Knockback only works if you don’t block, dodge, or reflect it and don’t have stability.
Stealth shot only works if you don’t block, dodge, or reflect it.
It looks like what you need to do is block, dodge, or reflect the shot.
Last I checked, that’s what you need to do for the skills used by other classes as well … except I can’t reflect hard-hitting melee skills.
AND IF YOU ARE A GOD kitten MESMER WHO DOSNT HAVE STABILITY AND JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN WITH THIS kittenG GAME?
Stealth, reflect, distortion or one of the several interrupts will make short work of them. Mesmers can abuse one of the 3 most fatal flaws of longbow rangers. LoS and multiple targets. Stealth, clones and teleports lets you move in and out of LoS more, clones make great meatshields and distractions, and reflects will eat most noob Lb rangers alive since most don’t seem to think its worth interrupting their rapid fire when it’s all coming straight back at them. But really…stun them. Most of them only have 1 stun break and some of them don’t have any for whatever reason.
First of all,thank you for trying to help.
Lets deal with what you said one by one:1.RF if you havent noticed yet->follows stealth.
2.reflect->mesmers reflects are tend to not contributing the builds meaning if I run shatter,first thing i need to be mobile,hence portal,blink and free slot,now you can argue that the free slot can be feedback but than you miss one of the best mesmers skills which is decoy which handles almost every proffesion except ranger atm.other reflects needed to spec for them(traits) which ruin your typical shatter build.
3.Distortion->the only thing which helps apart from dodges,but have very long cd and I tend to secure stomps with it or get out of sticky situations so I wont having it all the time.
4.Inturrpt->This is a very good thing to do,if you see the ranger before the inital attack.Otherwise you just kittened.
5.all other arguments are really not reliable since clones are very low health+not spawn or be where you want them to act as a meatshield.And as I said before,stunning them really depends on alot of things which is see them first,or get the daze timed right.
Wow… just wow… Mesmers have so many tools for dealing with a ranger that you really have no excuse other than you refuse to adapt. Okay even if you can’t give up 1 of your precious utilities, or just dodge, you could always switch your heal to Mirror which gives you a 2 second reflect every 15 seconds.
AND IF YOU ARE A GOD kitten MESMER WHO DOSNT HAVE STABILITY AND JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN WITH THIS kittenG GAME?
Stealth, reflect, distortion or one of the several interrupts will make short work of them. Mesmers can abuse one of the 3 most fatal flaws of longbow rangers. LoS and multiple targets. Stealth, clones and teleports lets you move in and out of LoS more, clones make great meatshields and distractions, and reflects will eat most noob Lb rangers alive since most don’t seem to think its worth interrupting their rapid fire when it’s all coming straight back at them. But really…stun them. Most of them only have 1 stun break and some of them don’t have any for whatever reason.
First of all,thank you for trying to help.
Lets deal with what you said one by one:1.RF if you havent noticed yet->follows stealth.
2.reflect->mesmers reflects are tend to not contributing the builds meaning if I run shatter,first thing i need to be mobile,hence portal,blink and free slot,now you can argue that the free slot can be feedback but than you miss one of the best mesmers skills which is decoy which handles almost every proffesion except ranger atm.other reflects needed to spec for them(traits) which ruin your typical shatter build.
3.Distortion->the only thing which helps apart from dodges,but have very long cd and I tend to secure stomps with it or get out of sticky situations so I wont having it all the time.
4.Inturrpt->This is a very good thing to do,if you see the ranger before the inital attack.Otherwise you just kittened.
5.all other arguments are really not reliable since clones are very low health+not spawn or be where you want them to act as a meatshield.And as I said before,stunning them really depends on alot of things which is see them first,or get the daze timed right.
Wow… just wow… Mesmers have so many tools for dealing with a ranger that you really have no excuse other than you refuse to adapt. Okay even if you can’t give up 1 of your precious utilities, or just dodge, you could always switch your heal to Mirror which gives you a 2 second reflect every 15 seconds.
…and half of the healing effectivness which the cd of it is twice as much as RF.But you miss the point here,im not talking about 1v1 in OS,when you on point in tpvp fighting someone and then ranger jsut step in out of nowhere and 1 skill down you even tho you have almost full health,it is pretty annoying.I played against some top notch rangers before patch and they outplayed me very nicely,but the battle wasnt 4 seconds.Now I dont say that I never kileld a zerkbow ranger after patch,I did alot,but those skilled lb rangers before patch are now unbeatable.
those skilled lb rangers before patch are now unbeatable.
I look forward to seeing all the LB rangers in the tournament of glory finals then… oops there aren’t any. Guess no one knows what they’re doing!
those skilled lb rangers before patch are now unbeatable.
I look forward to seeing all the LB rangers in the tournament of glory finals then… oops there aren’t any. Guess no one knows what they’re doing!
hmmm,I wanna see the look on your face when next ToL you will see a ranger.(Now it is too soon to see the changes).
There is a ranger in the finals. All of us who were playing ranger before the patch know exactly how the LB works post patch, which is why you don’t see any skilled LB rangers in the tourney.
A single LB user could have a place in a tourney, just as one group used a berserker killshot warrior last tourney and did reasonably well. LB rangers are not, as you say, unbeatable though, and unless something changes you’re not going to see them succeeding in large numbers in ToLs.
I had posted this in response to someone complaining about the new ranger buff and having to fight a party of rangers. I explained that fighting a party of anything the same (Stun-lock Warriors, Shatter Mesmers, etc…) would be hard but you have to know how to play.
I’ve had my ranger as my main and ran with just about every build there is. I know what works and what doesn’t and what counters what which is why I don’t run with lb even after patch. I tried it for a few hours but realized how easily it could be countered and went back to my old build I modified off an existing one. Anyway here is a synopsis of my analysis of these eager people who want to try the new machine gun (MG) ranger and don’t really know the mechanics. In the other thread I go into detail because I’ve posted more but this post sums up the combat breakdown…
IMO if you had a guard or an ele in your party… after seeing that the other party consisted of all rangers (for the most part minus the warrior you mentioned) I have no idea why they didn’t pop Wall of Reflection or Magnetic Aura.
It’s things like these that you need to think about. Let me give you a quick rundown on what a ranger is going to do if they’re running Machine Gun Build (MG)…
First they’ll spend the first few seconds of the fight buffing up, likely with Rampage as One and maybe even Quickening Zephyr if they’re feeling extra speedy. Then they’ll RF you. If you haven’t given up on closing the distance they’ll knock you back. You’ll try and close the distance and they’ll stealth somewhere else where they can RF you again.
Almost every kiddie I’ve ran into roaming follows this simple pattern. Once you realize that’s the “blueprint” of their playstyle (obviously there are some variations and they might improvise if they aren’t completely brain dead zombies following the meta) it’s not terrible to counter.
For guard or ele, like I mentioned, when you see a ranger buffing up you know RF is coming soon so that would be a good time to pop WoR or Magnetic Aura. After RF is over you close the distance and wait to dodge roll forward until they try and knock you back. That is two wasted skills for the ranger right off the bat. Only thing they can do left is stealth and what do we all do during our enemy’s stealth? Swing madly at the air until they pop up somewhere else. MG rangers are only going to have 3s of stealth so once they pop up again you should have some time to close the distance and get a few hits in again before they pop RF again which you will have at least one if not two dodge rolls at your disposal.
The only real game changing variation is if they have Entangle instead of RaO which you’ll be able to tell right away when they buff up if they have it or not. If they Entangle you (it’s only 5s now) and if you get stuck (because it is possible to evade), pop a heal skill and be ready to roll right out of it because they’ll use that to RF you while you’re immobile.
Every skill for the ranger has a counter. Just gotta figure out what it is.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.
Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
I main ranger as well and also tried my favorite LB/GS build for several hours in PvP to get a feel for it (and learn how to squash it). I know, I am mean, but the only thing I enjoy more than killing zerker thieves, is killing zerker rangers. You need to get on top of them and hammer them relentlessly for about 2.5s.
I have been using a power/condi hybrid to rid myself of these pests, and you can as well. Double up on sigils of geomancy and hydromancy. Swap places with clone, blink to them or go invisible and walk up to them. Weapon swap and beat the snot out of them. As a Mesmer, you also have great access to confusion. Just imagine what 5 stacks of this would do to rapid fire…
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
You should be able to initiate a dodge after the first two or three arrows connect and negate the rest of the Rapid Fire. I do it all the time. Since they are projectiles it isn’t hard to then see where they are coming from and respond accordingly. I can also predict rangers from stealth pretty easily, given that again you will take a small amount of damage in the first .5 seconds and be able to dodge the rest. The stealth is also only three seconds long, so…
I’ve beaten longbow rangers with my trapper ranger. My trapper ranger has no blocks, no reflects, no projectile destruction, and a max of 900 range. He gets by entirely with dodges, good armor, and an evade on Sword 3.
I get bursted on occasion, but only when I’m already in a tough spot fighting someone else when a sniper ranger arrives, which is fine, because that is the role a sniper ranger fulfills. They are suppose to be good at being the +1 in a duel or small scale fight. You’d be equally screwed if it was a thief landing a backstab when you were already at 50% health.
u can try strafing either
Impossible to strafe now with the projectile speed buffs and read the wind also increases projectile speed.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Doesn’t sound like he was insulting you, he was merely pointing
out the fact you are whining about a thing that is more or less your own problem. You are not paying attention and thus you are not dodging and then you die. It’s a sad case of L2P issue because RF was as strong before patch as it’s today. Pre-patch you needed 2 dodges to avoid all the damage from it, now you need one.
There are so many options, you can 1 dodge, reflect, block, use invul, retaliate, confusion, line of sight, interrupt etc.
I beat a longbow ranger as a rifle warrior early today. A zerker rifle/hammer warrior. Bare in mind I am a really bad warrior, so it’s not even a matter of significant skill advantage.
I was capturing the mid point on Spirit Watch. He runs up the stairs and opens with Rapid Fire, which I dodge. I try to return fire but get hit with Point Blank Shot. I recover and unload a Volley which he dodges. He uses Hunter’s Shot to relocate with some distance and unloads another Rapid Fire which I again dodge. I hit him with Crippling Shot and pursue him to keep him in range. His wolf fears me and he turns around and hits me with a Rapid Fire only for my Endure Pain to eat it. Then I switch to hammer, use the F1 to leap at him, which connects. Then I knock him down to set up for a hammer 5. He eats it, switches to greatsword to block my next attack and knock me down and leads into a Maul, then Swoops away. I switch back to rifle and unload another Volley that he dodges. He puts down a Healing Spring to recover.
Then I get down on one knee for a Kill Shot. He switches back to longbow and starts shooting, and tries to dodge, but I cancelled the Kill Shot at the last moment causing him to waste it. I set up Kill Shot again and get him while he’s out of endurance, but his Rapid Fire gets me down as well.
We throw stuff at each other for a little bit before he gets his pet to start healing him. I get back up with Vengeance, walk over, and get the stomp. Then I died on top of him.
It was a pretty epic fight.
I suppose the moral of that story is rangers using a zerker build are pretty squishy. With a similar ranged weapon and a zerker build of your own you are on pretty even footing, all in all. It all comes down to who gets in the first hits and who makes better use of their burst and dodges.
(edited by Ehecatl.9172)
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Doesn’t sound like he was insulting you, he was merely pointing
out the fact you are whining about a thing that is more or less your own problem. You are not paying attention and thus you are not dodging and then you die. It’s a sad case of L2P issue because RF was as strong before patch as it’s today. Pre-patch you needed 2 dodges to avoid all the damage from it, now you need one.
You dont get it.But I blame myself for that,maybe my english is not the best.
I do defeat rangers,I do wins game against rangers,but since the patch those rangers become so annoying,cause if one burst hits you,you are as good as dead.I do dodge them when I can.Somtimes you wont be able to evade the burst and this is annoying that your punish for not dodging one simple 6cd attack is death,even backstab gives you a fighting chance.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Doesn’t sound like he was insulting you, he was merely pointing
out the fact you are whining about a thing that is more or less your own problem. You are not paying attention and thus you are not dodging and then you die. It’s a sad case of L2P issue because RF was as strong before patch as it’s today. Pre-patch you needed 2 dodges to avoid all the damage from it, now you need one.You dont get it.But I blame myself for that,maybe my english is not the best.
I do defeat rangers,I do wins game against rangers,but since the patch those rangers become so annoying,cause if one burst hits you,you are as good as dead.I do dodge them when I can.Somtimes you wont be able to evade the burst and this is annoying that your punish for not dodging one simple 6cd attack is death,even backstab gives you a fighting chance.
So it’s a 6 second cool down attack now? I love how every day since the patch rangers become a little more powerful. It seems like our range is up to about 3000 units, we can perma stealth, rapid fire hits for 50,000, and the 30 pets we bring to a fight are actually useful.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Doesn’t sound like he was insulting you, he was merely pointing
out the fact you are whining about a thing that is more or less your own problem. You are not paying attention and thus you are not dodging and then you die. It’s a sad case of L2P issue because RF was as strong before patch as it’s today. Pre-patch you needed 2 dodges to avoid all the damage from it, now you need one.You dont get it.But I blame myself for that,maybe my english is not the best.
I do defeat rangers,I do wins game against rangers,but since the patch those rangers become so annoying,cause if one burst hits you,you are as good as dead.I do dodge them when I can.Somtimes you wont be able to evade the burst and this is annoying that your punish for not dodging one simple 6cd attack is death,even backstab gives you a fighting chance.So it’s a 6 second cool down attack now? I love how every day since the patch rangers become a little more powerful. It seems like our range is up to about 3000 units, we can perma stealth, rapid fire hits for 50,000, and the 30 pets we bring to a fight are actually useful.
*8s.
If this is your argument,then it is concluded,this conversation over.
*8 seconds when traited, which means they went 4 points into skirmishing. To do this they have to sacrifice read the wind, which means you can sidestep arrows, or they have no traits for survivability and condi removal.
If you can’t beat a full glass ranger than I suggest you practice dueling one or build your own to learn their weaknesses.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Doesn’t sound like he was insulting you, he was merely pointing
out the fact you are whining about a thing that is more or less your own problem. You are not paying attention and thus you are not dodging and then you die. It’s a sad case of L2P issue because RF was as strong before patch as it’s today. Pre-patch you needed 2 dodges to avoid all the damage from it, now you need one.You dont get it.But I blame myself for that,maybe my english is not the best.
I do defeat rangers,I do wins game against rangers,but since the patch those rangers become so annoying,cause if one burst hits you,you are as good as dead.I do dodge them when I can.Somtimes you wont be able to evade the burst and this is annoying that your punish for not dodging one simple 6cd attack is death,even backstab gives you a fighting chance.
So what’s up with this whining then? This has nothing to do with a LB ranger using RF on you. It could be a very glassy thief backstabbing you (You can’t see him coming for you if he is in stealth, so how can you evade that but can’t evade a channeled skill that you can see/hear?), a warrior hunderblading or any other class using one of their more or less powerful skills as you would die anyways in that situation. You seem to be just complaining for the sake of complaining. Maybe you need a new hobby? I heard cross stitching is very relaxing and easy to learn.
So it’s a 6 second cool down attack now? I love how every day since the patch rangers become a little more powerful. It seems like our range is up to about 3000 units, we can perma stealth, rapid fire hits for 50,000, and the 30 pets we bring to a fight are actually useful.
We can also shoot lightning out our butt … or maybe that’s because I’m a Norn :-p
So it’s a 6 second cool down attack now? I love how every day since the patch rangers become a little more powerful. It seems like our range is up to about 3000 units, we can perma stealth, rapid fire hits for 50,000, and the 30 pets we bring to a fight are actually useful.
We can also shoot lightning out our butt … or maybe that’s because I’m a Norn :-p
I just picked up my new grandmaster trait that allows me to shoot lazers from my eyes. I can’t wait to hop into yolo que to test it out!
I just wish I could shoot Unicorns … need that precursor :-p
BUT HOW I GET IN FACE WHEN SHOOT ME WITH PUSH BACK ARROW????
Try this new thing called stability, I know warriors have so little access to it but I’m sure you can figure something out.
BUT THEN HE GO STEALTH FOR 10 SECONDS AND SHOOTS ME WITH 30K RAPID FIRE!!!!
AND THEN THEY GO IN THE WATER AND THERE’S A BEAR. HOW BEAR IN THE WATER?!?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? YOU NOT KNOW?
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Doesn’t sound like he was insulting you, he was merely pointing
out the fact you are whining about a thing that is more or less your own problem. You are not paying attention and thus you are not dodging and then you die. It’s a sad case of L2P issue because RF was as strong before patch as it’s today. Pre-patch you needed 2 dodges to avoid all the damage from it, now you need one.You dont get it.But I blame myself for that,maybe my english is not the best.
I do defeat rangers,I do wins game against rangers,but since the patch those rangers become so annoying,cause if one burst hits you,you are as good as dead.I do dodge them when I can.Somtimes you wont be able to evade the burst and this is annoying that your punish for not dodging one simple 6cd attack is death,even backstab gives you a fighting chance.So what’s up with this whining then? This has nothing to do with a LB ranger using RF on you. It could be a very glassy thief backstabbing you (You can’t see him coming for you if he is in stealth, so how can you evade that but can’t evade a channeled skill that you can see/hear?), a warrior hunderblading or any other class using one of their more or less powerful skills as you would die anyways in that situation. You seem to be just complaining for the sake of complaining. Maybe you need a new hobby? I heard cross stitching is very relaxing and easy to learn.
That is the problem,backstabbing wont be end of story,RF would be.if the chain hits you you are dead,if backstab hits you you still have a fighting chance.
Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.
You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.
Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).
And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.
Doesn’t sound like he was insulting you, he was merely pointing
out the fact you are whining about a thing that is more or less your own problem. You are not paying attention and thus you are not dodging and then you die. It’s a sad case of L2P issue because RF was as strong before patch as it’s today. Pre-patch you needed 2 dodges to avoid all the damage from it, now you need one.You dont get it.But I blame myself for that,maybe my english is not the best.
I do defeat rangers,I do wins game against rangers,but since the patch those rangers become so annoying,cause if one burst hits you,you are as good as dead.I do dodge them when I can.Somtimes you wont be able to evade the burst and this is annoying that your punish for not dodging one simple 6cd attack is death,even backstab gives you a fighting chance.So what’s up with this whining then? This has nothing to do with a LB ranger using RF on you. It could be a very glassy thief backstabbing you (You can’t see him coming for you if he is in stealth, so how can you evade that but can’t evade a channeled skill that you can see/hear?), a warrior hunderblading or any other class using one of their more or less powerful skills as you would die anyways in that situation. You seem to be just complaining for the sake of complaining. Maybe you need a new hobby? I heard cross stitching is very relaxing and easy to learn.
That is the problem,backstabbing wont be end of story,RF would be.if the chain hits you you are dead,if backstab hits you you still have a fighting chance.
cnd+steal(mug)>backstab = 20k+ dmg (nearly instantly)
rf > idk how much but not 20 k. , and it has a 2.5 s cast . enemy can dodge 60-70% of it w one single dodge
What Wyrden said is spot on.
Go over to the Mesmer forum and read the discussion about Assassin vs Berserker for PvP. You’ll see it turn to “I can’t go any less HP than that because of Thieves”. You don’t see them say “…because of Rangers” nor because of any other class.
If you’re a thief and having trouble with the Ranger change, it’s because you’re one of those Thieves that benefits from the low skill floor. The Thief class is unique in that while it has a crazy high skill ceiling, it also has a stupidly low skill floor.
If rangers are OP, someone please tell my game so I can start facerolling everything? Thanks.
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