Guild Wars 2

Druitt.7629:

Sounds like roleplaying is important to you. Great. I take the flavor of the profession as what it is, and Necro is the most interesting profession in the game, in my opinion. Sorry that the drawings you put up on your wall when you read about Necros doesn’t match what Necros are.

RP=/= Lore freak, im a lore freak (and love to speculate stuff like Dhuum graped Dwayna for Grenth, Arach being killed the last time the EDs awoke and that the older gods blocked them from the mists, etc based on hints in game), but dont rp, same thing is probably with His. And yeah by lore fire aint something necros really got, well we could boil blood but not in the burning way.

Andele.1306:

Druitt.7629:

Sounds like roleplaying is important to you. Great. I take the flavor of the profession as what it is, and Necro is the most interesting profession in the game, in my opinion. Sorry that the drawings you put up on your wall when you read about Necros doesn’t match what Necros are.

RP=/= Lore freak, im a lore freak (and love to speculate stuff like Dhuum graped Dwayna for Grenth, Arach being killed the last time the EDs awoke and that the older gods blocked them from the mists, etc based on hints in game), but dont rp, same thing is probably with His. And yeah by lore fire aint something necros really got, well we could boil blood but not in the burning way.

Right in the boolseye. I never particularly cared for actual RP, neither dislike it nor like it, but lore for me is as important as gameplay. W/o a story its all a meaningless buttonmasher. There is a ton of interesting reading material about bloodstones, keystone how human gods basically changed entire concept of magic when they came to kryta from the other continent. Jennah, from perspective of magic, seems like a helova important figure. Only direct descendent so she is the only one who can even use keystone. And back on topic all that necromancer lore in gw setting and its all flushed down the toilet for the sake of mediocre streamlined gameplay. Pfft. There is infinite supply of mediocre mmos. Human gods hold a lot of say in gw lore, and dismissing direct priests of one of them and changing established roles or spitting on them seems like it should be insulting to the people who wrote it more then anyone else.
Dhuum? Seriously? Of all the things they could have put there they chose that?
You put an ability from the god Grenth replaced? Waged war on? Sealed? What ever they smoke there must be really and I mean REALLY GOOD. Dhuum is mortal enemy of the first Tyria born god – Grenth. As a god, he is attributed to the judgment of the dead, vengeance, and destruction alongside darkness, ice, and death. Hows even fire fit in?
Not to mention the war between those is still ongoing. Yeah Grenth blew up Dhuums tower in Underworld and all that but it never ended and Dhuum woke up several times. So again in what kind of bizzare scenario priests of the Grenth would use ability from the god that directly opposes him?!

Its like bad hollywood movies here.

HiSaZuL.2843:

Dhuum? Seriously? Of all the things they could have put there they chose that?
You put an ability from the god Grenth replaced? Waged war on? Sealed? What ever they smoke there must be really and I mean REALLY GOOD. Dhuum is mortal enemy of the first Tyria born god – Grenth. As a god, he is attributed to the judgment of the dead, vengeance, and destruction alongside darkness, ice, and death. Hows even fire fit in?
Not to mention the war between those is still ongoing. Yeah Grenth blew up Dhuums tower in Underworld and all that but it never ended and Dhuum woke up several times. So again in what kind of bizzare scenario priests of the Grenth would use ability from the god that directly opposes him?!

Its like bad hollywood movies here.

I kinda stated this multiple times, it makes more sense that the current necros are powered by Dhuums magic (that is getting stronger each time he breaks out and we humans dont stop him) and as far as we know he might actually not even be sealed anymore, the reapers themself stated in GW that they aint strong enough to reseal him and at least two of them is lingering on tyria (orr and shiverpeaks).
Since despite being a cruel/sadistic/egoistic/apathetic god, he is still a human god and even if Grenth carries the title god of Death, he is just in charge of the cold and judgement of souls (as every statue in GW likes to remind you). Even our DS skills (2 and 4) are direct ties to his attacks (blink that weakens the enemy and aoe life removal).
Not that Grenth is bad or anything, he is awesome, but Dhuum got plain more interesting stuff to offer (not to mention that he hates minions just as most of us and 2 scrolls suggest Dhuum might be Grenths daddy).
It would be cool to see Necros be able to chose between 2 sets of playstyle (defensive and offensive) thus chose a god to fit it based on how stuff went in UW (dhuum and grenth respectively).

Andele.1306:

HiSaZuL.2843:

Dhuum? Seriously? Of all the things they could have put there they chose that?
You put an ability from the god Grenth replaced? Waged war on? Sealed? What ever they smoke there must be really and I mean REALLY GOOD. Dhuum is mortal enemy of the first Tyria born god – Grenth. As a god, he is attributed to the judgment of the dead, vengeance, and destruction alongside darkness, ice, and death. Hows even fire fit in?
Not to mention the war between those is still ongoing. Yeah Grenth blew up Dhuums tower in Underworld and all that but it never ended and Dhuum woke up several times. So again in what kind of bizzare scenario priests of the Grenth would use ability from the god that directly opposes him?!

Its like bad hollywood movies here.

I kinda stated this multiple times, it makes more sense that the current necros are powered by Dhuums magic (that is getting stronger each time he breaks out and we humans dont stop him) and as far as we know he might actually not even be sealed anymore, the reapers themself stated in GW that they aint strong enough to reseal him and at least two of them is lingering on tyria (orr and shiverpeaks).
Since despite being a cruel/sadistic/egoistic/apathetic god, he is still a human god and even if Grenth carries the title god of Death, he is just in charge of the cold and judgement of souls (as every statue in GW likes to remind you). Even our DS skills (2 and 4) are direct ties to his attacks (blink that weakens the enemy and aoe life removal).
Not that Grenth is bad or anything, he is awesome, but Dhuum got plain more interesting stuff to offer (not to mention that he hates minions just as most of us and 2 scrolls suggest Dhuum might be Grenths daddy).
It would be cool to see Necros be able to chose between 2 sets of playstyle (defensive and offensive) thus chose a god to fit it based on how stuff went in UW (dhuum and grenth respectively).

2 major flaws with your statement. Dhuum was sealed away because he wouldn’t allow resurrection. Aka, no undead minions. So if we assume that Dhuum was awake and defeated grenth, then some how changed magic for the races that was put in place by the 5 true gods, some how breaking a magic seal and at the same time knowing about it even though his reach has basically been restricted to the underworld for generations, AND ignoring the fact that Grenth is still active in the world of tyria(you learn this from one of his avatars) You still have the problem of minions still being around.

The second flaw in your argument is that Dhuum is the final judge. If he did manage to break out, he would end the world. No dragon, god, or captain planet friendship is going to be able to stop him. You would defiantly be seeing his minions at the very least.

Dhuum’s magic was designed to prevent things from coming back. Aka, minions, res skills, spirits, all of that can’t happen with him in power. The reason he uses fire in his attacks was a flavorful way to express to the players that he was against undead abominations. Grenth on the other hand uses ice. Which helps to preserve the dead. its thematic. And Arena Net forgetting this and just throwing caution into the wind and doing whatever they want with no explanation as to why, or how is extremely unprofessional and upsetting.

Titanimite.2534:

Chesire.9043:

Poplolita.2638:

I would like to thank you for giving necromancer a chance to finally shine.

Thank you

Hope they don’t nerf us too fast.

Don’t worry they will

Absolutely, necros were good before the patch and now they’re ungodly.

Thanks for at least starting a positive thread. It is sad to hear all this whining.
Yes, I am also happy about the necromancer now.

“Sounds like roleplaying is important to you. Great. I take the flavor of the profession as what it is, and Necro is the most interesting profession in the game, in my opinion.”

Thought this was hilarious in itself, the Necromancer is one of the stupidest concepts for this type of epic hero story.

“What’s that! Little Betty Lou fell down a well you say!? Come rotting flesh golem and demonic spider/crab and/or wurm thing, we must save her!”

OR

“All I ever wanted to know was who my parent’s were and why they left me. Now that I know, I’m at peace… because I can raise them and have ZOMBIE PARENTS (Human Story)!

OR

“Yes, yes I’ll come save you all, protect the weak, save the innocent and all that stuff. Just let me finish bleeding myself so I can raise the undead and bring rot and pestilence.”

But back on track, only thing that is over done is the damage with the new fear. CC is for better control to apply your abilites, when its comes to the point where the cc is one of the top damaging sources something is wrong.

Lily.1935:

Andele.1306:

HiSaZuL.2843:

Dhuum? Seriously? Of all the things they could have put there they chose that?
You put an ability from the god Grenth replaced? Waged war on? Sealed? What ever they smoke there must be really and I mean REALLY GOOD. Dhuum is mortal enemy of the first Tyria born god – Grenth. As a god, he is attributed to the judgment of the dead, vengeance, and destruction alongside darkness, ice, and death. Hows even fire fit in?
Not to mention the war between those is still ongoing. Yeah Grenth blew up Dhuums tower in Underworld and all that but it never ended and Dhuum woke up several times. So again in what kind of bizzare scenario priests of the Grenth would use ability from the god that directly opposes him?!

Its like bad hollywood movies here.

I kinda stated this multiple times, it makes more sense that the current necros are powered by Dhuums magic (that is getting stronger each time he breaks out and we humans dont stop him) and as far as we know he might actually not even be sealed anymore, the reapers themself stated in GW that they aint strong enough to reseal him and at least two of them is lingering on tyria (orr and shiverpeaks).
Since despite being a cruel/sadistic/egoistic/apathetic god, he is still a human god and even if Grenth carries the title god of Death, he is just in charge of the cold and judgement of souls (as every statue in GW likes to remind you). Even our DS skills (2 and 4) are direct ties to his attacks (blink that weakens the enemy and aoe life removal).
Not that Grenth is bad or anything, he is awesome, but Dhuum got plain more interesting stuff to offer (not to mention that he hates minions just as most of us and 2 scrolls suggest Dhuum might be Grenths daddy).
It would be cool to see Necros be able to chose between 2 sets of playstyle (defensive and offensive) thus chose a god to fit it based on how stuff went in UW (dhuum and grenth respectively).

2 major flaws with your statement. Dhuum was sealed away because he wouldn’t allow resurrection. Aka, no undead minions. So if we assume that Dhuum was awake and defeated grenth, then some how changed magic for the races that was put in place by the 5 true gods, some how breaking a magic seal and at the same time knowing about it even though his reach has basically been restricted to the underworld for generations, AND ignoring the fact that Grenth is still active in the world of tyria(you learn this from one of his avatars) You still have the problem of minions still being around.

The second flaw in your argument is that Dhuum is the final judge. If he did manage to break out, he would end the world. No dragon, god, or captain planet friendship is going to be able to stop him. You would defiantly be seeing his minions at the very least.

Dhuum’s magic was designed to prevent things from coming back. Aka, minions, res skills, spirits, all of that can’t happen with him in power. The reason he uses fire in his attacks was a flavorful way to express to the players that he was against undead abominations. Grenth on the other hand uses ice. Which helps to preserve the dead. its thematic. And Arena Net forgetting this and just throwing caution into the wind and doing whatever they want with no explanation as to why, or how is extremely unprofessional and upsetting.

In no way did I state that Dhuum was still the one holding the say or the opposite for that matter. Unless you meant that towards Andele but still, he is simply not-dead and for the most part controls a good portion of underworld he took back after Grenth sealed him away and broke his tower in underworld. That simply means Grenth is the one technically in charge while Dhuum is working on getting his old position back. He has reawaked previously and we weren’t even told if last time he got sealed back fully or not. Its open question. So I’m not really sure why you argue a point I didn’t make lol.

Also everything about bloodstones/keystone is fairly specific and detailed. If you care about it read it. Its good reading material. Also… illustrates why Zhaitan is an kitten lol.

Fun little fact. Shades are like Aatxe and are inhabitants of underworld. Most of Dhuums servants were pretty undeadish like skeletons/apparitions/wraiths etc. But now demons are the ones allying with him. So which one of them is more tolerable to undead Grenth or Dhuum. Frankly… Idk. Dhuum while a human god and a hellova powerful is still an kitten . Grenth is a nicer fella, maybe because he was born human -_- Then again we don’t really know much about origins of original human gods. A bunch of gods got their powers from another deposed god. Grenth and Abbaddon being the most glamorized two.

Also as powerful as he is… he still got his kitten handed to him by a half-god. That implies Grenth is no slouch himself.