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Posted by: Afya.5842

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Every single time. It’s faster and safer with golem. But since it dies, I do 1 run with golem, 1 run without. It’s no big deal, I can still beat him without.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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Hmmm… not really farming, yet. Been leveling alts in the pavillion zerg but should probably focus on clockworks. I keep spending them faster than I find them.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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btw, does deadeye have some sort of condition cleanse?

i noticed that sometimes, when he has 20+ bleed stacks and low HP, the bleed stacks vanish when tainted shackles goes off.

Tainted Shackles seems to have a ~30% chance to cleanse all conditions on a foe in PvE.

I’m assuming it’s a bug, but you either need to open with it or not use it at all if you are condition spec.

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Posted by: RashanDale.3609

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btw, does deadeye have some sort of condition cleanse?

i noticed that sometimes, when he has 20+ bleed stacks and low HP, the bleed stacks vanish when tainted shackles goes off.

Tainted Shackles seems to have a ~30% chance to cleanse all conditions on a foe in PvE.

I’m assuming it’s a bug, but you either need to open with it or not use it at all if you are condition spec.

not all conditions. deadeye still has all the other stuff when that happens: torment, chill, weakness etc.. it’s just the bleedstacks that sometimes disappear

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Posted by: Andele.1306

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Tshacles does not remove bleeds, you not watching for the timer when they tick off “removes” them.

When life gives you lemon, ask if its from a anime or manga.

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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And now necro is the only class who still can do 5 gambits. GG. Well, and mesmers.

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Posted by: Toxic Massacre.9870

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Hes still farmable on a necro? How do you deal with the more frequent teles and killshots?

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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Posted by: glorius.1235

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Spectral Grasp is unbelievable…haven’t seen such a slow pulling skill.

Getting in, SoS – BiP – Dagger #4/#5/#2
First killshot – Fear
Proceeding with autoattack
Second killshot – Spectral Grasp would be the ideal choice if it wasn’t so godkitten slow
It always ends up me getting downed by the killshot THEN pulling him to my location.

Any ideas how to avoid the 2nd shot?

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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I go SoS, then grasp pull interrupt (5x confus), BiP, Scepter #1 x1, then warhorn #4 (5x confus), swap, dagger #4, dagger #5, scepter #2, scepter #1 spam till death. Use DS# 3 or golem charge as kill shot interrupts.

5 gambits crowd fave excl this time

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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5 gambits.
http://youtu.be/u6VlgdcHOPc


Deathly Swarm (dagger offhand, blind) might be used instead of flesh golem to speed up the farm. It reaches from the center of arena, but timing must be right. Still, even with cool down wait I prefer flesh golem – additional damage and 2 seconds of knockdown.

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Posted by: glorius.1235

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Just simply swapped out blinding to daze, was not safe for me…slow projectile
the confusion runeset is awesome on the other hand, cheers for the tip!

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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I go SoS, then grasp pull interrupt (5x confus), BiP, Scepter #1 x1, then warhorn #4 (5x confus), swap, dagger #4, dagger #5, scepter #2, scepter #1 spam till death. Use DS# 3 or golem charge as kill shot interrupts.

5 gambits crowd fave excl this time

Still using my scepter / warhorn + scepter / dagger. And this following weird trait allocation works awesome
30 IV X XI / 30 II III XII / 10 I / 0 / 0
Crazy i know.

ps: still bummed they didn’t fix the auto kill on my golem upon winning but o well.
I wonder if doing 4gambit without golem would be faster gold than doing 5gambit with golem waiting.

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Posted by: Ravenmaster.4657

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ps: still bummed they didn’t fix the auto kill on my golem upon winning but o well.
I wonder if doing 4gambit without golem would be faster gold than doing 5gambit with golem waiting.

You could cut the Golem recharge by 12 seconds by taking the 20% Minion recharge trait.

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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ps: still bummed they didn’t fix the auto kill on my golem upon winning but o well.
I wonder if doing 4gambit without golem would be faster gold than doing 5gambit with golem waiting.

You could cut the Golem recharge by 12 seconds by taking the 20% Minion recharge trait.

Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

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Posted by: Ravenmaster.4657

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Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

But Scepter doesn’t have any channeling skills? Are you using axe or dagger mainhand?

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

But Scepter doesn’t have any channeling skills? Are you using axe or dagger mainhand?

cast time baby, the thing us necros hate the most ^^

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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There, necro deadeye speedruns (without flesh slowpoke)
http://youtu.be/pmuGae9UwFc


My main problem was life force drain, which was solved with Path of Midnight (Soul Reaping) and Feast of Corruption (scepter 3).
70%+ life force can be used as a meat shield in case of screw ups, but even without it we still have downed fear – just cast it right away and you’ll be fine.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

But Scepter doesn’t have any channeling skills? Are you using axe or dagger mainhand?

cast time baby, the thing us necros hate the most ^^

Is your implication that dark armor gives you 400 armor while in the act of casting? I have not personally tested this, but it has been well accepted that it only applies to skills that channel, and not for instance the slow cast time on dagger 5.

DS4, dagger 2, axe 2 only?

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

But Scepter doesn’t have any channeling skills? Are you using axe or dagger mainhand?

cast time baby, the thing us necros hate the most ^^

Is your implication that dark armor gives you 400 armor while in the act of casting? I have not personally tested this, but it has been well accepted that it only applies to skills that channel, and not for instance the slow cast time on dagger 5.

DS4, dagger 2, axe 2 only?

Multiple times I’ve survived kill shot, wasn’t in DS, didn’t have Spectral Armor.
I don’t have any pts into Soul Reaping so wasn’t a Last Gasp proc. Weakness + Dark Armor makes you really tough as nails I love it. I even use it now in www.

Side note, I do 5gambit with golem, and do 4gambit after so golem back up again, alternating between the two. I still wait like 15s for Signet of Spite in between fights (opening move)

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

But Scepter doesn’t have any channeling skills? Are you using axe or dagger mainhand?

cast time baby, the thing us necros hate the most ^^

Is your implication that dark armor gives you 400 armor while in the act of casting? I have not personally tested this, but it has been well accepted that it only applies to skills that channel, and not for instance the slow cast time on dagger 5.

DS4, dagger 2, axe 2 only?

Multiple times I’ve survived kill shot, wasn’t in DS, didn’t have Spectral Armor.
I don’t have any pts into Soul Reaping so wasn’t a Last Gasp proc. Weakness + Dark Armor makes you really tough as nails I love it. I even use it now in www.

Side note, I do 5gambit with golem, and do 4gambit after so golem back up again, alternating between the two. I still wait like 15s for Signet of Spite in between fights (opening move)

I am not disagreeing that weakness + dark armor is good, I am asking if you are saying dark armor is effecting you outside of those three skills?

I will just go test it to be sure.

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Posted by: glorius.1235

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It shouldn’t be.

On topic: 4 gambits is easy play, a bit sad that so far I’ve couldn’t come up with a solid rotation that would make 5 gambits a safe run.

Can be done, but it’s still risky and have to wait on cd’s, while 4 gambits can be farmed with no breaks at all.

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

But Scepter doesn’t have any channeling skills? Are you using axe or dagger mainhand?

cast time baby, the thing us necros hate the most ^^

Is your implication that dark armor gives you 400 armor while in the act of casting? I have not personally tested this, but it has been well accepted that it only applies to skills that channel, and not for instance the slow cast time on dagger 5.

DS4, dagger 2, axe 2 only?

Multiple times I’ve survived kill shot, wasn’t in DS, didn’t have Spectral Armor.
I don’t have any pts into Soul Reaping so wasn’t a Last Gasp proc. Weakness + Dark Armor makes you really tough as nails I love it. I even use it now in www.

Side note, I do 5gambit with golem, and do 4gambit after so golem back up again, alternating between the two. I still wait like 15s for Signet of Spite in between fights (opening move)

I am not disagreeing that weakness + dark armor is good, I am asking if you are saying dark armor is effecting you outside of those three skills?

I will just go test it to be sure.

I just meant to say that from my experience Dark Armor works anytime I get hit while casting. Because kill shot would normally down me in rabid armor base hp. The previous days I wasn’t using this build so didn’t have Dark Armor and I would certainly be downed by Kill shot. For me it really feels as if it works because most of time I got 3/5th of HP when I come out from 5gambit and that’s without using FoC heal

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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It shouldn’t be.

On topic: 4 gambits is easy play, a bit sad that so far I’ve couldn’t come up with a solid rotation that would make 5 gambits a safe run.

Can be done, but it’s still risky and have to wait on cd’s, while 4 gambits can be farmed with no breaks at all.

True. That’s why I settled to alternate 5G then 4G then 5G etc…

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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Learned only today that Scepter trait 33% longer duration went over the 100% cap, I thought it was a hard cap. I’m ditching out that weakness trait for sure now :P

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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Can be done, but it’s still risky and have to wait on cd’s, while 4 gambits can be farmed with no breaks at all.

Zzzz
farming 5 gambits with no breaks

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Posted by: vicious.5683

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Can be done, but it’s still risky and have to wait on cd’s, while 4 gambits can be farmed with no breaks at all.

Zzzz
farming 5 gambits with no breaks

what armor and runes do you use Halo?

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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what armor and runes do you use Halo?

My build is on the video, links above. Ascii’s build, just with LF trait and dagger for second offhand.


After one more day, I find flesh golem > life force > flesh golem rotation is the most optimal (all 5 gambits), since I can’t keep up LF level for too long when he does 8k shot. Still no cool down wait (maybe 2 seconds on signed, but hey).

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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what armor and runes do you use Halo?

My build is on the video, links above. Ascii’s build, just with LF trait and dagger for second offhand.


After one more day, I find flesh golem > life force > flesh golem rotation is the most optimal (all 5 gambits), since I can’t keep up LF level for too long when he does 8k shot. Still no cool down wait (maybe 2 seconds on signed, but hey).

very happy to have reached the same state as you. Can now farm back to back 5gambit wihout waiting golem or SoS. I use same build+rotation as before but now I actively move towards middle right from the start, can reach all the warp spots. It’s perfect. 30g/h here I come

edit: I did change some things. On opening weapon set I now use Agony on scepter, and Accuracy on Warhorn (didn’t know if 15% para was nerfed lately to not affect daze or not). On weapon swap (right after daze interrupt 5s confusion stack), I got Geomancy on scepter (he’s pull with grasp at start after SoS or BiP) and Agony scepter.

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Posted by: Daddy.1825

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fyi, choosing Squeamish gambit makes you NOT CAUSE ANY BLEEDS

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Posted by: Kajin.5301

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Death Magic I Dark Armor trait is way too invaluable to pass.

But Scepter doesn’t have any channeling skills? Are you using axe or dagger mainhand?

cast time baby, the thing us necros hate the most ^^

Is your implication that dark armor gives you 400 armor while in the act of casting? I have not personally tested this, but it has been well accepted that it only applies to skills that channel, and not for instance the slow cast time on dagger 5.

DS4, dagger 2, axe 2 only?

Multiple times I’ve survived kill shot, wasn’t in DS, didn’t have Spectral Armor.
I don’t have any pts into Soul Reaping so wasn’t a Last Gasp proc. Weakness + Dark Armor makes you really tough as nails I love it. I even use it now in www.

Side note, I do 5gambit with golem, and do 4gambit after so golem back up again, alternating between the two. I still wait like 15s for Signet of Spite in between fights (opening move)

I am not disagreeing that weakness + dark armor is good, I am asking if you are saying dark armor is effecting you outside of those three skills?

I will just go test it to be sure.

I just meant to say that from my experience Dark Armor works anytime I get hit while casting. Because kill shot would normally down me in rabid armor base hp. The previous days I wasn’t using this build so didn’t have Dark Armor and I would certainly be downed by Kill shot. For me it really feels as if it works because most of time I got 3/5th of HP when I come out from 5gambit and that’s without using FoC heal

mea culpa, dark armor indeed didn’t work the way I thought it would. I had ignored that the damage of kill shots varies with distance between him and you. Thought I kept surviving his KS cuz of Dark Armor when I was in fact just at point blank range. So I switched Dark Armor out for 5s Retaliation on Heal and using that heal minion. Fit perfectly.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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fyi, choosing Squeamish gambit makes you NOT CAUSE ANY BLEEDS

Not correct… I have done him about 100 times with that gambit and not had any problems. There may be some strange interaction with that gambit and torment removing bleeds, but that would be all i have noticed.

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Posted by: Halo.8976

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Squeamish just reduces raw damage.