Guild Wars 2

This is kind of crazy. I tested it in WvW against a level 80 black bear with 0 points traited into condition damage. Then I invested 30 points into condition damage (+300 cond. dam.) and the tooltip bleeding damage went from ~8k to ~12k. The skill did the same damage against the mob, with the same equipment, buffs, and everything.

The skill applies 20 stacks of bleeding and yet none of them are affected by condition damage. :/

That makes me sad. I just started using that skill and was going to test this myself. Hope they fix it…

post this in the bug section. this needs to be fixed….

I posted this in Bugs a week ago but I don’t think people really understood what I was saying. I don’t know how to merge threads but these should be…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Ranger-s-Entangle-elite/first#post647707

well i was able to reach 27k of damage with entangle, ofc never sow that damage, the tooltip is totally wrong, since i tried vs a golem and it only “consumed” 3/4hp over like 20 seconds

entangle is the worst elite skill in the game. It literally does 0 damage to anyone who knows how to remove conditions. Not to mention it has no use other than slow constant bleed damage and immob which can be immediately cleansed out of.

I find it very useful and extremely effective even in it’s current broken form…if it actually work as advertized…it would be something indeed.

You are right on how it’s effects can be easily neutralized…in practice however, as someone who has used this Elite exclusively through beta and all through release, 50% of the time either due to the player or the situation, it is not removed. Especially when it is used correctly…a well-executed Entangle can be the skill that makes the difference.

NaturalPortman.9562:

entangle is the worst elite skill in the game. It literally does 0 damage to anyone who knows how to remove conditions. Not to mention it has no use other than slow constant bleed damage and immob which can be immediately cleansed out of.

Why take entangle instead of rao? Ah ye in pve is quite good.

NaturalPortman.9562:

entangle is the worst elite skill in the game. It literally does 0 damage to anyone who knows how to remove conditions. Not to mention it has no use other than slow constant bleed damage and immob which can be immediately cleansed out of.

Actually as far as I can tell the immobilize stays there until either the roots are destroyed or the player is knocked back.

RyuDragnier.9476:

NaturalPortman.9562:

entangle is the worst elite skill in the game. It literally does 0 damage to anyone who knows how to remove conditions. Not to mention it has no use other than slow constant bleed damage and immob which can be immediately cleansed out of.

Actually as far as I can tell the immobilize stays there until either the roots are destroyed or the player is knocked back.

Uh not at all. You cleanse the immob and can literally walk out of the roots.

the aoe immob, when landed at the perfect moment, can win the fight for your team. timing makes all the difference. also annihilates thieves and eles muddy terrain is better. but having both is priceless.

The tooltip is the only thing about entangle that is affected by anything. It’s not just condition damage that doesn’t affect it. It’s a survival skill but doesn’t get 20% reduction to its CD (edit: I was corrected below, the trait does work). Condition duration doesn’t affect it. Literally nothing matters. It is what it is and that’s all that it is.

That said, I love Entangle for WvW.

1) It can get people up/down walls in WvW easily.
2) It can easily stop reinforcements from flooding in to a keep/tower past a zerg.
3) It WILL hit a thief in stealth and as an added bonus it tells you where the thief is.
4) It can stop up to 5 people who are being routed if your zerg is winning. People trying to run are bad at breaking out and even 1 second can get them killed by the zerg.

I do see the benefit of RaO (stability mainly since you really can’t rely on your pet to stack might on you and stacking might on your pet is questionable) but I just find Entangle more useful the majority of the time.

Unspecified.9142:

The tooltip is the only thing about entangle that is affected by anything. It’s not just condition damage that doesn’t affect it. It’s a survival skill but doesn’t get 20% reduction to its CD. Condition duration doesn’t affect it. Literally nothing matters. It is what it is and that’s all that it is.

The CD trait does affect Entangle. It goes from 150s to 120s.

Ursan.7846:

Unspecified.9142:

The tooltip is the only thing about entangle that is affected by anything. It’s not just condition damage that doesn’t affect it. It’s a survival skill but doesn’t get 20% reduction to its CD. Condition duration doesn’t affect it. Literally nothing matters. It is what it is and that’s all that it is.

The CD trait does affect Entangle. It goes from 150s to 120s.

You’re right, my mistake. I’m fairly certain it didn’t used to work though I honestly hadn’t checked it in a long time because I use traps and not survival utilities.

Unspecified.9142:

Ursan.7846:

Unspecified.9142:

The tooltip is the only thing about entangle that is affected by anything. It’s not just condition damage that doesn’t affect it. It’s a survival skill but doesn’t get 20% reduction to its CD. Condition duration doesn’t affect it. Literally nothing matters. It is what it is and that’s all that it is.

The CD trait does affect Entangle. It goes from 150s to 120s.

You’re right, my mistake. I’m fairly certain it didn’t used to work though I honestly hadn’t checked it in a long time because I use traps and not survival utilities.

correct that was improved several patches ago relatively early on.

I personally would check and see if the trait that improves pet condition damage impacts entangle.

I am condition damage based, with about 1500 condition damage…I cannot imagine how awesome Entangle would be if it actually worked as intended. Sadly, I’ll never see it in action, since if something so simple hasn’t been fixed yet, it never will be.