White Mantle Portal Device
It has a 30 min CD, or at least that’s what’s written on dulfy.net. Also, I doubt it will be usable in every game mode.
So I don’t see any problem with the item (at least none of the mesmer-endangering kind). I will use it on JPs when I have one of those “that poor guy, I wish I was on my mesmer now” moments…
It is usable everywhere with exception of raids and the aerodrome golem.
Cant be used on combat.
30 Minutes cooldown currently.
I did not test, but you probaly cant use on WvW since you cant use any bundles on WvW
BTW no one brings mesmer only because of portal….. (anymore)
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It is usable everywhere with exception of raids and the aerodrome golem.
Cant be used on combat.
30 Minutes cooldown currently.
I did not test, but you probaly cant use on WvW since you cant use any bundles on WvW
BTW no one brings mesmer only because of portal….. (anymore)
And again, people do infact grab mesmers for portals in learning runs/speed clears, and most importantly HoT HP runs.
So yes, people do still grab mesmers for portals. Just had someone ask in chat last week for mesmers for a HoT run because the newer folks didn’t have gliding. Just because your select group doesn’t see the need doesn’t mean “no one” takes mesmers any more for portals.
It is usable everywhere with exception of raids and the aerodrome golem.
Cant be used on combat.
30 Minutes cooldown currently.
I did not test, but you probaly cant use on WvW since you cant use any bundles on WvW
BTW no one brings mesmer only because of portal….. (anymore)
And again, people do infact grab mesmers for portals in learning runs/speed clears, and most importantly HoT HP runs.
So yes, people do still grab mesmers for portals. Just had someone ask in chat last week for mesmers for a HoT run because the newer folks didn’t have gliding. Just because your select group doesn’t see the need doesn’t mean “no one” takes mesmers any more for portals.
Lots of people use portals for various reasons. Ignore him.
Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!
You guys do realise there is a watchwork portal device that you can craft for a fraction of this stupid 1000 magnetite share price which does exactly the same thing as portal?
Can be used everywhere in Tyria too.
apharma, the watch work portal device is single use. The white mantle portal is not.
A similiar item already existed and noone cared. The 30 min cd is also no issue. It’s a cool item and I’m definitly gonna put it on my Engi once I’ve dropped it :>
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apharma, the watch work portal device is single use. The white mantle portal is not.
Thanks for the clarification.
Still with a 30 min cool down and the amount of shards and cost of it I doubt it will be much of an issue. You can’t use it in WvW, PvP or in raids, you could use it in dungeons and fractals but that 30 min cool down is annoying. Watchwork portals are relatively cheap to make last I checked and you get 2 per craft so I certainly will be sticking with them on my non mesmers.
apharma, the watch work portal device is single use. The white mantle portal is not.
Thanks for the clarification.
Still with a 30 min cool down and the amount of shards and cost of it I doubt it will be much of an issue. You can’t use it in WvW, PvP or in raids, you could use it in dungeons and fractals but that 30 min cool down is annoying. Watchwork portals are relatively cheap to make last I checked and you get 2 per craft so I certainly will be sticking with them on my non mesmers.
im fine with 30 mins cd but imho anet should try something else , giving portal to players could easily mess up with community some would feel not so useful while some would fear it being too useful .
right now , some raiders are trying too to get the benefit from this item.
what they want :5 mins cd
WMPD price is too silly high its like anet just want to make a gold sink item which is the partly problem .
i would like anet talks about consumables in general now and i want to know what they think of those, any particular rule they set like 30mins cd to prevent abusing or saving server performance?
as someone who played eotn , from my experience . powerful consumable tasted fun at beginning but it will worsen everything .til game was ruined.
If this item allows dungeon/raid groups not to include the mandatory portal guy, all the better for the mesmer profession.
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as someone who played eotn , from my experience . powerful consumable tasted fun at beginning but it will worsen everything .til game was ruined.
Poweful consumable… This is just one of them:
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Essence_of_Celerity
Gw1 consumables were roids cranked up to 11. Literally perma alacrity, quickness, swiftness, protection, regen and energy regen. That’s like perma Chrono buffs and more on an entire party with 3 clicks for 30 minutes. Are you seriously comparing this to a single utility of the Mesmer on a 30 minute CD?
If anything, you should appreciate this item as a gw1 player. We used to be able to multiclass. Just think about this item as a secondary Mesmer class. Mesmer still has “fast casting” and shorter CD on it.
I’ve mained mesmer since gw1 and I have no problem giving this item a 5 minute CD. The item can’t even be used in combat. It’ll only be used in open world and occasionally a casual dungeon or fotm setting when someone can’t jump. Why is that a bad thing?
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as someone who played eotn , from my experience . powerful consumable tasted fun at beginning but it will worsen everything .til game was ruined.
Poweful consumable… This is just one of them:
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Essence_of_Celerity
Gw1 consumables were roids cranked up to 11. Literally perma alacrity, quickness, swiftness, protection, regen and energy regen. That’s like perma Chrono buffs and more on an entire party with 3 clicks for 30 minutes. Are you seriously comparing this to a single utility of the Mesmer on a 30 minute CD?If anything, you should appreciate this item as a gw1 player. We used to be able to multiclass. Just think about this item as a secondary Mesmer class. Mesmer still has “fast casting” and shorter CD on it.
I’ve mained mesmer since gw1 and I have no problem giving this item a 5 minute CD. The item can’t even be used in combat. It’ll only be used in open world and occasionally a casual dungeon or fotm setting when someone can’t jump. Why is that a bad thing?
I’ve said my peace in the WMPD topics but I’ll repeated it here:
- balance should be done on class skills, not via consumables, especially consumables that are only available to a small minority. If more portal accessibility is required, fix this via class skills
- the portal skill isself always was problematic. I’m actually quite supprised arenanet decided to make a permanent consumable for it. Even people advocating for a change of cooldown are arguing that: “portal is not useful and simply gets used to cheese the game”. No one sees a problem with increasing availability to a gamebreaking skill (as in actually breaking the game, not being overpowered)?
- any changes made necessary due to the consumable will likely affect the class skills, these kind of changes always do
- once arenanet starts rolling out class skills on consumables those will become “need to have” eventually. How about a deployable aegis generator which provides aegis every 30 seconds, we can call it guardian-in-a-box. Or the very required rage-on-a-stick which provides permanent fury and might for the next 30 seconds.
mesmer was the most gimmicky fun class at release (anyone remember mimic and agony damage pre change?). Over the years this changed from quickness bot, to portal bot over useless-not-get-taken-along-bot to alacrity bot currently. Damage wise mesmer was always bottom of the food chain for pve. All the unique fun skills were changed or “fixed” so handing out the last gimmicky fun skill to a consumable is a straight kick in the face.