Guild Wars 2

So Guardians are getting some love, it seems ( link ).

I have high hopes a moderator will have a look in our forum too. Maybe they really are balancing classes already. Yay!

I’m afraid more than just one weapon needs looking at in terms of the necromancer… more like most of the traits, skills and synergies therein. I don’t think I had any doubt that ArenaNet would do work on the classes though, it might just take a bit longer for us to get fixed

Now that launch issues are mostly solved I think it is time for some balance changes. A class with only single viable build (and not the most effective in that), poor damage and half the traits bugged should be at the top of their priority list, no? One can only hope…

Axe nerfed, septer nerfed, staff nerfed, traits chaotic and utterly unorganized and lacking in synergy, burst DPS practically nonexistent, conditions mediocre at best, life transfer pathetic. They gots a lot of work to does!

Oh, good; I was ever so concerned about the fate of hammer Guardians. I’ll surely feel better about going home and loading up my Necro. o.0

Necro was the only profession NOT played during hours of official streaming during BWE3. It says a lot.

Necro is at the bottom of the Anet’s interest list I’m afraid. An ugly duckling, coming straight from the Foundry of Failed Creations.

A response or info is highly improbable.

Kaikas.4631:

So Guardians are getting some love, it seems ( link ).

I have high hopes a moderator will have a look in our forum too. Maybe they really are balancing classes already. Yay!

Won’t happen. Why? Because nobody gives a s**t about the least played class. Who would you want to make happy as a company… The 2 customers that use product A or the 50 customers that use product B?

…Exactly

sharky.5860:

nobody gives a s**t about the least played class.

They just don’t give a necro.

sharky.5860:

Kaikas.4631:

So Guardians are getting some love, it seems ( link ).

I have high hopes a moderator will have a look in our forum too. Maybe they really are balancing classes already. Yay!

Won’t happen. Why? Because nobody gives a s**t about the least played class. Who would you want to make happy as a company… The 2 customers that use product A or the 50 customers that use product B?

…Exactly

Are you honestly that narrow-minded? Just because they aren’t posting in all the sub-forums does not mean they neglect it completely. The Necromancer is as much part of their game as any other class. Mesmers were in much need of tuning and adjustments from BWE2~Launch and they didn’t even get a handful of meaningful changes until the stress tests after BWE3 ended. Judging by how they did class balance in GW1, it’s very likely they’re focusing primarily on a few classes at a time with each build.

Could the Necromancer use adjustments? No one is denying that. But they still are playable, just not in all areas perhaps players want to utilize it in. I get that not everyone likes playing condition builds and that’s fine, there’s no reason why you can’t hop on another class and come back when you feel like it.

I fail to see the problem with necro to be honest, The build I am currently using in structured and in WvW….actually in PvE too. I can beat any class hands down, even those pesky guardians everyone cries about, hell most times I can take on 2. No joke either.

Here’s another treat

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Greatsword-s-Rush

One warrior ability is broken and a red rushes to assure that it will be fixed, while we have yet to learn whether or not necro will be seeing any work on our numerous troubles

Lumines.3916:

I get that not everyone likes playing condition builds and that’s fine, there’s no reason why you can’t hop on another class and come back when you feel like it.

And while condition Necro is the most effective and only (semi-) viable option of the Necromancer, other classes like Ranger or Warrior are twice as effective condition Classes, while also having other options.
So even if you love conditions, Necro really isn’t the way to go, but still more than for everything else.

Lumines.3916:

Could the Necromancer use adjustments? No one is denying that. But they still are playable, just not in all areas perhaps players want to utilize it in.

I don’t see any reason why someone would pick a Necromancer in serious PvP, and i already hear storys about Necromancer Players being denied for dungeon runs, because they “would slow down the group”.
I don’t see how that isn’t that a urgent problem.

So when 1/3 of a professions playerbase quits the game, waiting for fixes, another third rerolling on other classes, and the last third still playing the class, but feeling handicapped the whole time and not really having fun, then i don’t think “still playable” is enough.

After years of “when it’s ready”, it’s kind of disappointing when the class you were planning to play all that time is bugged like hell and weaker than everything else across the board.

Chigure.6859:

Here’s another treat

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Greatsword-s-Rush

One warrior ability is broken and a red rushes to assure that it will be fixed, while we have yet to learn whether or not necro will be seeing any work on our numerous troubles

Because the warrior is one of the most played classes. Of course they rushed to assure them fixes are underway.

Look, I’m trying my best not to be a cynical kitten here, but I’m seeing history repeat itself with this class. Every MMO that has ever released has always had a problem class. Like clockwork, the developers always manage to largely ignore that class, save for a few seemingly unjustified and heavy handed nerfs, until the first expansion. At which point they then go back and “reevaluate” the class, along with a few others. This typically results in overtuning the problem class into a monstrosity, and for about a month the class is now viewed as an unstoppable killing machine. Then the devs drop a massive nerf hammer knocking the class back down to mediocrity status while retaining a few key abilities that make the class at least have some kind of effective role in group situations. Of course this results in a net buff for the entire class over all, but that class never rises to any kind of meaningful popularity.

Canehdian.8975:

I fail to see the problem with necro to be honest, The build I am currently using in structured and in WvW….actually in PvE too. I can beat any class hands down, even those pesky guardians everyone cries about, hell most times I can take on 2. No joke either.

Why don’t you share your wisdom with us poor theorycrafters then?

If they’re gonna address concerns in any of the class forums they have to do it in all of the class forums. If they don’t it’s just gonna breed resentment, especially when they’re replying in the forums of classes that are at the top of the power spectrum. It’s just bad public relations.

Necromancers are obviously the numerical minority… due to the class being as it is and needing the most work on, I doubt we are a priority.

Asum.4960:

Canehdian.8975:

I fail to see the problem with necro to be honest, The build I am currently using in structured and in WvW….actually in PvE too. I can beat any class hands down, even those pesky guardians everyone cries about, hell most times I can take on 2. No joke either.

Why don’t you share your wisdom with us poor theorycrafters then?

I would, but really…I’ve been playing MMO’s since Pre-Valious of EQ1 now in order to be unique and make a name for yourself back in that day, its was your gear/guild you were in and the progression you can prove from the gear you wore. Now you need to be either A. Playing WAY too many hours and Carving a name for yourself with builds, guild hopping, forum post you name it, Or B. in a pvp game like this one have a unique build others cannot replicate, or you throw them through the loop by being competitive and using something that they’ve never seen.

Now if I was to post my build necro’s would see it and than every necro would roll that and become the flavor of the month, and frankly I took the time to research, tinker and am still working out ways to improve on it to throw out to the kingdom o necro’s to have it a common build and my uniqueness thrown out the window.

Yes you can say that “hey, you made that build” but in the grand scheme of things who will remember the first to make it, which that means ill have to involve myself in making other build separate from that one making a name for myself yet again, keeping up with the competition, and well….this is not a 3rd job or second life that I am not will to do…

Canehdian.8975:

Asum.4960:

Canehdian.8975:

I fail to see the problem with necro to be honest, The build I am currently using in structured and in WvW….actually in PvE too. I can beat any class hands down, even those pesky guardians everyone cries about, hell most times I can take on 2. No joke either.

Why don’t you share your wisdom with us poor theorycrafters then?

I would, but really…I’ve been playing MMO’s since Pre-Valious of EQ1 now in order to be unique and make a name for yourself back in that day, its was your gear/guild you were in and the progression you can prove from the gear you wore. Now you need to be either A. Playing WAY too many hours and Carving a name for yourself with builds, guild hopping, forum post you name it, Or B. in a pvp game like this one have a unique build others cannot replicate, or you throw them through the loop by being competitive and using something that they’ve never seen.

Now if I was to post my build necro’s would see it and than every necro would roll that and become the flavor of the month, and frankly I took the time to research, tinker and am still working out ways to improve on it to throw out to the kingdom o necro’s to have it a common build and my uniqueness thrown out the window.

Yes you can say that “hey, you made that build” but in the grand scheme of things who will remember the first to make it, which that means ill have to involve myself in making other build separate from that one making a name for myself yet again, keeping up with the competition, and well….this is not a 3rd job or second life that I am not will to do…

Reasonably sure it’s Velious btw.

Also it’s easy to stomp pub groups in 8v8 if you have any type of skill, the issue is that the majority of the Necromancers traits are not working as intended.

Congratulations that you apparently have this amazing build that can’t be shared with others but the fact is that the Necros need some bug fixes.

The majority of people on this forum are only asking for fixes, not for buffs or balance changes.