Guild Wars 2

Hi guys, thought I would make a couple of strawpolls to get some votes happening on the Smokescale F2 and CAF, provide ANet with some data on their changes.

Hope everyone takes the time to vote. Thanks.

Smokescale F2 preference Poll

Astral Force Generation Poll

reverting the smokescale f2’s WITH its large damage nerf would be a big mistake. we’ll essentially have an average nuke that is no longer on-demand. we need improvements, I know. but I hope the devs stand their ground on this one.

Personally, I feel that I already have enough control over the pets #3 skill by swapping or using “Guard!” and would far prefer having an on-demand smoke field to stack stealth with my mates or while playing dual melee, for openers.

mistsim.2748:

reverting the smokescale f2’s WITH its large damage nerf would be a big mistake. we’ll essentially have an average nuke that is no longer on-demand. we need improvements, I know. but I hope the devs stand their ground on this one.

I find the smokescale burst easily controllable without using F2 as it will use it as its first skill. An on-demand smoke field is more important than the burst I reckon.

that’s fair. I feel druids bring more than enough utility to the table already. but we desperately need more offensive power. have Smoke Assault on the f2 works better in that function.

kiwituatara.6053:

mistsim.2748:

reverting the smokescale f2’s WITH its large damage nerf would be a big mistake. we’ll essentially have an average nuke that is no longer on-demand. we need improvements, I know. but I hope the devs stand their ground on this one.

I find the smokescale burst easily controllable without using F2 as it will use it as its first skill. An on-demand smoke field is more important than the burst I reckon.

yeah I didn’t have too many problems with this either. either way, I like both.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Personally, I feel that I already have enough control over the pets #3 skill by swapping or using “Guard!” and would far prefer having an on-demand smoke field to stack stealth with my mates or while playing dual melee, for openers.

I think many of you are overlooking another shout, sic em now doesn’t break it’s effect when you give pet commands and it seems to stack with signet of the wild (pretty sure it didn’t before) I just had my smokescale do 15k+ damage with F2 and some mightstacking multiple times, 18k was max and I was just sloppy testing don’t even know if he had 25might, this was on the unkillable golem I am sure 20k+ is possible on something squishier

edit: Did the same with bristleback, 2k damage per crit from the barrage F2 that’s 30k damage!!! potentially more on a squishier target if all of them crit lol! (we know what’s gonna happen with this sadly)

Manekk.6981:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Personally, I feel that I already have enough control over the pets #3 skill by swapping or using “Guard!” and would far prefer having an on-demand smoke field to stack stealth with my mates or while playing dual melee, for openers.

I think many of you are overlooking another shout, sic em now doesn’t break it’s effect when you give pet commands and it seems to stack with signet of the wild (pretty sure it didn’t before)…

I don’t get your point, tbh.

It would have worked just fine before as well. In fact it would have been better imo, you could have kept your Smokey on swap so you could bring him out and get the SA skill, could still use Sic Em as you knew it was coming immediately after swap. You could have used it more as a surprise burst as well, because they would not have been 100% sure that the pet on swap was a Smokey and would SA them at some point in the next 30s.

Before, you could have at least used the F2 in all areas of PvE for skipping, in WvW it would have made co-ordinated Ranger/Druid groups very good, as well as in PvP for stealth openers and clutch moments when you could finish the on demand field for some stealth.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Manekk.6981:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Personally, I feel that I already have enough control over the pets #3 skill by swapping or using “Guard!” and would far prefer having an on-demand smoke field to stack stealth with my mates or while playing dual melee, for openers.

I think many of you are overlooking another shout, sic em now doesn’t break it’s effect when you give pet commands and it seems to stack with signet of the wild (pretty sure it didn’t before)…

I don’t get your point, tbh.

It would have worked just fine before as well. In fact it would have been better imo, you could have kept your Smokey on swap so you could bring him out and get the SA skill, could still use Sic Em as you knew it was coming immediately after swap. You could have used it more as a surprise burst as well, because they would not have been 100% sure that the pet on swap was a Smokey and would SA them at some point in the next 30s.

Before, you could have at least used the F2 in all areas of PvE for skipping, in WvW it would have made co-ordinated Ranger/Druid groups very good, as well as in PvP for stealth openers and clutch moments when you could finish the on demand field for some stealth.

I wasn’t arguing against anything meerly pointing out the change to sic em, since I haven’t heard the faintest whisper from anyone about it I assumed many had missed it and mistsim has said in several threads how his smokescale easily does 8k dmg I thought it worth pointing out 20k is still very easy, I just picked this one (out of the 25 something smokescale threads lol) to post in.

btw raven 12k blinding slash (both hits together) instantly followed by 6,5k swoop with this.

There was a thread that we talked about that change to Sic Em in, but it has been lost in the sh&# storm that is AF generation being beyond horrible and yet another nerf.

It is a great bug fix but lets be honest, that is what it is. A fix to a 3 year old bug, not a buff.

Having an on demand smoke field was going to be just amazing, the Smokey was included in every one of my builds because of the on-demand… Sigh.

It’s pretty disheartening when it takes 3 years to fix some bugs on Ranger but always nerfs come so quickly while others are left in the game for ages.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

There was a thread that we talked about that change to Sic Em in, but it has been lost in the sh&# storm that is AF generation being beyond horrible and yet another nerf.

It is a great bug fix but lets be honest, that is what it is. A fix to a 3 year old bug, not a buff.

Having an on demand smoke field was going to be just amazing, the Smokey was included in every one of my builds because of the on-demand… Sigh.

It’s pretty disheartening when it takes 3 years to fix some bugs on Ranger but always nerfs come so quickly while others are left in the game for ages.

Ah kk missed that one, agree with what you say here too but I am still very happy about the change though (to sic em that is)

Its almost as if there are 10 devs on balance team and 9 say to the 10th guy:
- Rangers are posting doomsday threads all over the place. Quick give them something good.
- Ok, gave them good stuff.
- This ain’t no good, now 8 profession forums are whining. Nerf it to the ground.

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