Guild Wars 2

Sarrs.4831:

flow.6043:

I use both.

Well trait’s bad.
Banshee’s Wail isn’t horrible but is horribly outclassed by Vamp Aura in most circumstances, even in sPvP where it’s at its least powerful.
Fair enough if you’re playing fun/dorky builds but it’s not really fit for purpose.

Oh, the irony…
You’re accusing me of using a “fun/dorky” build when this whole time you’ve been defending a Magi/Zealot/Mender Unholy Sanctuary build.

You already made it pretty obvious how unexperienced you are in your earlier posts, but now it’s getting rediculous.

Also, I won’t bother making a detailed response to the rest of your post again.
Every time I counter one of your statements you reply with some incoherent mess that has nothing to do with the original argument.

flow.6043:

Oh, the irony…
You’re accusing me of using a “fun/dorky” build when this whole time you’ve been defending a Magi/Zealot/Mender Unholy Sanctuary build.

No I haven’t, US/BB isn’t viable.
I’ve been describing how you build US/BB to be the most viable it can be.

flow.6043:

You already made it pretty obvious how unexperienced you are in your earlier posts, but now it’s getting rediculous.

Also, I won’t bother making a detailed response to the rest of your post again.
Every time I counter one of your statements you reply with some incoherent mess that has nothing to do with the original argument.

Yeah, because you don’t understand what I’m arguing. I don’t know if you even understand what you’re arguing.

flow.6043:

Muchacho.2390:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Also, Flow, while I agree that Blighter’s Boon does give you superior sustain over Unholy Sanctuary, Unholy Sanctuary also lets you run Shrouded Removal, which is a very strong trait. That’s a large part of why I like US so much.

Yes shrouded removel is really strong but i dont think US is that good. I still think the base healing should be a bit higher (around 200).

That plus a soul comprehnsion rework and deathmagic would finally be good.

Shrouded Removal is by far the strongest trait in Death Magic.
US is too weak, and so is every other non-minion trait in DM.
DM could only ever be a reasonable pick over other specializations if they buffed Deadly Strength, Corruptor’s Fervor, Unholy Sanctuary and completely removed and replaced Putrid Defense, Soul Comprehension and Reaper’s Protection.

As it stands, without minions Death Magic can only give you some mediocre stat buffs and a cleanse.

Well i dont disagree with you but i just tend to look mainly at soul comprehension and US. They tick me off, Soul comprehension because it is just bad and US because i wanna like it but if i take it i feel terrible…

For the other traits you mentioned i kinda dont care…

Crackers.9628:

I chuckled when I read this. As a thief, whenever I encounter newer players playing necro it takes me ages to kill him because they’re such damage sponses. When I see a Necro I sigh a little because I know whatever their skill, it’s probably not even worth killing them, cause it even with insane thief dps it takes so frigging long, whereas I make one mistake and I’m dead. How this is considered high skill floor is beyond me. Dying on a necro the hardest part of playing it.

You know that thief hard counters necro, right? And I’m not a salty necro main saying this – I’ve got 4k+ hours in the thief profession.

Even moreso Daredevil vs Reaper. A truly good Daredevil should absolutely never lose to any reaper in a 1v1.

flow.6043:

Crackers.9628:

flow.6043:

Spoken like someone who’s never played necro before.

Also, if it takes you ages to kill new players your real problem isn’t with the class.

Killing new players takes a couple seconds with other classes (bar invuln skills) but with necro it still takes a long time.

Also, you can’t tell me a class that has 4 AoE’s in 1 weapon is hard in PvP where everyone is in one spot.

Lol. You think a class’ strength in PvP is determined by how many aoe skills there are on a weapon set?

At first I thought you just haven’t played necro, but now I’m thinking you might not have even played this entire game at all.

I never said anything about strength, only about ease of use. Also please stop attacking my person, not every post has to go paired with an ad hominem, it doesn’t add anything to keep trying to downplay me.

DeceiverX.8361:

Crackers.9628:

I chuckled when I read this. As a thief, whenever I encounter newer players playing necro it takes me ages to kill him because they’re such damage sponses. When I see a Necro I sigh a little because I know whatever their skill, it’s probably not even worth killing them, cause it even with insane thief dps it takes so frigging long, whereas I make one mistake and I’m dead. How this is considered high skill floor is beyond me. Dying on a necro the hardest part of playing it.

You know that thief hard counters necro, right? And I’m not a salty necro main saying this – I’ve got 4k+ hours in the thief profession.

Even moreso Daredevil vs Reaper. A truly good Daredevil should absolutely never lose to any reaper in a 1v1.

I guess each to their own. Playing necro in wvw, daredevil is one of the few professions I rarely have a problem with fighting. I guess you’re talking more spvp?

Lahmia.2193:

I guess each to their own. Playing necro in wvw, daredevil is one of the few professions I rarely have a problem with fighting. I guess you’re talking more spvp?

Good daredevils won’t lose to necros/reapers. The cast times and the evade frames make it a very hard fight for necros. Add in pulmonary impact and you’ve got a dead necro unless they’re playing very well. Equal baseline skill, thief has a good matchup against necro. Most of the time a necro win is more related to the thief being impatient and making mistakes than the necro making plays.

Crackers.9628:

flow.6043:

Crackers.9628:

Also, you can’t tell me a class that has 4 AoE’s in 1 weapon is hard in PvP where everyone is in one spot.

You think a class’ strength in PvP is determined by how many aoe skills there are on a weapon set?

I never said anything about strength, only about ease of use.

???

Are you saying necros are weak but easy to play because you can tag a lot of targets on capture points?

And why would you even bring up aoe in PvP when you think it has no bearing on the strength of the class?

Crackers.9628:

Also please stop attacking my person, not every post has to go paired with an ad hominem, it doesn’t add anything to keep trying to downplay me.

I didn’t attack you personally, I just called you out on your bad arguments.

flow.6043:

I didn’t attack you personally, I just called you out on your bad arguments.

You are not addressing his arguments. You are attacking his experience by suggesting he has not played the game. Textbook ad hominem.

I did adress his arguments. And concluding that he lacks experience because of the arguments he made wasn’t an attack, but an observation.

I have issues with necro as it is a class that lacks A LOT but after talking and seeing other point of views, specially flow, i got in a g arena with him and duelled him a lot of times. i can say his builds works really well amd better than what i was using before, and feels a bit more confortable in wvw than in spvp. i advi e you to try the same, for what i know he s up for duels and so am i using his build with 1 or 2 changes that i prefer. I had to be proven wrong and i was, my build was more power pve oriented. This being said try a similar build that we use and then come back to say it isnt more confortable/better.

Mikhael.2391:

I have issues with necro as it is a class that lacks A LOT but after talking and seeing other point of views, specially flow, i got in a g arena with him and duelled him a lot of times. i can say his builds works really well amd better than what i was using before, and feels a bit more confortable in wvw than in spvp. i advi e you to try the same, for what i know he s up for duels and so am i using his build with 1 or 2 changes that i prefer. I had to be proven wrong and i was, my build was more power pve oriented. This being said try a similar build that we use and then come back to say it isnt more confortable/better.

what was the build(s)?

I think flow has it on one of his posts. IM on my smartphone now and cant link it.

Sigmoid.7082:

Mikhael.2391:

I have issues with necro as it is a class that lacks A LOT but after talking and seeing other point of views, specially flow, i got in a g arena with him and duelled him a lot of times. i can say his builds works really well amd better than what i was using before, and feels a bit more confortable in wvw than in spvp. i advi e you to try the same, for what i know he s up for duels and so am i using his build with 1 or 2 changes that i prefer. I had to be proven wrong and i was, my build was more power pve oriented. This being said try a similar build that we use and then come back to say it isnt more confortable/better.

what was the build(s)?

Curses nec should do the trick most of the time

Sigmoid.7082:

what was the build(s)?

Here you go. Destroyer amulet in pvp.