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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

- Sword damage is coming down, 1 of the evades are gone, cause its clearly the best weapon the ranger has (best damage, 66% evades on the skills), so we need the other weapons to look more viable

PLS man remove that now, i know it’s for the lulz but those devs might actually take you seriously and do that for real.

Ranger sword was never mentioned on any SOTG. Don’t think there is an issue with it, chillax. And trust me, the devs don’t need me to get ideas for a nerf. If it does happen, I will play my thief, and I don’t even use sword on my ranger. I consider myself a patient man, but my patience has limits too. He’s lvl69 already, and I have enough badges for him to buy a set of gear and weapons.

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

To be honest though, it’s the balance team that’s the big issue, not zooze. The balance team at ANet is the one actively trying to ruin the game on which others have worked hard and put all their time and effort into.

Well, the balance team (who only looks at sPvP), together with the interface team (camera view blocked by your own character, having to keep the right mouse button pressed to look around, no cursor causing you to shoot into the ground when losing your target, completely dropping your target when someone stealths, no possible keyboard shortcuts for several of our pet functions, etc) and the bug fix team (the wiki is littered with bug notes).

And they’re probably the same 2 guys, so highly overworked.

Take a deep breath and read again what you wrote. I’ve seen far worse in MMO balancing. We could be so much worse its not even funny. And to be frank, like I already wrote when the latest patch was released, they introduced 3-4 changes we asked for on the forums (evasive purity moved a tier lower, companion’s might fixed, spirit traits merged, longbow autoattack speed improved). Now I’m not saying that I’m happy with the patch, I think the SB range reduction was totally uncalled for, but to say that they have an agenda against rangers is being paranoid.

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

Chokolata.1870

What is this video you speak of ? i would love to watch it

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

Take a deep breath and read again what you wrote. I’ve seen far worse in MMO balancing. We could be so much worse its not even funny. And to be frank, like I already wrote when the latest patch was released, they introduced 3-4 changes we asked for on the forums (evasive purity moved a tier lower, companion’s might fixed, spirit traits merged, longbow autoattack speed improved).

Yes, you’re right, I’ve experienced worse too and some changes were indeed real nice. I epecially like evasive purity now.

Now I’m not saying that I’m happy with the patch, I think the SB range reduction was totally uncalled for

Yes, you’re right. They still haven’t even come up with a good reason for it. It’s these kind of changes that make people angry.

, but to say that they have an agenda against rangers is being paranoid.

You did so well, but then you had to add this nonsense.

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Posted by: stale.9785

stale.9785

Hello, I’m a normal player, who does PvE and WvW, and recognises that the tiny meta of PvP capture the node produces builds that are unworkably bad for any application other than the closed little 10% that is PvP.

EDIT: that came off unnecessarily snarky. However, the perceptions of PvP players on class balance, while the sole measure for balancing the game, are so skewed that they are worthless.

It’s long past time that every single balance is split between game modes, so that PvP can achieve their longed after “every-class-is-exactly-the-same” mode, while the rest of the players can actually enjoy playing classes that have different strengths and playstyles.

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Posted by: ilr.9675

ilr.9675

A big +1 to that…

It’s true… Most PvP’ers were never happy in the first game b/c they never quite made every class exactly the same. And when they eventually got close… a bunch of other PvP’ers who liked Asymmetry & actually had skill to adapt every week without the whining, …started protesting the Tournaments themselves by throwing Matches just to send a message to the Devs. They used different scapegoats too of course but it was obvious what the real culprit in it was.

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

, but to say that they have an agenda against rangers is being paranoid.

You did so well, but then you had to add this nonsense.

Yes, you are right, this is nonsense, unlike saying that the “balance team at ANet is the one actively trying to ruin the game”.

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Elona Bonechill – Necro / Fionna Gymirdottier – Guard /// RoF

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

The best part of that matchup

Team Makeup

Mesmer/Guardian/Elementalist/Necro/Engineer

If Rangers were so amazing, why didn’t they have on their team

Good post. See sig.

Anyone who posts about underpowered or overpowered in tournament play is almost always just scapegoating their failures. If it was really so easy to win with spirit rangers, everyone would be playing them, not complaining about them.

If you’re not playing to win, don’t complain when you lose.

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Posted by: Oidmetala.8426

Oidmetala.8426

for me zoose is bad player.
we won his team with a rly bad friendlist team some month before…

and now we see him lose vs 5 rangers and anet listen to such players,
seriously…

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

Chokolata.1870

he is asian so they presume he has skill :p

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Posted by: jubskie.3152

jubskie.3152

he is asian so they presume he has skill :p

Dude, lets not go there. Things are messy enough as it is. o_O

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

Cempa.5619

he is asian so they presume he has skill :p

Why you no likey lice?

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Posted by: thefantasticg.3984

thefantasticg.3984

I’m not going to lie. That made me laugh.

RNG is a bell curve. Better hope you’re on the right side.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

anet made a mess by forcing the meta into spirit…now they have egg on there face :/

What exactly do Spirit Rangers do against conditions? Spirits don’t cleanse (except for elite spirit that has a long cooldown), spirits don’t reduce the duration of condis, they don’t do anything to condis, so really the only thing at work here is Rangers speccing for Empathic bond and actually playing better than the other team.

I make guides to builds you may not have heard of;
http://www.youtube.com/user/ceimash
http://www.twitch.tv/ceimash

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Posted by: KOK.2650

KOK.2650

Hello,My name is Dardamaniac and im not even in the 1000 of leaderboards(i believe im about 85%),rank 37 and im totally rolling on the floor laughing with dat……

I have a ranger . I get to Rank 40 WITHOUT PLAYING ONE.
Seriously..

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Ayumu-lvl 80 Necromancer
Tsu-lvl 80 thief

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

, but to say that they have an agenda against rangers is being paranoid.

You did so well, but then you had to add this nonsense.

Yes, you are right, this is nonsense, unlike saying that the “balance team at ANet is the one actively trying to ruin the game”.

Touché

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Posted by: Pendleton.6385

Pendleton.6385

This whole thread is hilarious. Thank you all for making my incredibly boring work day slightly more bearable.

Tarnished Coast
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Posted by: Shiren.9532

Shiren.9532

To be honest though, it’s the balance team that’s the big issue, not zooze. The balance team at ANet is the one actively trying to ruin the game on which others have worked hard and put all their time and effort into.

Well, the balance team (who only looks at sPvP), together with the interface team (camera view blocked by your own character, having to keep the right mouse button pressed to look around, no cursor causing you to shoot into the ground when losing your target, completely dropping your target when someone stealths, no possible keyboard shortcuts for several of our pet functions, etc) and the bug fix team (the wiki is littered with bug notes).

And they’re probably the same 2 guys, so highly overworked.

Take a deep breath and read again what you wrote. I’ve seen far worse in MMO balancing. We could be so much worse its not even funny. And to be frank, like I already wrote when the latest patch was released, they introduced 3-4 changes we asked for on the forums (evasive purity moved a tier lower, companion’s might fixed, spirit traits merged, longbow autoattack speed improved). Now I’m not saying that I’m happy with the patch, I think the SB range reduction was totally uncalled for, but to say that they have an agenda against rangers is being paranoid.

They don’t have an agenda against rangers, they have an agenda against passive combat mechanics (signets, pet DPS, spirits) and ranged DPS, two of the things that were heavily built into the ranger. Their tunnel vision focus on sPvP doesn’t help when the ranger class has issues in PvE that don’t line up with sPvP needs.

For a development team that doesn’t like passive mechanics, it’s strange that they created a class built around them.

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Posted by: Levetty.1279

Levetty.1279

Anet should just delete all classes and replaces them with 8 classes that have the same armour and 1 skill btween them but even then the PvPers will complain that class #2 is OP because it has so much more 2ness then class # 7.

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

swiftpaw.6397

Anet should just delete all classes and replaces them with 8 classes that have the same armour and 1 skill btween them but even then the PvPers will complain that class #2 is OP because it has so much more 2ness then class # 7.

This. ^ This is it.

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Posted by: DarthDragonVanquisher.6912

DarthDragonVanquisher.6912

Wonder how they would have been if they met 5 necromancers….

We have played 3 necros and 2 spirit rangers. That is as close as we got. I just told all the rangers to bring signet of renewal. We won.

That was a good game! we did rather well with your leadership on that match Eurantien! great call!

The Official GW2 Esports Drama Reporter

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Posted by: matenzo.9518

matenzo.9518

That was a fun watch.

5*same class can produce some amusing effects. I once fought against a 5 man team of identical mesmers (asuras, same skin, same armor) spamming clones/phantasms. I almost had an epileptic crisis.

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Posted by: Haudruff.7804

Haudruff.7804

This is great in two ways:

1) It showes that the majority of nonranger-crybabys should learn to play.

2) It showes to the majority of ranger-crybabys that spirit-builds r ok and not bad. Btw, nothing was changed to them really. Reminds me on the wave of crying bout Beastmasters being useless at start of game. And then, ofc while nothing changed from anet’s site, ppl discovered that Beastmasters r so good, that they even got nerfed now.

Maybe at some point ppl will discover that the bows on ranger are actually usefull weapons and it is possible to pewpew from distance. oO

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

It is possible to pewpew from distance, but you’re much too vulnerable, and it takes too much time. Projectiles are also easily blocked/reflected. Traps are still awesome.

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Posted by: ilr.9675

ilr.9675

+1 on Traps. Massive potential there.

….we just can’t access that Potential in PvE until the Traits for Trapping are moved to some line that makes more sense for condition infliction, like WILDERNESS SURVIVAL where thy were were in GW1 for 7 godkittened years

(okay Vipers was in BM, and there was 2 Expertise skills that were super awesome for Trappers… but STILL, that crap was also basically Survival & Nature Magic themed … not Marksmanship and some kind of ba***rdization of Critical Strikes.)

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Posted by: Aridia.3042

Aridia.3042

For a development team that doesn’t like passive mechanics, it’s strange that they created a class built around them.

I find it doubly ironic that for a team so keen on counter play, that they made a game with such limited skillsets with overtly long cool downs with a crippling weapon swap. I LOLed when Sharp mentioned “Pros” having high APM in last SoTG. Really, what does that have to do with this game? Some utilities have 25 seconds to a minute cool down. The skill cap is low for this game. This is one of the many reasons why I can’t take this game seriously on a competitive lvl. It’s not about skill, it’s a build war which makes it even more flawed when combined with something like a node cap.

Get rid of the node cap, lower cool downs across the board, add more skill sets and get rid of weapon swap cool down, and maybe we’ll get somewhere interesting.

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

For a development team that doesn’t like passive mechanics, it’s strange that they created a class built around them.

I find it doubly ironic that for a team so keen on counter play, that they made a game with such limited skillsets with overtly long cool downs with a crippling weapon swap. I LOLed when Sharp mentioned “Pros” having high APM in last SoTG. Really, what does that have to do with this game? Some utilities have 25 seconds to a minute cool down. The skill cap is low for this game. This is one of the many reasons why I can’t take this game seriously on a competitive lvl. It’s not about skill, it’s a build war which makes it even more flawed when combined with something like a node cap.

Get rid of the node cap, lower cool downs across the board, add more skill sets and get rid of weapon swap cool down, and maybe we’ll get somewhere interesting.

Game modes other than capture point? Blasphemy!

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Posted by: Sol.4310

Sol.4310

Best part of that video was, we got told Zoose team SOAC Red just lost to all ranger team, then we face Zoose right after his lose and beat them rather easy.

That’s when the rage gets good lol, I believe he goes on for a good 30 mins of crying.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I’ve officially watched this, and i find it hilarious, how upset they’re getting! Oh, you were outplayed boys, just suck it up and accept it!

Good job my fellow rangers!

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

Best part of that video was, we got told Zoose team SOAC Red just lost to all ranger team, then we face Zoose right after his lose and beat them rather easy.

That’s when the rage gets good lol, I believe he goes on for a good 30 mins of crying.

Can you link me to it? I need some good laughs, our server got played by the RNG gods again.

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Posted by: Aioros.4862

Aioros.4862

Oh God, the spvp forum is full of ranger QQ …..

Brace yourselves, the nerfs are coming!

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

I just hit 80 on my thief on the weekend, so I’m covered.

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Posted by: Mastermavrick.2439

Mastermavrick.2439

oh god funny post, thanks for this and people were always wondering why i played spirit master for so long when i bother to spvp. Now they finally have an idea why. Does remember me of how in one of my first tournies (6months back) they kittened at me for my low score. I explained i was contesting a point a whole match (we won) without dieing of course i’ll no score.

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