Guild Wars 2

snow.8097:

wolfey, unprofessional
in my eyes, as a main ranger and just plaing other classes for the pvp tonics, i say most of the nerfs were legit.
Only thing i agree was the movement nerf to spirits. But there is hope that they can fix them to make them balanced and not too strong like in old times.

its not about “lets keep OP things on ranger”, its about making ALL classes balanced.
is now SB unplayable? I think not, its still a solid weapon
Every knockback needs an animation, thats fact, who argues against it, wants their own class to be stronger than others and are not capable of a neutral job as a specialist.
EVERY class got traits moved around, lot of them lost some decent traits or stats (ricochet – thief, boon duration – guard, etc.)

The jade maw is almost to all AI a kittenbag, i mean spirit weapon, phantasms and ele pets are also targets. Is Mes, Ele and Co. neglected by anet? Nope.

I read this forum threads and see the PvP player community and come to a conclusion. Rangers are hated. Not just because of the problems, or old habits of veterans “ranger was always hated, so i continue”, its because we got incredible strong mechanics, are in a good spot now and NEVERTHELESS, rangers cant stop QQing about everything.
Our main problem PvP-wise, is that we have so less group support, it is likely that druid will change this. To be balanced Id say to tone down our 1v1 abilitys
With Spike trap, low CD taunt, high condi cleanse, high uptime on regen, a lot of CC from canines and 2 good invul skills and etc. it is hard to not win fair 1v1.

It is time for rangers to think about tweaks and small changes instead of hard buffs and overhauls.

So you don’t play ranger. don’t worry you are not especial, this forums are full of people that play ranger from time to time in casual farmin and come here saying nosense. At least you are honest and admit you don’t really play ranger which i appreciate.

Ranger does not need tweaks ti needs an desperate overwaul and this community has being more than willing to do give pointers as you can find t¡in the forums hundreds of threads with some points to fix the most detestable broken mechanics in this class.

• Pets are still bad. The last power creep solved the probelms with trash mobs, the pets still die instantly when in a champion, boss or any player.
• There are a lot of broken traits that have not synergy or offer any help.
• all the condition cleanses are in one trait line
• Most of the utility skills are just trash. Only good are survivable, being some shouts after if your trait them.
• Ranger has just one choice when talking about melee: Greatsword. The other weapons are just broken (sword) or simply to weak/slow.
• Ranged weapons the only choice is LB. Not only because is the only weapon that does some damage (ranged or melee) but also because is the only weapon that offer ranged AoE without LoS althoug is pretty weak.
• Ranger do not have access to might. (clarion bond every 30 seconds is not worth mentioning and most dangerous game is just a bad joke from the guy that did the balance in the engineer)
• Ranger have no access to mobility (shadow step, teleport or whatever) only to swiftness, so it can not dissengage when needed.
• Ranger does not have good access to healing. The trap is just weird, the survival does not work because when you need healing is at the spot not when you finished the fight, the shout takes like 1.5 seconds to cast.

Just try to play high rank PvP (not random Pugs learning how to play their class) so you can really enjoy the synergy and the OP that ranger is.

UP, i heard of a way to prevent the problem in fractals, wait i look in old testaments…
oh there is something thats called…pet swap…fascinating
the skull is highly telegraphed and you should be able to just switch ur pet
that the pet dies fast against special mobs is known, but personally i wouldnt send my pets to such mobs and use them wisely, like f2 for right moment and such.
i rarely play pve as a ranger nowadays. the AR should be adressed, no one can neglect that

i think rumors said there is another thing that can help u…oh F3 sends ur pet back?
micro managment is something that some people really need to learn. i dont say thats 100% helping, but sometimes u need to blame yourself for ur ability to play with ur pet.

and again pet swap is a nice friend in such situations.
the sword is a…be prepared i say it…l2p issue. yes it is, i played power LB-SA months before the pewpew update and could kill people pretty well. we have no luxury like GS aa evade, but another low cd evade on #3 and for good ones the #2, and when its not enough for you, a dagger #4.

i just read 0815 arguments since…always.

ranger just needs some good group support with druid and we will see rangers again in high class pvp
the only thing we lack in are good player. Eura and Hiro are my hope for Muricah, while ROM and…i always forget his name… for EU, but both play rather warrior in Tourneys.

snow.8097:

wolfey, unprofessional

How so?
How is listing things unprofessional?
How is disagreeing with you unprofessional?

If you feel this is Unprofessional, you may contact Gaile and request my termination.

anduriell.6280:

• Ranger does not have good access to healing. The trap is just weird, the survival does not work because when you need healing is at the spot not when you finished the fight, the shout takes like 1.5 seconds to cast.

They ruined Healing Spring, but saying that Troll Unguent and Heal as One is bad is just wrong. Especially complaining about Troll Unguent not being a burst heal when it is not supposed to act as one is rather ridiculous.

Appart from fixing Healing Spring, the Water Spirit is only heal skill with serious reasons to complain about. That skill was pure crap even before taking into consideration all the other spirit problems. HaO and TU are good, and even better when traited.

snow.8097:

the only thing we lack in are good player. Eura and Hiro are my hope for Muricah, while ROM and…i always forget his name… for EU, but both play rather warrior in Tourneys.

And you know why ROM only plays warrior in tournaments? Because he flat out said during the last WTS that the ranger isn’t in a good spot at the moment.

That’s pretty much the opposite of what you just said. Now, isn’t that funny.

Lazze.9870:

anduriell.6280:

• Ranger does not have good access to healing. The trap is just weird, the survival does not work because when you need healing is at the spot not when you finished the fight, the shout takes like 1.5 seconds to cast.

They ruined Healing Spring, but saying that Troll Unguent and Heal as One is bad is just flat out wrong. Especially complaining about Troll Unguent not being a burst heal when it is not supposed to act as one is rather ridiculous.

Appart from fixing Healing Spring, the Water Spirit is only heal skill with serious reasons to complain about. That skill was flat out crap before taking into consideration all the other spirit problems. HaO and TU are good, and even better when traited.

Those healing skills are just bad. Indeed comparing them to the other ones we have (water spirit and healing spring) HaO and TU seems they are really great.
Don’t be fooled: Heal as One has like a delay aftercast in the casting it supposed to take as long as the troll unguent but it does actually take longer to cast. What can kill you most of the times.
Troll Unguent is not supposed to be a burst healing that’s right. In any case the healing by tick is really low, although the total is higher than HaO is not going to save you in any circunstance. 900 healing per tick for 10 seconds is not enough when any player/champion can do +2K damage with the AA. Usually with our defences you are dead before of that time.
I can’t see any use for that skill other than casual farming trash mobs, which is not bad but not having a reliable healing skill make this even worst.

anduriell.6280:

Don’t be fooled

I’m not, I just happen to play the class better than you do.

Traited Troll Unguent ticks for 850 health per sec with no healing power for 10 seconds on a 20 second cooldown. To put it simply, that’s warrior Healing Signet levels on average just based on healing. Then you have condi cleanse and fury on top of it.

Lazze.9870:

anduriell.6280:

Don’t be fooled

I’m not, I just happen to play the class better than you do.

Traited Troll Unguent ticks for 850 health per sec with no healing power for 10 seconds on a 20 second cooldown. To put it simply, that’s warrior Healing Signet levels on average just based on healing. Then you have condi cleanse and fury on top of it.

This info is misleading and wrong:
Healing signet heals 850 tick on the top of a burst healing when you activate it. So you have a passive healing and when you need it you can have the burst. For me this is ok, and more in the warrior that have many more sources of self-healing.

With TU you are limited to that healing for 10 seconds. You end up with the same or lower health than when you cast it and have to wait for another 10 seconds to be able to cast it.

Fury is irrelevant when we are talking about a healing skill, cleanse 2 conditions if traited is some help, but the problem of a weak healing is still there. ¿Seems you only play ranger in SW? HaO is better healing than TU even without the trait, simply because we don’t have another source of healing unless you trait shouts that in that case, why would you take TU?