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Posted by: wookie.8934

wookie.8934

i don’t think its a nerf! if they wan’t to nerf it, they would tell us about it..

Not necessarily. They even said it themselves that not everything made it into the patch notes/changelog.

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Posted by: Aylaine.1036

Aylaine.1036

The berserker was by far our most powerful clone and even after the nerf it still is. The bigger problem IMO is that the other clones don’t do enough damage; its obvous; just look at the fact no one ever uses the other clones (in PvE)

Everyone knows shattering is terribly weak in PvE, so we rely on clones to do most of our damage. The problem is the damage that the rest of the clones do is negligible.. The only other clone that doesnt decent damage is the warden. The problem is the warden stays in place making it almost useless.

Not sure what Mesmer you’ve been playing, but my shatters are far from weak. I’ve almost hit 20k damage with a full mind wrack combo. Also, my IWarlock easily does more then my Berserker in group settings. On good days, Swordsman will probably do more too though it will vary. They’re far from weak, and Berserker, while doing lots of good AoE damage, isn’t the strongest. Fact is, a stationary Warden will do more damage then any of the others unless the boss has enough conditions to let Warlock slip ahead. My highest Warlock Crit was around 11k, and I am a shatter spec.

On topic, I hope we get an answer for this tomorrow. To whoever said it’s missing the fourth attack, it’s not. It just seems to not do all of it’s attacks as often as it did before.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Well too bad no mesmers were sitting there loggin numbers on the zerker damage before patch because Anet is also going to be asking for comparison numbers (heaven forbid they are wrong and the playerbase is just having a bad perception). But if someone can do a video on the damage of the zerker now. Orr, Dummies in LA, Golem in HOTM, anything… And give their account… There is a thread in the game bugs subforum on this topic. Please post the videos there… Hopefully a response is made. soon.

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Posted by: Nova.8021

Nova.8021

Does anyone have footage to prove it is broken? If so, please make sure it finds its way to Anet.

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Posted by: ScrakeMode.2348

ScrakeMode.2348

Hey guys i know that you think that the removal of the combo finisher is a massive nerf but (coming from a main necro player and mesmer player) necro’s have almost no finishers or fields worth using at all staff 4/3 combo. Honestly if this is true i know you guys don’t want to here it but it was needed. Mesmers are really good. I remember making my alt mesmer and at lvl 5 i went to 1v1 my friend who has played over 1000 hours on his warrior and i consistently destroyed him in fights pretty much i was just doing a phantasm pistol zerker combo with air sigils doing about 15 k damage to him without him being able to get in range or even retaliate, mesmer damage is already crazy(by the way this was saturday. Compared to my other classes mesmers are by far my favorite class and the possibilities are endless with what else you can do even without the combo damage.

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Posted by: Kusa.6438

Kusa.6438

It’s monday… where’s anet?

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

Hey guys i know that you think that the removal of the combo finisher is a massive nerf but (coming from a main necro player and mesmer player) necro’s have almost no finishers or fields worth using at all staff 4/3 combo. Honestly if this is true i know you guys don’t want to here it but it was needed. Mesmers are really good. I remember making my alt mesmer and at lvl 5 i went to 1v1 my friend who has played over 1000 hours on his warrior and i consistently destroyed him in fights pretty much i was just doing a phantasm pistol zerker combo with air sigils doing about 15 k damage to him without him being able to get in range or even retaliate, mesmer damage is already crazy(by the way this was saturday. Compared to my other classes mesmers are by far my favorite class and the possibilities are endless with what else you can do even without the combo damage.

All this tells me is that your friend is bad at playing a War. They need to fix our skills and stop breaking the ones that were working to start with.

That being said, it’s like a almost 10AM Anet’s time. So give them a break.

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Posted by: zaxon.6819

zaxon.6819

heh if i would have expected a nerf i would have logged video of my dps tests in LA. i did them for every spec i made. using the same gear pre patch zerker did 3900-4400 in that range. after patch 2700-3000. all i did was put 3 zerkers on a training dummy and watch the numbers. no buffs, same gear, they dont seem to miss. i dont think you can crit those (im not sure, i heard it said) but whatever the case it was a flat damage decrease from pre to post patch.

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Posted by: Beachead.4127

Beachead.4127

They locked the original bug report stating it wasn’t a bug report. So I opened a new one.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-illusionary-zerker-Nerf-Bug-Report

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Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

They can’t do that…..

After all this time that the berserker got extremely buggy after introducing several patches, they should have known that he has a big bug potential…
Still hoping they just don’t know that there came a bug with the last patch.
Working as intended cannot be, they would have stated that one. (Otherwise the rage is much, much greater after people find out..)

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Posted by: zaxon.6819

zaxon.6819

there are 2 choices.. its a bug.. or it is an intended change.

soon as they tell me one way or the other i will be quiet and adapt.

if we got nerfed.. w/e i will find another way to play the class that is my only main.

if it is a bugg w/e i will wait knowing that the issue is being looked into and will be resolved.

i feel what we got so far was a " shut up kid, your bothering me" response that it seems didnt merit a real answer.

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Posted by: Galrukh.6532

Galrukh.6532

I dont think its a damage nerf, I sometimes hit just as hard as before but often I do not so I think its a case of the iZerker missing more often that it used to.
I would say half the time I do the damage I used and half the time I do about 50-75%.

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Posted by: Kusa.6438

Kusa.6438

Here are the links to how to calculate how much dmg a skill should do and the critical hit it should do as well. Hopefully providing some raw data will help. Also some screen shots of the current state of the damage (pre screen shots would help a lot too).
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Damage
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Critical_hit

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Posted by: Bluedarknesss.1685

Bluedarknesss.1685

They locked the original bug report stating it wasn’t a bug report. So I opened a new one.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-illusionary-zerker-Nerf-Bug-Report

So A-net pulled a ninja and nefted us with out saying any thing? WTF!!!

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Posted by: Darthaemos.6370

Darthaemos.6370

I added my voice to the bug report. Hopefully they will fix the nerf.

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

Kanto.1659

All this tells me is that your friend is bad at playing a War. They need to fix our skills and stop breaking the ones that were working to start with.

That being said, it’s like a almost 10AM Anet’s time. So give them a break.

Heh, you should not offer advice without experience. I’ve fought all classes with my mesmer and always there is one person who is good enough to make me bite the dust. Never a warrior though, they just don’t cut it on 1 VS 1 sPvP.

Not talking of WvW or PvE.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Anet has posted in the thread in the bugs forum that they are aware and the change to iZerker was not intentional.

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Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

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Posted by: BossFi.6917

BossFi.6917

OMG I was thinking if they have made some ninja nerfs becuase my mesmer doesnt feel as tough anymore. for the 1st time ever I got killed by a ranger in a 1 vs 1. That has never happened, even with 2900 armour my HP just disapeared and i cudnt get his HP down. I new something must have changed.

I so hate ninja nerfs!

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oruma.4092

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

All this tells me is that your friend is bad at playing a War. They need to fix our skills and stop breaking the ones that were working to start with.

That being said, it’s like a almost 10AM Anet’s time. So give them a break.

Heh, you should not offer advice without experience. I’ve fought all classes with my mesmer and always there is one person who is good enough to make me bite the dust. Never a warrior though, they just don’t cut it on 1 VS 1 sPvP.

Not talking of WvW or PvE.

Lol, someone telling me to become experienced with mesmer.

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

Kanto.1659

When you say something like, a warrior is bad if he can’t win against a mesmer, yes, I fear your credibility is shaken.

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Posted by: Sarie.1630

Sarie.1630

i feel what we got so far was a " shut up kid, your bothering me" response that it seems didnt merit a real answer.

One of the few things ArenaNet does that really gets under my skin is the lack of communication. It was understandable when they didn’t have their official forums (during GW1), but it’s really rare to see a response on their own forums these days that isn’t “please keep this clean or I’ll lock it”.

I gotta admit this nerf doesn’t bother me a whole lot. It does, however, seem very unfair that they would nerf the damage on this, and not Hundred Blades on the Warrior. Darn, I’d love to see dumb warriors QQing over not being able to speed-run CoF as fast. Eh.. my point is, it seems even stronger in terms of raw damage output than iZerker, yet it’s iZerker that always gets all of the attention when there ARE other things they could be focusing on.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

When you say something like, a warrior is bad if he can’t win against a mesmer, yes, I fear your credibility is shaken.

Say what you want, but I know many great wars that can hold their own against a mesmer. Perhaps you should get a larger sample size? Try looking outside your buddies and randoms in WvW.

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Posted by: Axiarus.2376

Axiarus.2376

Phantasmal Berserker*

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

Kanto.1659

Say what you want, but I know many great wars that can hold their own against a mesmer. Perhaps you should get a larger sample size? Try looking outside your buddies and randoms in WvW.

Kanto.1659:

Heh, you should not offer advice without experience. I’ve fought all classes with my mesmer and always there is one person who is good enough to make me bite the dust. Never a warrior though, they just don’t cut it on 1 VS 1 sPvP.

Not talking of WvW or PvE.

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Posted by: Moddo.7105

Moddo.7105

When you say something like, a warrior is bad if he can’t win against a mesmer, yes, I fear your credibility is shaken.

NO he was saying if a Warrior loses to a lvl5 mesmer he is bad. How in hell is that mesmer A going to survive one HB as that lvl5 has 1 slot for Utility and 0 for traits.
Plues lvl5 armor has 1 stat on it therefore his scaling would suck. If lose 1v1 lvl80 vs lvl5 of any class combo you do suck.

And no sPvP was not topic of the lvl5 mesers text so it has no baring on what the person you quoted said.

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

Kanto.1659

I re-read the original post. Indeed you are right in which whether it is sPvP or WvW is not mentioned.

But the person does say they dueled with their friend,

I remember making my alt mesmer and at lvl 5 i went to 1v1 my friend who has played over 1000 hours on his warrior and i consistently destroyed him in fights pretty much

, which plainly hints of sPvP unless we go through a convoluted logic process in which they were in different servers, used a chat program to say where they were and met in some quiet place in the WvW maps so that they could duel together.

Were that the case then yes, there is no chance a Mesmer would win unless the warrior was spectacularly bad.

Moot point and derailing the thread anyway. Let us just agree to disagree. I have found good warriors capable of holding their own, they were just not a threat 1 VS 1. But the PvP game is not about duels but team fights.