Guild Wars 2

Just good Lord…

My eyes may actually roll out of my head.

And that adds what to the general discussion. That you find people disagreeing with you laughable, I’d hope not as that is kind of sad.

Regardless, I think it’s still best to wait and see.

Bran.7425:

And that adds what to the general discussion. That you find people disagreeing with you laughable, I’d hope not as that is kind of sad.

Please, feel free to point out exactly what they were doing during Necromancer, Ranger that they didn’t do during the others.

If you read the forums as well, you know that I prefer to discuss things when someone else has a differing opinion … but we discuss facts

When someone states that perception can be more important than actualities when we’re disagreeing on something … how exactly do you want me to discuss that?

I could say “they did this in both” … you could reply “my perception is that they didn’t”.

You could say “I perceived they were far less professional during Necromancer and Ranger”. I would then ask you how you judge that? How do you measure that?

Do you now see how ridiculous it is?

If you want to know what I find laughable … jokes … I don’t roll my eyes at jokes.

I do roll my eyes when someone is stating something as fact when they have provided no facts to support their statement … and then defend it adamantly with a further whilst still providing no facts.

You’re free to your opinions “how they said things” … I’m free to my opinion of your opinion. And you’re again free of your opinion of my opinion of your opinion.

My eyes will eventually see down my throat at this rate.

You are not understanding I will try to explain this to you in a better way, with an example.

Perception: “Rangers are garbage in dungeons”
Actuality: “Spotter and Frost Spirit provide party buffs before pets abilities are taken into account”

So presentation is important, sometime more so than fact as arguing with anyone that thinks the longbow is out of line, especially when all projectile generally use the same basic mechanics.

I can agree to disagree on the perception on presentation, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t something that needs consideration and if you are so immature not to continue use the ‘its laughable or you’re being too sensitive’ may you choke on your own eyes.

Your example simply shows that people can have a perception that doesn’t match the actuality. This is known since not everyone applies logic, looks at the facts, etc..

How does that support complaining about “how they said things” during the AMA during particular classes and having an issue when someone thinks such baseless opinions are ridiculous other than not liking that someone thinks said baseless opinions are ridiculous.

Bring some facts to it and we’re solid.
Bring some way to gauge that they were “worse” during those classes than they were during others.

Then we’ll talk.

I don’t think that there is anything that really needs to be talked about with you. You have your opinion and other will have their, your ‘facts’ here can mostly be boiled down to “No you are wrong” this isn’t as simple argument of fact as opinions are the basis of what is being discuss, but I think that this is probably pointless as you are going keep this going back and worth adding little to nothing to the discuss and boring me at the same time (the worst of the two things in my view).

You’re entitled to think what you want, but if you are actually reading then you should have noticed that I’ve asked you questions about what it is the developers did that has brought about your opinion … you have not answered one of them but instead griped about my opinion of your opinion and called facts “facts” … because “facts” aren’t a well-defined term I guess.

Fact: They cut up and joked in every one of the discussions on the various classes

Fact: They made all sorts of jokes related to things we see players discuss/complain_about/etc. on the forums during each of the class sections.

Fact: They told everyone that everything is currently in a state of flux.

Feel free to base your opinions off of this.

If you’re going to freely share your negative opinion of something without backing it up with anything other than “it’s just perception”, then don’t be surprised when someone shares their negative opinion of your opinion.

If you’re unhappy with other’s opinions of your shared opinions and you think of facts as “facts” then please do leave. Nothing will be lost.