Barbarian-ShoutMancer

Barbarian-ShoutMancer

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

I’ve been theory-crafting builds for necromancer (Spvp)…my goal was to make a necro that could facetank with or without an ele, and i ended up making this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBIhZ6kZTobTsdTw6GgeTsgLYQXtAwBIarlv+AxVxuYYE-TZhHwAOLDI4EAM4QAA4JAce/BA

The idea is that the Barbarian set gives you Vitality and precision, facilitating strong,passive defense (32k HP,21k shroud ain’t all that bad). The shouts, as well as a couple traits on your build are used to give you an instant 25 stacks of might, which makes you a pseudo cele ele, by having every stat set.

The idea is you head in, cast your shouts and Blood is power, which will give you a decent chunk of Death shroud…at this point you should already have near 25 might stacks, go into death shroud, execute your spike and try to stay in shroud as long as you can. when you exit, you should be at full health if you weren’t before, and you start all over again (cast shouts, enter shroud).

The build also happens to be a procmancer build, so swapping into shroud will proc geo-hydro-weakening shroud and spiteful spirit. It also has chill stacking so vulnerability stacks pretty fast.

If you find the enemy team has a tanky comp, you can swap out Barbarian’s for Destroyers, zerkers or Demolisher.

If you prefer condi damage over power, you can use Vipers or Rabid, and scepter to replace dagger. The way the build is set up, when you drop an ice field, you’d have both 12 stacks of bleed and 12+ stacks of poison with your spin to win combo.

(edited by JusticeRetroHunter.7684)

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Posted by: Silv.9207

Silv.9207

It can work if you have full life force before entering the fight, but with blighter’s boon if you active all your skills you’ll obtain a good amount of lf to start (max of 20%?), but not enough to last and make your combos into a team fight before get stripped out of shroud.
Also, why did you chose Rune of Aristocracy? Strength isn’t better? if you chose it for the 3 might of the heal you did bad, because you lose 175 power and a 5% of direct damage to obtain 90 and 3% LF, a really poor exchange.

That build can be a good burst build, but still will never make you facetank anyone, still if you have 30k hp (but yes, that help). In this meta survive who have more invulnerability, not more hp.

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Posted by: FrostDraco.8306

FrostDraco.8306

You can already maintain 25 might in fights without gimping yourself with a worthless hybrid build that has no boon strip, in a boon meta.

I’m sorry but imo this build is bad, and anyone ive seen running anything like it in ranked pvp has met a gravedigger good time.

Your build revolves around might and lifeforce, but you didn’t take soul reaping, so you lose out on the huge amounts of might shroud will give, for mediocre condi pressure, and a loss of ranged pressure. Might as well just take Axe, which fairs way better than dagger in duels.

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

why did you chose Rune of Aristocracy? Strength isn’t better? if you chose it for the 3 might of the heal you did bad, because you lose 175 power and a 5% of direct damage to obtain 90 and 3% LF, a really poor exchange.

Aristocracy and Strength are on the same level, and are even interchangeable. I find the extra condition damage to be more potent then the extra power. What’s important is the Might duration (In which both Strength and Aristocracy have). Without it the might trickles away to fast before you get to utilize it. In addition, those 3 stacks of might on Aristocracy is akin to having 180+ stats, rather then 90.

It can work if you have full life force before entering the fight, but with blighter’s boon if you active all your skills you’ll obtain a good amount of lf to start (max of 20%?), but not enough to last and make your combos into a team fight before get stripped out of shroud.

When you use this combo : Precast Locust Swarm, follow with Chilled to the Bone (using Rise + You are all Weaklings at the same time) , then entering shroud you will have almost 100% Life force fighting 5 bodies. The LF gain on this build is pretty ludicrous.

It’s more like 20-30% LF when fighting only 1 body rather then 5. But it’s a team fighting build so as long as your shouts are hitting bodies, it shouldn’t be that difficult.

That build can be a good burst build, but still will never make you facetank anyone, still if you have 30k hp (but yes, that help). In this meta survive who have more invulnerability, not more hp.

Ya, necros don’t have any invulns or blocks…so what else can we do but stack up the HP ¯\(?)

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

You can already maintain 25 might in fights without gimping yourself with a worthless hybrid build that has no boon strip, in a boon meta.

I’m sorry but imo this build is bad, and anyone ive seen running anything like it in ranked pvp has met a gravedigger good time.

Your build revolves around might and lifeforce, but you didn’t take soul reaping, so you lose out on the huge amounts of might shroud will give, for mediocre condi pressure, and a loss of ranged pressure. Might as well just take Axe, which fairs way better than dagger in duels.

No boonstrip? it’s got :
Spiteful spirit and Weakening shroud on Shroud trigger every 10 seconds.
Shroud 2 removes boons
Chill of death proc on 50% for 3 boons removed.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

weakening shroud does not strip boons, its difficult to hit rs 2’s corrupt. And honestly not every rs 2 you use is going to be for a corrupt or even damage… i end up saving that alot just to kite a bit. Cod is 3 boons removed on a lengthy cooldown.

So really the only reliable boonstrip that build has is spiteful spirit and dagger 3.

that being said ive used something sort of similiar, just never thought to use that ammy usually going for damage

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

weakening shroud does not strip boons,

Are you sure?
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Enfeebling_Blood

That is what’s cast when you enter shroud.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

weakening shroud does not strip boons,

Are you sure?
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Enfeebling_Blood

That is what’s cast when you enter shroud.

lol welp im wrong i guess, never remember this change going in

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