Zerker thieves aren’t meant to fight 1v1. They only win 1v1 against other thieves and mesmers.
Huh?
Correction, zerker thief can and should hunt other zerkers but not others and should focus on caping/decaping,+1 the fights that you can’t win or take too long to win which are most likely vs non zerkers.
“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140 The Dhuumfire thread
Power necro is pretty nice in solo, I like to think I do well with it. It is hit or miss though, I very rarely get fights that are drawn out, either I melt the person or I get CCed to death. I started doing a lot better with it once I moved away from the DS LB builds honestly. Just about everything I went after out healed the blasts or just blinded me. For solo, necro away.
and what is there other then ds lb builds for power? dont you spec anything into sr?
Power necro is pretty nice in solo, I like to think I do well with it. It is hit or miss though, I very rarely get fights that are drawn out, either I melt the person or I get CCed to death. I started doing a lot better with it once I moved away from the DS LB builds honestly. Just about everything I went after out healed the blasts or just blinded me. For solo, necro away.
and what is there other then ds lb builds for power? dont you spec anything into sr?
All you should spec into SR is 4 points for near to death and vital persistance/spectral mastery. It appears this guy learned the hard way the problem with depending on life blasts.
Power necro is pretty nice in solo, I like to think I do well with it. It is hit or miss though, I very rarely get fights that are drawn out, either I melt the person or I get CCed to death. I started doing a lot better with it once I moved away from the DS LB builds honestly. Just about everything I went after out healed the blasts or just blinded me. For solo, necro away.
and what is there other then ds lb builds for power? dont you spec anything into sr?
All you should spec into SR is 4 points for near to death and vital persistance/spectral mastery. It appears this guy learned the hard way the problem with depending on life blasts.
Your not in the position to be making blanket statements About a class that it has become clearer and clearer you are very inexperienced with in pvp. As a power necro you should be relying on lifeblast and your 50% crit chance increase. The trick is not just spamming then into someone blocking and reflecting. Try counting dodges. You can also dodge mid lifeblast.
Alot of you keep trying to say kitten like “we’ll that’s because you used the cookie cutter build if you used my build you wouldn’t have that problem”
Get outta the kittening hotjoins, play a tournament.
We are either glass power or glass condi. There is no tanky, we are inherently tanky due to Our class mechanic and high health pool. Learning to play with all that extra defense that barely helps gives you bad habits, your not as focused on dodging and your dps is awful.
People don’t use meta builds because they don’t know how to make a build they use them because they have been battles tested.
Attention Moderators I am not
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I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
Power necro is pretty nice in solo, I like to think I do well with it. It is hit or miss though, I very rarely get fights that are drawn out, either I melt the person or I get CCed to death. I started doing a lot better with it once I moved away from the DS LB builds honestly. Just about everything I went after out healed the blasts or just blinded me. For solo, necro away.
and what is there other then ds lb builds for power? dont you spec anything into sr?
All you should spec into SR is 4 points for near to death and vital persistance/spectral mastery. It appears this guy learned the hard way the problem with depending on life blasts.
Your not in the position to be making blanket statements About a class that it has become clearer and clearer you are very inexperienced with in pvp. As a power necro you should be relying on lifeblast and your 50% crit chance increase. The trick is not just spamming then into someone blocking and reflecting. Try counting dodges. You can also dodge mid lifeblast.
Alot of you keep trying to say kitten like “we’ll that’s because you used the cookie cutter build if you used my build you wouldn’t have that problem”
Get outta the kittening hotjoins, play a tournament.
We are either glass power or glass condi. There is no tanky, we are inherently tanky due to Our class mechanic and high health pool. Learning to play with all that extra defense that barely helps gives you bad habits, your not as focused on dodging and your dps is awful.
People don’t use meta builds because they don’t know how to make a build they use them because they have been battles tested.
I swear if i didnt know any better i would think you just started playing pvp. Please watch these and let me know if you honestly think an immobile class like necro should be going glass when almost all our high damage skills have long cast times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESO_mDzxUg8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG0GgzBY5Cg
Ive been playing pvp for a long time man and ive tried any number of builds and amulets. Dps glass, condi glass, evade, siphon, wells. even power tanks using soldiers ammy then maxing out curses and using sigil of accuracy for crit and fury . Except the build i run now, they all had the problem of either not doing enough damage or taking too much damage from classes that can avoid damage then burst or in the case of warrior, die from relentless attacks and CC chain.
A lot of necros are seeing the same problems now. Necros these days don’t even use pure zerker anymore but zerker and knights or captain in wvw.
Please watch these and let me know if you honestly think an immobile class like necro should be going glass when almost all our high damage skills have long cast times.
I haven’t watched the videos yet but I can tell you what the problem is right now:
You need to understand 2 things.
1. A rabid, carrion or even a zerker amulet does not make a necro glassy. They just don’t.
2. Stats are in no way related to the necro’s lack of sustain issues.
You could slap on a nomads amulet and you would still die to the same team focus fire like any other necro build. Actually, you’d probably do worse because your damage would be so low that you can’t kill anyone, so you’d just be a sitting duck.
Kill them before they kill you, that’s all you can hope for.
Also, the whole “zerkers can’t 1v1”-debate here is rediculous. Are we playing the same game? There are tons of extremely good full zerker dueling specs spread over all classes, and anyone who says otherwise has just played against bad opponents.
Ok, so now I’ve watched them. I honestly have no ideo what point you are trying to make by refering to those clips?
Forsaker is a decent necro, and in this video it should become very apparent to you why they won some of the team fights with him using a zerker amulet instead of knights or soldiers or having 6 points in Death Magic.
The second guy… I can’t even…
At the very first encounter it takes him almost 10 seconds of spamming skills and even going into Plague until he realizes that the warrior had Berserker Stance up the entire time. Or look at 4:24, he starts a 2v1 with a thief and casts Well of Power while both of them were at full hp and didn’t have a single condition on them.
And that was just the tip of the iceberg, he is clearly a beginner to the class.
I don’t want to offend that guy, whoever he is, but this video can hardly be referenced to make a point about balancing.
Power necro is pretty nice in solo, I like to think I do well with it. It is hit or miss though, I very rarely get fights that are drawn out, either I melt the person or I get CCed to death. I started doing a lot better with it once I moved away from the DS LB builds honestly. Just about everything I went after out healed the blasts or just blinded me. For solo, necro away.
and what is there other then ds lb builds for power? dont you spec anything into sr?
All you should spec into SR is 4 points for near to death and vital persistance/spectral mastery. It appears this guy learned the hard way the problem with depending on life blasts.
Your not in the position to be making blanket statements About a class that it has become clearer and clearer you are very inexperienced with in pvp. As a power necro you should be relying on lifeblast and your 50% crit chance increase. The trick is not just spamming then into someone blocking and reflecting. Try counting dodges. You can also dodge mid lifeblast.
Alot of you keep trying to say kitten like “we’ll that’s because you used the cookie cutter build if you used my build you wouldn’t have that problem”
Get outta the kittening hotjoins, play a tournament.
We are either glass power or glass condi. There is no tanky, we are inherently tanky due to Our class mechanic and high health pool. Learning to play with all that extra defense that barely helps gives you bad habits, your not as focused on dodging and your dps is awful.
People don’t use meta builds because they don’t know how to make a build they use them because they have been battles tested.
I swear if i didnt know any better i would think you just started playing pvp. Please watch these and let me know if you honestly think an immobile class like necro should be going glass when almost all our high damage skills have long cast times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESO_mDzxUg8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG0GgzBY5Cg
Ive been playing pvp for a long time man and ive tried any number of builds and amulets. Dps glass, condi glass, evade, siphon, wells. even power tanks using soldiers ammy then maxing out curses and using sigil of accuracy for crit and fury . Except the build i run now, they all had the problem of either not doing enough damage or taking too much damage from classes that can avoid damage then burst or in the case of warrior, die from relentless attacks and CC chain.
A lot of necros are seeing the same problems now. Necros these days don’t even use pure zerker anymore but zerker and knights or captain in wvw.
Not that it means much but I cannot find you on the pre Dec 16 leaderboards at all. Anyone that pvped made it onto that…… so I’m guessing your the new one?
playing hotjoins and playing agaisnt real teams are two different animals.
For kittens and giggles I run around on a rampagers signet necro and I can wreck people. I would never recommend the build to anyone. Hell the other day I ran around on a MM zerk build specifically made to suicide myself… I was wrecking people… but it’s hotjoin….. even took it into unranked still wrecked. Player skill > build but build maximizes player skill utilized. Just because I used some dumb builds in hotjoin doesn’t mean I would come on her recommending there use it over meta builds claiming it is just as good.
Attention Moderators I am not
S P E E D Starr #0 Necro NA or
I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
Power necro is pretty nice in solo, I like to think I do well with it. It is hit or miss though, I very rarely get fights that are drawn out, either I melt the person or I get CCed to death. I started doing a lot better with it once I moved away from the DS LB builds honestly. Just about everything I went after out healed the blasts or just blinded me. For solo, necro away.
and what is there other then ds lb builds for power? dont you spec anything into sr?
All you should spec into SR is 4 points for near to death and vital persistance/spectral mastery. It appears this guy learned the hard way the problem with depending on life blasts.
Your not in the position to be making blanket statements About a class that it has become clearer and clearer you are very inexperienced with in pvp. As a power necro you should be relying on lifeblast and your 50% crit chance increase. The trick is not just spamming then into someone blocking and reflecting. Try counting dodges. You can also dodge mid lifeblast.
Alot of you keep trying to say kitten like “we’ll that’s because you used the cookie cutter build if you used my build you wouldn’t have that problem”
Get outta the kittening hotjoins, play a tournament.
We are either glass power or glass condi. There is no tanky, we are inherently tanky due to Our class mechanic and high health pool. Learning to play with all that extra defense that barely helps gives you bad habits, your not as focused on dodging and your dps is awful.
People don’t use meta builds because they don’t know how to make a build they use them because they have been battles tested.
I swear if i didnt know any better i would think you just started playing pvp. Please watch these and let me know if you honestly think an immobile class like necro should be going glass when almost all our high damage skills have long cast times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESO_mDzxUg8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG0GgzBY5Cg
Ive been playing pvp for a long time man and ive tried any number of builds and amulets. Dps glass, condi glass, evade, siphon, wells. even power tanks using soldiers ammy then maxing out curses and using sigil of accuracy for crit and fury . Except the build i run now, they all had the problem of either not doing enough damage or taking too much damage from classes that can avoid damage then burst or in the case of warrior, die from relentless attacks and CC chain.
A lot of necros are seeing the same problems now. Necros these days don’t even use pure zerker anymore but zerker and knights or captain in wvw.
Not that it means much but I cannot find you on the pre Dec 16 leaderboards at all. Anyone that pvped made it onto that…… so I’m guessing your the new one?
playing hotjoins and playing agaisnt real teams are two different animals.
For kittens and giggles I run around on a rampagers signet necro and I can wreck people. I would never recommend the build to anyone. Hell the other day I ran around on a MM zerk build specifically made to suicide myself… I was wrecking people… but it’s hotjoin….. even took it into unranked still wrecked. Player skill > build but build maximizes player skill utilized. Just because I used some dumb builds in hotjoin doesn’t mean I would come on her recommending there use it over meta builds claiming it is just as good.
Lol dragon rank = newb #logic. don’t worry about my standings dude, i really dont care about it. I simply dont play 300 ranked games per week. I can stay in practice mode for days just because of the no queue time. I only play ranked if i havent come across dragon level players in a while.
most necro have accepted or are in the process of accepting the issues and many limitations of full glass, you should too. I hope you don’t one day join NoS and take carrion to a tournament expecting to be shielded, I will happily greet you with my thief.
Lol dragon rank = newb #logic. don’t worry about my standings dude, i really dont care about it. I simply dont play 300 ranked games per week. I can stay in practice mode for days just because of the no queue time. I only play ranked if i havent come across dragon level players in a while.
You know… I was really trying to take you seriously, but now you’re telling us that having a dragon finisher means something?
A lot of necros are seeing the same problems now. Necros these days don’t even use pure zerker anymore but zerker and knights or captain in wvw.
…
most necro have accepted or are in the process of accepting the issues and many limitations of full glass, you should too. I hope you don’t one day join NoS and take carrion to a tournament expecting to be shielded, I will happily greet you with my thief.
Your delusion about carrion stats are starting to get comical.
And who are those many necros who are having this same revelation as you did?
I thought I was somewhat involved in the necro community, both on the forum and in-game, but I swear you are the first person I’ve heard saying those things.
Now, I really hope you are on EU because if so I’d like to challenge your thief with my carrion necro.
Lol dragon rank = newb #logic. don’t worry about my standings dude, i really dont care about it. I simply dont play 300 ranked games per week. I can stay in practice mode for days just because of the no queue time. I only play ranked if i havent come across dragon level players in a while.
You know… I was really trying to take you seriously, but now you’re telling us that having a dragon finisher means something?
A lot of necros are seeing the same problems now. Necros these days don’t even use pure zerker anymore but zerker and knights or captain in wvw.
…
most necro have accepted or are in the process of accepting the issues and many limitations of full glass, you should too. I hope you don’t one day join NoS and take carrion to a tournament expecting to be shielded, I will happily greet you with my thief.
Your delusion about carrion stats are starting to get comical.
And who are those many necros who are having this same revelation as you did?
I thought I was somewhat involved in the necro community, both on the forum and in-game, but I swear you are the first person I’ve heard saying those things.
Now, I really hope you are on EU because if so I’d like to challenge your thief with my carrion necro.
Grinding to dragon in hotjoins or custom arenas does not make you good, skilled, or knowledgable. Hotjoin is completely different in so many ways from unranked or ranked it’s not really the same discussion. Either way I think I see why you have such skewed views of necros in Pvp.
To OP, you can make power necro work if you work at it. Just don’t expect it to not be a bumpy ride from time to time.
Grinding to dragon in hotjoins or custom arenas does not make you good, skilled, or knowledgable. Hotjoin is completely different in so many ways from unranked or ranked it’s not really the same discussion. Either way I think I see why you have such skewed views of necros in Pvp.
To OP, you can make power necro work if you work at it. Just don’t expect it to not be a bumpy ride from time to time.
grinding? lol i hate grinding, was pretty big on actual matches when leveling. Not so much now for some reason.
Grinding to dragon in hotjoins or custom arenas does not make you good, skilled, or knowledgable. Hotjoin is completely different in so many ways from unranked or ranked it’s not really the same discussion. Either way I think I see why you have such skewed views of necros in Pvp.
To OP, you can make power necro work if you work at it. Just don’t expect it to not be a bumpy ride from time to time.
grinding? lol i hate grinding, was pretty big on actual matches when leveling. Not so much now for some reason.
I’m not sure I understand what you mean, especially since you aren’t on the old leaderboards.
Power necro is pretty nice in solo, I like to think I do well with it. It is hit or miss though, I very rarely get fights that are drawn out, either I melt the person or I get CCed to death. I started doing a lot better with it once I moved away from the DS LB builds honestly. Just about everything I went after out healed the blasts or just blinded me. For solo, necro away.
and what is there other then ds lb builds for power? dont you spec anything into sr?
All you should spec into SR is 4 points for near to death and vital persistance/spectral mastery. It appears this guy learned the hard way the problem with depending on life blasts.
Your not in the position to be making blanket statements About a class that it has become clearer and clearer you are very inexperienced with in pvp. As a power necro you should be relying on lifeblast and your 50% crit chance increase. The trick is not just spamming then into someone blocking and reflecting. Try counting dodges. You can also dodge mid lifeblast.
Alot of you keep trying to say kitten like “we’ll that’s because you used the cookie cutter build if you used my build you wouldn’t have that problem”
Get outta the kittening hotjoins, play a tournament.
We are either glass power or glass condi. There is no tanky, we are inherently tanky due to Our class mechanic and high health pool. Learning to play with all that extra defense that barely helps gives you bad habits, your not as focused on dodging and your dps is awful.
People don’t use meta builds because they don’t know how to make a build they use them because they have been battles tested.
I swear if i didnt know any better i would think you just started playing pvp. Please watch these and let me know if you honestly think an immobile class like necro should be going glass when almost all our high damage skills have long cast times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESO_mDzxUg8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG0GgzBY5Cg
Ive been playing pvp for a long time man and ive tried any number of builds and amulets. Dps glass, condi glass, evade, siphon, wells. even power tanks using soldiers ammy then maxing out curses and using sigil of accuracy for crit and fury . Except the build i run now, they all had the problem of either not doing enough damage or taking too much damage from classes that can avoid damage then burst or in the case of warrior, die from relentless attacks and CC chain.
A lot of necros are seeing the same problems now. Necros these days don’t even use pure zerker anymore but zerker and knights or captain in wvw.
Not that it means much but I cannot find you on the pre Dec 16 leaderboards at all. Anyone that pvped made it onto that…… so I’m guessing your the new one?
playing hotjoins and playing agaisnt real teams are two different animals.
For kittens and giggles I run around on a rampagers signet necro and I can wreck people. I would never recommend the build to anyone. Hell the other day I ran around on a MM zerk build specifically made to suicide myself… I was wrecking people… but it’s hotjoin….. even took it into unranked still wrecked. Player skill > build but build maximizes player skill utilized. Just because I used some dumb builds in hotjoin doesn’t mean I would come on her recommending there use it over meta builds claiming it is just as good.
Lol dragon rank = newb #logic. don’t worry about my standings dude, i really dont care about it. I simply dont play 300 ranked games per week. I can stay in practice mode for days just because of the no queue time. I only play ranked if i havent come across dragon level players in a while.
most necro have accepted or are in the process of accepting the issues and many limitations of full glass, you should too. I hope you don’t one day join NoS and take carrion to a tournament expecting to be shielded, I will happily greet you with my thief.
The pre Dec 16 leaderboards weren’t about grinding you literally just need a win against some with a high mmr to make it. But you didn’t manage that. So either hotjoin hero or bad.
Attention Moderators I am not
S P E E D Starr #0 Necro NA or
I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
The pre Dec 16 leaderboards weren’t about grinding you literally just need a win against some with a high mmr to make it. But you didn’t manage that. So either hotjoin hero or bad.
Eh.. i really couldnt care less… cuz in the end i know my skill level in the grand scheme of things, i know what gets my kitten kicked and what doesnt.
Just dueled another zerker meta necro a few times who wasnt half bad, except…he was zerker and using a staff. Got him to switch to knights and voila lasted a whole lot longer while doing dangerous pressure damage. If he dropped the staff and took daggers and warhorn and we dueled again, i might actually be forced to use stealth.
If i can get the meta to change to knights and necros are benefiting from it, i think it would be a personal accomplishment. I’d like to see necros be feared on arrival like thieves.
The pre Dec 16 leaderboards weren’t about grinding you literally just need a win against some with a high mmr to make it. But you didn’t manage that. So either hotjoin hero or bad.
Eh.. i really couldnt care less… cuz in the end i know my skill level in the grand scheme of things, i know what gets my kitten kicked and what doesnt.
Just dueled another zerker meta necro a few times who wasnt half bad, except…he was zerker and using a staff. Got him to switch to knights and voila lasted a whole lot longer while doing dangerous pressure damage. If he dropped the staff and took daggers and warhorn and we dueled again, i might actually be forced to use stealth.
If i can get the meta to change to knights and necros are benefiting from it, i think it would be a personal accomplishment. I’d like to see necros be feared on arrival like thieves.
You sir are probably the best troll these necromancer forums have ever seen… knights… haha hahah what a real knee slapper.
Attention Moderators I am not
S P E E D Starr #0 Necro NA or
I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
Grinding to dragon in hotjoins or custom arenas does not make you good, skilled, or knowledgable. Hotjoin is completely different in so many ways from unranked or ranked it’s not really the same discussion. Either way I think I see why you have such skewed views of necros in Pvp.
To OP, you can make power necro work if you work at it. Just don’t expect it to not be a bumpy ride from time to time.
I’ve made it to work. Working hard and in the top 40-50 range EU solo playing only power necromancer. It’s very hard now facing a lot of good meta class players/premades.
When i see enemy comp is something like Double turret, Elementalist, Guardian + ( insert class here ) or something like that. I’m like oh kitten. The random team i get usually not able to kill this comp. Our random team can’t do enough dps to kill anyone. Elementalist and DPS Guardian ( and maybe the “insert class” too. ) is on me 24/7
Just dueled another zerker meta necro a few times who wasnt half bad, except…he was zerker and using a staff. Got him to switch to knights and voila lasted a whole lot longer while doing dangerous pressure damage. If he dropped the staff and took daggers and warhorn and we dueled again, i might actually be forced to use stealth.
If i can get the meta to change to knights and necros are benefiting from it, i think it would be a personal accomplishment.
So you were fighting the worst necro you could find, in fact he was so bad that you as thief didn’t even need stealth to beat him. And that guy died less quickly with more toughness? Incredible! I’d say you’re about half way done establishing a new meta.
I’d like to see necros be feared on arrival like thieves.
Oh man, I really want to fight your thief, and I’m secretely hoping that you are as good as you say because from my experience thieves are rarely ever a challenge for necros.
Just dueled another zerker meta necro a few times who wasnt half bad, except…he was zerker and using a staff. Got him to switch to knights and voila lasted a whole lot longer while doing dangerous pressure damage. If he dropped the staff and took daggers and warhorn and we dueled again, i might actually be forced to use stealth.
If i can get the meta to change to knights and necros are benefiting from it, i think it would be a personal accomplishment.
So you were fighting the worst necro you could find, in fact he was so bad that you as thief didn’t even need stealth to beat him. And that guy died less quickly with more toughness? Incredible! I’d say you’re about half way done establishing a new meta.
I’d like to see necros be feared on arrival like thieves.
Oh man, I really want to fight your thief, and I’m secretely hoping that you are as good as you say because from my experience thieves are rarely ever a challenge for necros.
My thief just works against glass necros, its not a skill matter, its the mobility. I can’t guarantee the same thing with all mesmers even though they say thieves counter mesmers, have had quite the headache with some good ones.
If you know someone good in NA i can duel him/her in your place
My thief just works against glass necros, its not a skill matter, its the mobility.
The reason I wanted to duel you is to show you that amulet stats don’t make a necro glassy. And that beating a thief is not about your armor value but mostly about skill timing, and to a lesser extent utility/traits/sigils etc. So yes, it’s definitely a skill matter.
After trying out Captain and Knights runes, I’ve come to the conclusion that the added defensive stats do absolutely nothing for a power necro. The primary cause of death for me is being chain CC’d and focused, and the amount of defense given by those runes is nowhere near enough to survive that. And if I’m dying anyway, I might as well keep those stats in offense.
Necro has very long cd’s on healing and heals for very little. Prolonging a fight with toughness stats is virtually the last thing he wants to do, any class can outlast/attrition a necromancer.
It’s why necros go very offensive, once you don’t get the luxury of starting at a full life force bar and someone can reset the fight on you with low life force, you’re going to have a rough time.
It’s so amusing that Jonathan Sharp defined necro as an attrition class that’s got little mobility but can chase well and keep a target in combat when the reality is anyone can outsustain and outrun a necro lol.
After trying out Captain and Knights runes, I’ve come to the conclusion that the added defensive stats do absolutely nothing for a power necro. The primary cause of death for me is being chain CC’d and focused, and the amount of defense given by those runes is nowhere near enough to survive that. And if I’m dying anyway, I might as well keep those stats in offense.
somewhere around 3000 armour was where i started noticing the benefits in pvp. In WvW i believe its 2600 without sacrificing too much damage.
The armour just allowed me to respond to changing fights and chip damage without constantly worrying about getting 1 shotted. For instance back stab a light rmour golem and a heavy armour golem, you are getting the same reductions.
Focus and CC chains kill any build but at least the armour usually allows me to take them for a few more seconds if i need to or port with wurm once it hits.
I recently switched back to zerker necro meta just to make sure i wasn’t delusional. The damage in balanced fights was really nice 7k Axe chanels, 4k chill of death procs almost made me want to stay with the build then i quickly realized why i switched when fights would change frequently and you can’t do much about it because all the chip damage gets you low on health.
Current high armour power build lets me fight for days and still kill through sheer pressure. I’m fighting a ranger, ele shows up?no problem while thats happening i spy a mesmer approaching? no problem. When they appear one at a time like that the build can handle it a whole lot better than zerker.
After trying out Captain and Knights runes, I’ve come to the conclusion that the added defensive stats do absolutely nothing for a power necro. The primary cause of death for me is being chain CC’d and focused, and the amount of defense given by those runes is nowhere near enough to survive that. And if I’m dying anyway, I might as well keep those stats in offense.
somewhere around 3000 armour was where i started noticing the benefits in pvp. In WvW i believe its 2600 without sacrificing too much damage.
I’d post a rebuttal but Czerny already wrote everything there is to say.
Focus and CC chains kill any build but at least the armour usually allows me to take them for a few more seconds if i need to or port with wurm once it hits.
So… a few more seconds until you die… and that is better why?
And how does having a wurm port available make your armor value relevant?
You know, most of what you write just makes me think that you don’t know how to use Death Shroud.
And you for sure have never heard that vitality scales better with life force than toughness, which makes vitality a better defensive stat even against nothing but direct damage because necros have so much more access to lf regen than regular healing.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to hearing from your duel with NeXeD.
I’ve tried like every survivability build for powernecro and none of them as good as the squishy zerker with ogre runes. If you want survivability/mobility/being able to outlast and defend points better. than reroll any of the meta professions. there are no point to kitten your necro with some more armor or 3-4k health. you will die anyway in the next hit 1sec later and also you cant kill anyone with your kitten necro so your damage is close to useless for your team.
Most of the times, a power necro does exactly what people are saying, jump into a fight to nuke everybody for your team. I have discovered that when you play power necro for a while, this is not all you can do. If you get good, you can shred people apart 1v1 and 1v2. I practiced bunking as a pure glass 6/2/0/0/6 necro in soloq, and realized that I can nuke 2 people so hard they don’t have time to do damage, they have to fall back and heal. At this point I switch to staff (I run dagger/warhorn and staff, even though it’s wierd). Then fear, chill/poison and use staff 4 than life blast them and they all melt. It is pretty great and very fun if you get good at it.
Moral of the story: necro is good in pvp.
Yeah being able to stand back and AoE nuke the point is the necro’s strength. I think th r biggest challenge is just getting your positioning correct so that anyone who tunnels you gets punished hard by your team. I swapped out my dagger for an axe to keep a bit of range and not have to run onto the point to out out some nice direct damage.
