.5736

For Condition Dmg Build the best bang for the buck would be:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_the_Undead + http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rare_Veggie_Pizza + http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Master_Tuning_Crystal

You guys do the math if you add 25 Stacks of http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil_of_Corruption and Might Stacks to the mixture.

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