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Posted by: Brode.7689

Brode.7689

Lol my post was based off your scenario from an earlier post. I found it funny that you downed a guardian before a glassy target in the first place, in your made up fight. So… yeah.

To your second part. I was only pointing out that you may want to use plague stomp over SW+wurm stomp, especially if it’s the middle of a fight and you’re going to use it anyhow. I wasn’t nit-picking, your previous post was saying plague stomp would be nice if in the middle of a big group, yet it seems with this build you’re more worried about being flashy with SW and Wurm. Half the time in your video you were porting all over the place for no reason, imo.

The spot in your video where you do the stomp, could have still been interrupted. The only reason it wasn’t, is because there was another person stomping that the guardian pushed back.

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Posted by: TakeCare.3182

TakeCare.3182

First part. We are agreeing that those skills are lifelines, so using 2 of them for 1 stomp is horrible. Also, when that stomp could be used as an epidemic target and his method of stomping isn’t even a 100% stomp.

Well, clearly we define “horrible” very differently. I would say that getting a clutch stomp that rallies an otherwise un-ressable ally in an outnumbered fight is “awesome.” Yes, I had to use more resources than I would have liked, but it paid off, as you can see in the video.

As far as epidemic goes, it is a good strategy when you don’t need a stomp right away, but when you need a stomp right now (like when an ally is being stomped and needs rallied), it is simply not an option.

Second part. That’s why it’s a challenge to him.

I was basically trying to get across the point that your challenge is unreasonable. You can’t just go out and perform a stomp that changes the tide of a battle. Those opportunities don’t present themselves every day. It makes more sense to follow the path of logic. We know that a stomp can be game-changing. We know that a wurm stomp can be performed in combat. As a result, we can conclude that a wurm stomp has the potential to be game-changing. It is just that simple.

Also, that’s a cool story bro. However, you had a guaranteed stomp (if you didn’t die) with 1 skill, it just so happened that you needed to use 2 for the stomp.

Aw. I thought we were playing nice? I am disappointed.

It’s not a guaranteed stomp if I down, as you pointed out. I was likely to down in that situation so I ended up using two skills, both of which have very long cooldowns.

Also, your little trick doesn’t work 100% of the time. I’ve stopped thieves 100s of times from doing their shadowstep stomps. Here’s a video for you.

This is silly. Of course, Methane’s “little trick” isn’t 100% successful. No stomp is guaranteed. I cannot tell you how many Mist Form stomps have been thwarted by enemy thieves stealthing my target. Also, as a thief who performs Shadowstep stomps on a daily basis, I think I can count on my hand the number of times I have been interrupted. Just because there is the possibility that something might not work, it does not mean that you should not go ahead and try if the situation calls for it. You know, your attacks are not 100% successful either. They can miss or be dodged or blocked or whatever else. Are you going to stop bursting because it might not work?

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Posted by: MethaneGas.8357

MethaneGas.8357

Lol my post was based off your scenario from an earlier post. I found it funny that you downed a guardian before a glassy target in the first place, in your made up fight. So… yeah.

Whoever goes down first, friend Maybe the glassy person is more skilled than the guardian and the guardian was just a better choice. You dispute what I say, I dispute what you say. It can go on forever.

To your second part. I was only pointing out that you may want to use plague stomp over SW+wurm stomp, especially if it’s the middle of a fight and you’re going to use it anyhow. I wasn’t nit-picking, your previous post was saying plague stomp would be nice if in the middle of a big group, yet it seems with this build you’re more worried about being flashy with SW and Wurm. Half the time in your video you were porting all over the place for no reason, imo.

The survival is inherently flashy. Teleporting is inherently flashy, especially when a Necro does it :P Survival is the main reason I use those skills – not stomping and not to appear flashy to my enemies (unless I’m trying to entertain the viewer – when the audience is entertained, I am too). It just comes with the package. Stomping is an option, which is excellent. Why wouldn’t I use it when an opportunity presents itself?
As I said in the first paragraph of the guide, I did not include the thought process of why I chose to do certain actions, which is why it might seem “for no reason”.
Lastly, in situations where I could have used Plague stomp but I didn’t… among the particle effects and my two allies in a large number enemies, I instinctively thought it best to protect allies with Plague – not to search the battlefield for downed bodies. I agree with you the stomp would have been perfect there, though.

The spot in your video where you do the stomp, could have still been interrupted. The only reason it wasn’t, is because there was another person stomping that the guardian pushed back.

You think that the guardian was keenly watching me (A Necro usually NEVER teleports), instead of all the other enemies around him and counted the exact seconds in his head when I would come down? Even if none of my allies were there I would get the stomp. Refer to the very first scene of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxOc51oQmkA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUqFKmVqiOjRdtU2gKWxdd0g . I could have waited longer to port back, but it worked, as it almost always does. Fact is: I got the stomp.

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Posted by: Yam.2891

Yam.2891

best necro NA right here

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Posted by: MethaneGas.8357

MethaneGas.8357

Thank you sir


p.s. [Holy] rocks

p.p.s. Sigil options are added

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Excellent music and even better video. Tagging for future reference and my Necro is only level 42. Lots to learn.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

best necro NA right here

Is renokko on EU server? I would say these 2 guys are the best necros I have seen in wvw.

There is one guy in pvp in the sensotix vids that just plays pvp and he is awesome too but I dont think he does wvw.