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Posted by: knbBlackTemplar.3059

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It’s impossible, aggro is 100% time on me and i don’t have enough endurance (even with food) to dodge everything he cast, i don’t have evade or block.

Only way i see here (except hoping team do it without me) – farm arah on warrior =_=

And if he catch me in field – only one stability i have on elite with high cd

(I know, it’s possible if use sigil of energy and doing only right dodges, but way harder than warrior with extra dodge, signet with endurance regen, vigor, stability)

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Considering someone solo’d Lupi, I’m assuming you can 5v1 him.

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Posted by: Molch.2078

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So what? Whats the purpose of this thread? Want any protipps? Get Zerkergear, use Dagger and search for a decent team.

If not, then just follow your own suggestion and buy a signet of energy. Or two.

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Posted by: Afya.5842

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I don’t run arah with my necro anymore. It’s a chore compare to other classes. And I refuse to buy 2 weapons, 2 sigils, food, and retrait 30 points in SR for one boss.

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I don’t run arah with my necro anymore. It’s a chore compare to other classes. And I refuse to buy 2 weapons, 2 sigils, food, and retrait 30 points in SR for one boss.

You don’t see people complain about having to change gear and traits for SAB, but when it comes to arah.. I don’t get why you’d have a problem with it.

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I don’t run arah with my necro anymore. It’s a chore compare to other classes. And I refuse to buy 2 weapons, 2 sigils, food, and retrait 30 points in SR for one boss.

You don’t see people complain about having to change gear and traits for SAB, but when it comes to arah.. I don’t get why you’d have a problem with it.

Change gear and trait for SAB????

Retraiting is ok, but only to the point of changing the master traits. And changing utility, maybe part of the weapon set (for the skills, not for the sigil). Imo, it shouldn’t require you to go out of dungeon, go to LA, retrait, and come back. I don’t understand how one can think it is fine for necro to have 2 energy sigils for half the time in pve. And having to buy specific type of food to stay alive while other classes can have their food of choice to boost dps.

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Posted by: Ceribrocanasans.4135

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I don’t run arah with my necro anymore. It’s a chore compare to other classes. And I refuse to buy 2 weapons, 2 sigils, food, and retrait 30 points in SR for one boss.

You don’t see people complain about having to change gear and traits for SAB, but when it comes to arah.. I don’t get why you’d have a problem with it.

Change gear and trait for SAB????

Retraiting is ok, but only to the point of changing the master traits. And changing utility, maybe part of the weapon set (for the skills, not for the sigil). Imo, it shouldn’t require you to go out of dungeon, go to LA, retrait, and come back. I don’t understand how one can think it is fine for necro to have 2 energy sigils for half the time in pve. And having to buy specific type of food to stay alive while other classes can have their food of choice to boost dps.

You not dead will boost your dps. Food is just a bonus. You can keep energy weapons in your bag, you don’t have to wear them.
You’re bad if you run SAB with an un-optomized build.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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I’m so confused. Are you seriously suggesting that you change your traits to do Super Adventure Box????

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Posted by: Afya.5842

Afya.5842

I don’t run arah with my necro anymore. It’s a chore compare to other classes. And I refuse to buy 2 weapons, 2 sigils, food, and retrait 30 points in SR for one boss.

You don’t see people complain about having to change gear and traits for SAB, but when it comes to arah.. I don’t get why you’d have a problem with it.

Change gear and trait for SAB????

Retraiting is ok, but only to the point of changing the master traits. And changing utility, maybe part of the weapon set (for the skills, not for the sigil). Imo, it shouldn’t require you to go out of dungeon, go to LA, retrait, and come back. I don’t understand how one can think it is fine for necro to have 2 energy sigils for half the time in pve. And having to buy specific type of food to stay alive while other classes can have their food of choice to boost dps.

You not dead will boost your dps. Food is just a bonus. You can keep energy weapons in your bag, you don’t have to wear them.
You’re bad if you run SAB with an un-optomized build.

I’m sorry, I can’t agree with that. I just don’t agree having two extra weapon should be a necessity to go pass arah for every necro out there. Might as well add a shield there, can only be damaged by condition gear. You can keep the gear in your bag too, right?

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Posted by: Zogyark.4597

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Don’t need energy sigils on your weapons when in group. I two manned it a while ago and forgot to put energy weapons on so I’m sure it’s even easier with a group.

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Posted by: Ceribrocanasans.4135

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I use a warrior. Armor to use for SAB is berserker with scholar runes because that’s what you use for pve. I usually run 30/25/0/0/15, so I only have to swap out the first major for less fall damage. Use undead slaying and night for world 1 and inquest slaying/night for world 2. Food is irrelevant because you can’t eat in a video game.

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Posted by: Ceribrocanasans.4135

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I’m sorry, I can’t agree with that. I just don’t agree having two extra weapon should be a necessity to go pass arah for every necro out there. Might as well add a shield there, can only be damaged by condition gear. You can keep the gear in your bag too, right?

It’s not a necessity. Your limitations are yourself. Not sure what you mean by shield. Maybe you’re suggesting to add a boss mechanic that would make you feel useful.
You can only keep extra weapons in your bag

get it

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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Didn’t the first necro to solo Lupicus use Rabid gear? I know he was Scepter-dagger/ Staff.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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And it took 27 minutes. Compared to emanuels 15min solo with assassin gear and a weird trait setup.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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So? The point is someone was able to solo him in Rabid gear, which shows that OP should be able to handle Lupi 5v1.

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Posted by: Zogyark.4597

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the reason emanuel soloed it faster was because of that cheap charr dodge 15sec cd skill thats godsend for necros on a solo ;p I couldve used a more damaging setup if i had that racial too.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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I attempted to do a solo the other week using my dungeon build. 2 energy sigils and endurance food is all you need. One extra evade will not save 10minutes off of your time, its your build that slowed you down. Anyway a rabid warrior solo’d lupi in 6mins 30seconds.

I dont fully like that he used a racial, and thats why i hope to beat his time without it but I may be a while. Cant solo lupi while recording at the moment, too much lag.

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Posted by: Zogyark.4597

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I attempted to do a solo the other week using my dungeon build. 2 energy sigils and endurance food is all you need. One extra evade will not save 10minutes off of your time, its your build that slowed you down. Anyway a rabid warrior solo’d lupi in 6mins 30seconds.

I dont fully like that he used a racial, and thats why i hope to beat his time without it but I may be a while. Cant solo lupi while recording at the moment, too much lag.

Yes it will because with the extra evade you have flexibility to use a more agressive build and have less room for error? He does his aoe in phase 2? dodge skill then dodge, then DS. phase 3? dodge skill? then dodge, maybe dodge again, switch weapons oh another move, dodge skill is back, dodge. Anyways waiting on your solo without the charr racial.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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Phase 2 is far too easy. Its phase 3 which is the problem. You dont even need to dodge the swipe in p2, just move behind him quickly. Anyway Im hoping DS will be enough to prevent me from downing when i run out of dodges.

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Posted by: Zogyark.4597

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Phase 2 is far too easy. Its phase 3 which is the problem. You dont even need to dodge the swipe in p2, just move behind him quickly. Anyway Im hoping DS will be enough to prevent me from downing when i run out of dodges.

I’ll just paste what i said in the other thread lol

Well I’ll be awaiting your video man, I just don’t like the racial ;p I could easily do it again as a charr necro with a more aggressive build with it but I’m not gonna change my race cause I don’t like charr necro ;p

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Posted by: Lopez.7369

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I have killed him countless times without dying. It’s pretty easy with Plague and Summon Flesh Wurm.

You’re probably over-rolling. You can avoid a lot of red circles just by walking out. Keep that in mind.

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Posted by: knbBlackTemplar.3059

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Well, thanks all. I’ll try harder (or switch to war in case).

But one thing i found playing arah p3 in rabid – toughness let me keep aggro and i can turn hammer-boss whatever i want and i can kite ghosts on last boss)

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Posted by: Brayzz.6524

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Well PvE balance is very bad. while warriors are doing 80k dmg with 1 skill you are kitten with your conditions. Im not playing condition anymore but, even with berzerker gear I get the aggro most of the times because some bosses will just only attack people with ranged weapon and ignore melees(even if you stay in melee range). So sometimes we are forced to use that dumb dagger.

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Posted by: Afya.5842

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So? The point is someone was able to solo him in Rabid gear, which shows that OP should be able to handle Lupi 5v1.

I disagree. It’s all down to who has the aggro. And 5v1 isn’t necessarily easier. I had some runs last week and I keep having to rez my buddies. When 3 of them are completely dead, I and other one just don’t rez anymore and had a much easier time killing lupi.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Ignore them, even if they deal 1 damage each before dying, they’ve made it 4 damage less than you have to deal yourself when fighting Lupi.

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Posted by: Afya.5842

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But they are my friends >_>

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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Ressing while fighting lupi is usually the most dangerous thing you can do. When i 3man arah and one of us goes down in phase 3 we just ignore them unless they are close enough to res without moving out of position (causes a dome). Its better to finish off lupi solo or duo than res and wipe and have to start over.

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