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Posted by: Brizzles.3102

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I believe (if the run didnt have a cd on 6) the spring would apply 10 stacks of torment over its duration(if its like vigor on heal) and would end up being something around 363 twice per second(1200 cond) if there moving for 10 second? I would of been so happy !

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

I believe (if the run didnt have a cd on 6) the spring would apply 10 stacks of torment over its duration(if its like vigor on heal) and would end up being something around 363 twice per second(1200 cond) if there moving for 10 second? I would of been so happy !

lol, that would of just been hilarious

I would use healing spring then for sure.

My entire video would be nothing but You’ve been trolled

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
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Posted by: Brizzles.3102

Brizzles.3102

^ lol “Troll Spring”. Also i noticed you run a wide variety of pets in your videos. Personally i cant put the wolf away, the cc train with knock down then popping its fear is just too fantastic. I do agree birds are useless now which sucks i miss hitting people for 6k randomly

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Posted by: kiwituatara.6053

kiwituatara.6053

I made a variation to your build. Its also based around BM and apothecary gear

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VF;5Fku-g2NxV-0;9V8Z;19T;0T3;006B;423BU-k6;2bUytbUytM7Gd1-N9;2VMVRWWXa2g3m45R-6-0F-8ZF18Z;9;9;9;9;9;4V6s5P

I use apothecary gear coz I wanted to keep the conditions and switch the direct damage source from myself to my pet. The pet becomes a little tankier with compassion training and carnivorous appetite. I like to use Master’s Bond for Jaguar sometimes then switch back to Commanding voice after 25 stacks.

Offensive: Jaguar + shortbow.
Kite around while your Jaguar directs damage. Burst by stunning (preferably technobabble) and popping both signets and Jaguar F2.

Defensive: Riverdrake + greatsword.
Drop your drake. Swoop/block like crazy and run away.

Its probably not as viable, but still pretty fun.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

I could probably drop the 30 points in Skirmish and go 30 in Beast, but man..5 second Daze on Techno is just nasty.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

Chokolata.1870

I would actually advise going for a full Carrion armor set with the already mentioned celestial weapons and trinkets . Carrion buffs both condition damage and flat power damage , and is very versatile as you can easily switch up to a spirit build while maintaining lots of pressure , because carrion is the best with that .

Of course , i am a firm believer that PROTECT ME works very well with this build if you use drakes . The drake is more versatile then a spider and it offers a controlled burst with its F2 .

Actually , the variant i am running currently is sword/torch and longbow/greatsword with 2 traps and protect me . And instead of moment of clarity i use trap potency .

It is actually very troll like . Although the flow of the battle is a bit different then in the video Xsorus posted . He has sustain , i do not . But i can overload with conditions and have a 6 second invulnerability for all intents and purposes .

But overall , really really fun build and , oh boy do i love perplexity runes

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

Chok make a video if ya can, that would actually be really cool to see.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

Chokolata.1870

i would if I knew how … lol mb a quick tutorial …

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Posted by: Beardmonger.4692

Beardmonger.4692

Is there any further update to this runeset or anything? Such as a BM based build that someone has been successful with? I am simply loving these runes personally.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

If you’re Asura, simply take BM Bunker Build with these runes, and plop on Technobabble.

Otherwise I don’t recommend BM Bunker with Shortbow and Greatsword

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
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Posted by: Stice.5204

Stice.5204

For us non-asura, combining this with a trap build as Chokolata suggested above seems to work really nice. Replace Quick Draw and Moment of Clarity with Trapper’s Expertise and Trap Potency, then use Flame Trap as your third utility skill. You get extra condition pressure to make up for the fewer interrupts and shorter dazes.

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Posted by: kiwituatara.6053

kiwituatara.6053

Just realised, if you use technobabble out of combat, it does not put you in combat and does not set off Opening Strike. Might be helpful for signet/zerker rangers lol

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Posted by: Gorath.5076

Gorath.5076

Hey Xsorus, loved your build!
One question though:
I m having huge trouble fighting stun-Warriors. do you have any advice on how to take them?
I have the feeling of doing little to no damage while my interrupts and dazes seem to have little effect on them either (no stability up). I will admit I do not know how this Warrior-build works but I find it incredibly hard to fight …

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

Switch Signet of the Hunt for Lightning Reflex before the fight and pray.

Honestly though, their build is so powerful right now you have to vastly outplay them.

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Posted by: Diehard.1432

Diehard.1432

Was having trouble against bunker guardian with this build as well. It shines against light/medium armor class though.

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Posted by: Gorath.5076

Gorath.5076

Switch Signet of the Hunt for Lightning Reflex before the fight and pray.

Honestly though, their build is so powerful right now you have to vastly outplay them.

so this is just a general problem against tanky classes with all their condition remove?
Warriors right now are overpowered, hands down and I will admit that I am far from being a pro ranger but:
I wasnt at any moment of the fight able to bring him below 70% HP … How can you compensate for that by skill? (I do not have your gear set yet, so I am using a combination of PVT/Knights/Celesterial atm.)

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

KOPPER.1458

going to get ascended weapons for this? I am still trying to get the jewelry.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

Switch Signet of the Hunt for Lightning Reflex before the fight and pray.

Honestly though, their build is so powerful right now you have to vastly outplay them.

so this is just a general problem against tanky classes with all their condition remove?
Warriors right now are overpowered, hands down and I will admit that I am far from being a pro ranger but:
I wasnt at any moment of the fight able to bring him below 70% HP … How can you compensate for that by skill? (I do not have your gear set yet, so I am using a combination of PVT/Knights/Celesterial atm.)

Nope, its only Warriors Right now.

Its a combination of Condition Removal, high health regen, access to multiple forms of stability that come up constantly, and a 4 second stun followed by a move that will kill you if you’re in anything less then full bunker build.

You can win duels right now If you can kill them fast enough, soon as its not a duel and they’re allowed to run away from fights you’ve lost though. They’ll simply run, and once your crap is down like Rampage as one, they’ll come back, stun you once and kill you.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

Cufufalating.8479

Enjoyed the video and reading this thread. I run a simular-ish build atm (celestial signet build, but it plays more or less the same as this) and like others have mentioned I struggle vs heavy classes.

Thats not a huge problem per se, since the whole purpose of the build is for me to be hunting backline squishies for my guild (and maybe zerg surfing a bit.. but we wont tell anyone that), so my ability or inability to 1v1 a guardian is of little value.

But yeah, was good to watch someone whos a bit more proficient with this kinda of build playing it.

Out of interest this is what I am using
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VF;5FVu-g2REV-0;9k4N;1T9T;036A1;009A;4L-V0;2m9fgm9fg20Fk0-g2;2Vq5rar5sas5ta0uV4F310;11;9;9;9;9;9;6V5k3c

Cufufalating – Ranger / Part-Time Mesmer
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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

Chokolata.1870

If you are BM apothecary u can fight back

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

KOPPER.1458

for us noobs can you explain Chokolata?

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Posted by: Gorath.5076

Gorath.5076

By BM I guess HE means beastmaster bunker with 0/0/30/10/30, using axe/torch -sword/dagger and full apothecary gear.
You will end up with ~2k armor, 1.5k condition damage and ~ 440 hp/sec healing.
Which is a full bunker build, that Xsorus already mentioned to be the onlyway to defeat these warriors.
But chok, the main purpose of this build is to try something different?
A different weapon set and a different stat focus, especially involving Noee Power/crit to mmake the shortbow and bleed on crit viable. So just going back to start doesn’t seem to be a good advice …

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Posted by: Silverkung.9127

Silverkung.9127

Hahaha you give me more inspiration again Xsorus.
I have problem with thief perma stealth/blink/warp attack 10k in 1hit but you can handle S/D thief stalth/warp situation with cool head at time vs thief 6.50 those thief reset fight3time and he think you are dead meat at8.55 but no you can handle that risk situation how can you clam like that? and 9.25 I think he down but stealth help him reset fight again dam…you fight awesome Xsorus.

BTW back to topic

Hmm if Armor use carrion and Accessories use settler.Is good too?

About Entangle and Rampage as one what situation you choos one of both skill for use?I see you use both but use RaO often.

Sigil of brusting on weapon is good idea?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVRjEVB2FWKWo2Bi1DAJoB1eMJLhJWB+XynaC-jkCBYMQ4MAk0AkHQpQFRjtsuIasqbYadER1mbYeFER1CBsYOA-w
(If I use 30/10/30/0/0)

Rune of perplexity give 5confuse per 1interrupRealy
If pet interrup target will got effect from rune too?

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Posted by: kiwituatara.6053

kiwituatara.6053

LOLLLL Vigirous heal and healing spring are getting nerfed.

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

Shiren.9532

But not rune of perplexity. They want players to blow a tonne of resources by acquiring a gear set to run the most OP rune in the game before they nerf it into the ground. Kinda like how the BM bunker build was nerfed after the Southsun Cove patch made apothecary and settler’s gear sets easier to acquire.

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Posted by: SwinderP.2087

SwinderP.2087

What trinkets and rings could i use for the meantime for the PVT build? I am currently working my but off doing dailys and monthlys for the celestial rings etc.

Really excited to try this out. Might be the build I need to keep me from re rolling!

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

I still use it for zerging.

I mean…TB is hilarious in zergs when thieves get ready to stealth.

Just pop it with them

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Posted by: skeppi.4856

skeppi.4856

Still playing same build or have you tweaked it anymore

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