Even if they fix AF there still the fact its a bad spec that serves no purpose, is outclassed by the support options on other classes and has no synergy with the base class.
The celestial form should be like the water attunement for ele. You don’t go in water and expect the little extra dps to finish a fight. You go in water because you needs to get your health back on demand. And that’s what the AF doesnt do correctly… When you or your team needs it, it might be on cd or not even charge. And the most important quality of a healer is to heal on demand… Which is not the case at all atm.
So I would be very happy to have only a cd and no AF generation. Or it could retain AF generation (fixed of course) and function like a Death shroud (enter whenever you want, drains slowly when using it and when you leave, it stays at the level it was and not dropping to 50%).
Overall this new mechanic doesnt make sense at all since the base weapon dont have anything to generate AF like the staff do which is poor implementation of an elite spec.
To me, it sounds like they recruited a hunter/trapper and glued a medic insignas on his forehead.
It’s also compounded given you are a priority target on Druid, so if you are getting trained you are focusing on survival. Kiting is not really conducive to healing the group or doing DPS thus not generating AF, and it seems the healing you give yourself from say Ancestral Grace adds a very minimal amount to your AF.
You can easily be trained down before even generating 50% of your AF.
It’s also compounded given you are a priority target on Druid, so if you are getting trained you are focusing on survival.
Lol. I was kittening around on a settlers bunker druid and after the other team figured out what I was…man. I never got moa-ed so many times before in my life. 2 Engineers and a mesmer. I swear I got hit 5 times in one match.
Didn’t help that I got matched up against them the next round and they knew to train me down the second they saw me.
Apologies for anyone who got stuck with me. I fail at playing support and I probably threw every game I was in.
It builds up very fast in zerg battles, cuz the beam heals and deals up to 3 enemies at the same time. I could use it all the time during events in Verdant Brink.
But in 1 vs 1 and solo play it takes ages as we can see in this vid.
I don’t remember AF draining out of combat in the beta
I think the biggest issue is that the best way to gain AF is to heal others and the best way to heal others is to use AF. Any druid who doesn’t take staff is getting the shaft hard. Just give it a CD or make it more like death shroud because this is quite useless.
I save Ascalon against another Charr invasion, and my father trifles with doors!
well except for the part that I don’t play sPvP I use druid and I find it really fun to play – also for the guy who says that druid have no synergy with base class – I’m sorry to announce to you but you are either blind or were not looking in the first place…
[but then I can perfectly say that the way I use my druidess is… unconvetional – at least I doubt this was what they primarily meangt for thi spec – for example did you know how CAF#3 followed with Caf#5 – heck even CAF#s5 alone – wrecks enemy breakbars? actually recently in most cases thats what I mostly use CAF – to bring their breakbars down….]
“-Shield is meant to be broken!”
“-and on this occasion I keep mine plate armors”
discussion about offensive/deffensive playstyles
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Well, feel free to bring your own video to the table and prove otherwise? Just a thought.
They posted about it so know it is wonky. What that means is unknown at this time because change this and it is worse, change that and it is fine in pve but broke everywhere else, or change this and that and maybe sprinkle a bit of fairy dust over your shoulder and now it is fine everywhere but broke in WvW large scale fights. So now we have to remove it from WvW or put the grand 33% to it…
Main – Laaz Rocket – Guardian (Ehmry Bay)
Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Well, feel free to bring your own video to the table and prove otherwise? Just a thought.
They posted about it so know it is wonky. What that means is unknown at this time because change this and it is worse, change that and it is fine in pve but broke everywhere else, or change this and that and maybe sprinkle a bit of fairy dust over your shoulder and now it is fine everywhere but broke in WvW large scale fights. So now we have to remove it from WvW or put the grand 33% to it…
Ive posted several vids. I could link them here I suppose.
and this is when I started to play around with druid. Learning to balance play and AFG and knowing when to use CF and when to not is occupying me right now. CF is a coffin in 1v1ish type encounters. The enemy will just free-cast into you as you try to selfheal with a heal only weapon skill bar. Sometimes I do pop into CF and Lunar Beam for a quick daze/heal/acient seed proc then pop out. The great thing is, I don’t lose all AF and regenerating AF is easier a second CF repeat. CF is really better at healing other allies when you yourself are not being focused. Hence the aoe healing aspect.
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Well, feel free to bring your own video to the table and prove otherwise? Just a thought.
They posted about it so know it is wonky. What that means is unknown at this time because change this and it is worse, change that and it is fine in pve but broke everywhere else, or change this and that and maybe sprinkle a bit of fairy dust over your shoulder and now it is fine everywhere but broke in WvW large scale fights. So now we have to remove it from WvW or put the grand 33% to it…
Ive posted several vids. I could link them here I suppose.
Well, you got me there.
Not to take away from the videos, by either party, devs did post to say they are looking at it. The only question I have is to what degree of a change are we going to see and in what format of play. Will it be the same or tailored. Personally I don’t like the tailored approach because it never seems to be the same. Raid content is now another balancing act they need to consider. So WvW, sPvP, 5 player dungeons, solo 5 player dungeons, and now raid / 10 players.
Maybe it is time to treat WvW like sPvP and save them some developer bucks and separate all forms of PvE from PvP.
Main – Laaz Rocket – Guardian (Ehmry Bay)
Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Well, feel free to bring your own video to the table and prove otherwise? Just a thought.
They posted about it so know it is wonky. What that means is unknown at this time because change this and it is worse, change that and it is fine in pve but broke everywhere else, or change this and that and maybe sprinkle a bit of fairy dust over your shoulder and now it is fine everywhere but broke in WvW large scale fights. So now we have to remove it from WvW or put the grand 33% to it…
Ive posted several vids. I could link them here I suppose.
Well, you got me there.
Not to take away from the videos, by either party, devs did post to say they are looking at it. The only question I have is to what degree of a change are we going to see and in what format of play. Will it be the same or tailored. Personally I don’t like the tailored approach because it never seems to be the same. Raid content is now another balancing act they need to consider. So WvW, sPvP, 5 player dungeons, solo 5 player dungeons, and now raid / 10 players.
Maybe it is time to treat WvW like sPvP and save them some developer bucks and separate all forms of PvE from PvP.
Hoping they just try a minor tweak and see what happens.
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Well, feel free to bring your own video to the table and prove otherwise? Just a thought.
They posted about it so know it is wonky. What that means is unknown at this time because change this and it is worse, change that and it is fine in pve but broke everywhere else, or change this and that and maybe sprinkle a bit of fairy dust over your shoulder and now it is fine everywhere but broke in WvW large scale fights. So now we have to remove it from WvW or put the grand 33% to it…
Ive posted several vids. I could link them here I suppose.
and this is when I started to play around with druid. Learning to balance play and AFG and knowing when to use CF and when to not is occupying me right now. CF is a coffin in 1v1ish type encounters. The enemy will just free-cast into you as you try to selfheal with a heal only weapon skill bar. Sometimes I do pop into CF and Lunar Beam for a quick daze/heal/acient seed proc then pop out. The great thing is, I don’t lose all AF and regenerating AF is easier a second CF repeat. CF is really better at healing other allies when you yourself are not being focused. Hence the aoe healing aspect.
Speaking to the first video.
If you think that’s acceptable generation then you’re easily impressed. Front line 1 v 5 and CA for 15 secs will be yours!
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Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Well, feel free to bring your own video to the table and prove otherwise? Just a thought.
They posted about it so know it is wonky. What that means is unknown at this time because change this and it is worse, change that and it is fine in pve but broke everywhere else, or change this and that and maybe sprinkle a bit of fairy dust over your shoulder and now it is fine everywhere but broke in WvW large scale fights. So now we have to remove it from WvW or put the grand 33% to it…
Ive posted several vids. I could link them here I suppose.
and this is when I started to play around with druid. Learning to balance play and AFG and knowing when to use CF and when to not is occupying me right now. CF is a coffin in 1v1ish type encounters. The enemy will just free-cast into you as you try to selfheal with a heal only weapon skill bar. Sometimes I do pop into CF and Lunar Beam for a quick daze/heal/acient seed proc then pop out. The great thing is, I don’t lose all AF and regenerating AF is easier a second CF repeat. CF is really better at healing other allies when you yourself are not being focused. Hence the aoe healing aspect.
Speaking to the first video.
If you think that’s acceptable generation then you’re easily impressed. Front line 1 v 5 and CA for 15 secs will be yours!
“this is when I started to play around with druid”
Yeah you almost die refusing to cast your heal skill, which is the type of heal you use above 75% health, and if you had used it you would have been able to use celestial form.
Translation:::
The Drooid is Awesome Guys! Its meant to be used with a healing spec so you ain’t not using it right unless you heal!!! So kitten this video!
Well…yes.
And in a power build, he could have generated enough AF to use CF if he wanted to. But he didn’t want to push heal because it would have negated the whole point of his Pitch-Fork video clearly meant to fuel the Druid-Hate Train.
Well, feel free to bring your own video to the table and prove otherwise? Just a thought.
They posted about it so know it is wonky. What that means is unknown at this time because change this and it is worse, change that and it is fine in pve but broke everywhere else, or change this and that and maybe sprinkle a bit of fairy dust over your shoulder and now it is fine everywhere but broke in WvW large scale fights. So now we have to remove it from WvW or put the grand 33% to it…
Ive posted several vids. I could link them here I suppose.
and this is when I started to play around with druid. Learning to balance play and AFG and knowing when to use CF and when to not is occupying me right now. CF is a coffin in 1v1ish type encounters. The enemy will just free-cast into you as you try to selfheal with a heal only weapon skill bar. Sometimes I do pop into CF and Lunar Beam for a quick daze/heal/acient seed proc then pop out. The great thing is, I don’t lose all AF and regenerating AF is easier a second CF repeat. CF is really better at healing other allies when you yourself are not being focused. Hence the aoe healing aspect.
In the first video, you proved that staff 1 and troll unguent still build astral force faster than anything. Good Job!
In the second video, what are you trying to prove? That Longbow is also good for building Astral Force? …..So? What about Greatsword? Axe? Traps? Sword?
In the third video, you proved that stupid players are stupid. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to stand inside those fire fields like that (which…has nothing to do with druid or staff and can be done with literally any condition build)? Can you show us a video of you playing against a good player?
…In the third video, you proved that stupid players are stupid. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to stand inside those fire fields like that (which…has nothing to do with druid or staff and can be done with literally any condition build)? Can you show us a video of you playing against a good player?
In case you didn’t catch it, that was Justine’s 1st PvP match ever.
Probably not going to see ROM, Five Gauge or Lord Helseth in her videos for a while…
…In the third video, you proved that stupid players are stupid. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to stand inside those fire fields like that (which…has nothing to do with druid or staff and can be done with literally any condition build)? Can you show us a video of you playing against a good player?
In case you didn’t catch it, that was Justine’s 1st PvP match ever.
Probably not going to see ROM, Five Gauge or Lord Helseth in her videos for a while…
didn’t notice really,or care honestly. And I’ll be honest and say that I don’t even play SPvP. All my many hours of fighting against other players is in WvW, and if players here are smart enough to get out of fire fields instead of hitting skill buttons, then people in SPvP should definitely be smart enough there.
…In the third video, you proved that stupid players are stupid. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to stand inside those fire fields like that (which…has nothing to do with druid or staff and can be done with literally any condition build)? Can you show us a video of you playing against a good player?
In case you didn’t catch it, that was Justine’s 1st PvP match ever.
Probably not going to see ROM, Five Gauge or Lord Helseth in her videos for a while…
didn’t notice really,or care honestly. And I’ll be honest and say that I don’t even play SPvP. All my many hours of fighting against other players is in WvW, and if players here are smart enough to get out of fire fields instead of hitting skill buttons, then people in SPvP should definitely be smart enough there.
Well, since you have no clue and are insolent about it, I’ll inform you of why your comments are ignorant. If it was her 1st PvP game, then the MMR will be at the lowest possible, so she would only be matched up with total beginners.
…In the third video, you proved that stupid players are stupid. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to stand inside those fire fields like that (which…has nothing to do with druid or staff and can be done with literally any condition build)? Can you show us a video of you playing against a good player?
In case you didn’t catch it, that was Justine’s 1st PvP match ever.
Probably not going to see ROM, Five Gauge or Lord Helseth in her videos for a while…
didn’t notice really,or care honestly. And I’ll be honest and say that I don’t even play SPvP. All my many hours of fighting against other players is in WvW, and if players here are smart enough to get out of fire fields instead of hitting skill buttons, then people in SPvP should definitely be smart enough there.
Well, since you have no clue and are insolent about it, I’ll inform you of why your comments are ignorant. If it was her 1st PvP game, then the MMR will be at the lowest possible, so she would only be matched up with total beginners.
darn right I’m ignorant about it! I don’t care if its your 1st or 1,000,000th match!
Doesn’t invalidate my original statement. I want to see a video of someone playing a trap druid against a good player, you know, instead of posting 1 video going “See! See! We’re Good!” (It might also help if the video isn’t a super cut showing a players successes while conveniently not showing all their failures. Not that Justine does it, but 99.9% of all players who post videos do.)
With nerfs to Druids every day since the launch of HOT and all the client crashes. I am about done with GW2. I have to turn my video down to even do Wold boss events. Now, again, after a nice nerf to us I can’t log into the game for client errors. Two days in a row. WOW’s expansion is looking very hot and tempting.
Sahalla Sylvermyst – Ranger – Most nerfed class in GW2
…In the third video, you proved that stupid players are stupid. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to stand inside those fire fields like that (which…has nothing to do with druid or staff and can be done with literally any condition build)? Can you show us a video of you playing against a good player?
In case you didn’t catch it, that was Justine’s 1st PvP match ever.
Probably not going to see ROM, Five Gauge or Lord Helseth in her videos for a while…
didn’t notice really,or care honestly. And I’ll be honest and say that I don’t even play SPvP. All my many hours of fighting against other players is in WvW, and if players here are smart enough to get out of fire fields instead of hitting skill buttons, then people in SPvP should definitely be smart enough there.
Well, since you have no clue and are insolent about it, I’ll inform you of why your comments are ignorant. If it was her 1st PvP game, then the MMR will be at the lowest possible, so she would only be matched up with total beginners.
darn right I’m ignorant about it! I don’t care if its your 1st or 1,000,000th match!
Doesn’t invalidate my original statement. I want to see a video of someone playing a trap druid against a good player, you know, instead of posting 1 video going “See! See! We’re Good!” (It might also help if the video isn’t a super cut showing a players successes while conveniently not showing all their failures. Not that Justine does it, but 99.9% of all players who post videos do.)
The vid was not meant to demonstrate skill. I didn’t want to use it originally because it was so lopsided. I had a recorded match with down by 100 points and came back to win by 20ish but it was long. The blowout match was short and demonstrated most of the available options (not necessarily for spvp exclusive) the build brought to the table. Yeah the vid was created as an intro to a build I posted on the forums.
