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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Not to mention i could always move the 20 points from WS into BM and still have similar burst to your signets and also guarantee my pets going to wreck you with his next hit (his next attack is ALSO a crit when i refresh remorseless and with sig of the hunt that’s a double crit)

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Posted by: Killsmith.8169

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I like the build, but the only issue I have is that you have an incredible crit damage and almost no crit chance. If you swap out the cavalier for knights your damage goes up a lot.

Remorseless is a guaranteed crit every 9.5s

Nevermind.

You’re right though. A guaranteed crit every 9.5 seconds is about 11% crit chance on a longbow. The benefit is that you can pick the hit that criticals. That’s important in a PvP setting, maybe not as much in a PvE setting.

It’s important in both, not to mention you can make sure that 1000+ range longbow shot crits, and that’s going to HURT, i’ve seen those things hit for double digits before, GG if you get hit by one of those while you have 25 vuln and that ranger was given 25 might lol

I edited my post a little. The thing to keep in mind is that remorseless competes with signet of the beastmaster. If you want to control burst, why not take the crit on weapon swap sigil and pop SotH and SotW?

Because i like to not be a one trick pony who activates all my skills for my burst and would much rather pop one 9.5s CD skill that’s both a shield and a sword and use my utilities to inhibit my enemies from killing me.

Doesn’t matter how hard you can hit for your 10s of strength when i can just slip away and keep up my remorseless and relentless assault from afar.

You can make the same argument for the signets. You can get stability, invulnerability, movement speed, and damage from them. Both builds have merit offensively and defensively. Neither is denied the use of hunter’s shot. Neither is forced into 20 WS either so both could take 20 in BM.

You can pull off the same trick with sigils but with the added benefit of further augmenting them when you feel like it. The drawback is that you’ve used up your sigil and you can’t do two crits in rapid succession, the second crit being against a target with 10 stacks of vulnerability.

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Posted by: Apollo.7583

Apollo.7583

Will piercing Hunters Shot de-stealth a ranger in zerg fights though?

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Posted by: Valin.4527

Valin.4527

Will piercing Hunters Shot de-stealth a ranger in zerg fights though?

….or will it stack duration? /drool

Hey, a guy can dream….

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Will piercing Hunters Shot de-stealth a ranger in zerg fights though?

….or will it stack duration? /drool

Hey, a guy can dream….

already confirmed NOT to stack by dev

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Posted by: Valin.4527

Valin.4527

Like I said, it’s nice to dream….but this is totally bringing my Ranger back into WvW.

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Posted by: Burnfall.9573

Burnfall.9573

This is a Total Suprised to the Ranger class.

Of Course!

I’m Surprised and Happy by all of this as well.

I start to feel Arena net sbow of Care hasn’t been lost for us Rangers.

The word Favoritism “will soon by something of the past:”

My Hope, (as I already had mentioned before), is for Arena net to be True and Devoted to the Ranger class.

Afterall

They are our only Hope and Redemption.

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Posted by: Gaslov.9164

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So I 1v1 a ranger in WvW yesterday and had to google how the heck this guy was disappearing every ~15 seconds. He won and let me tell you that crap is incredibly annoying for anyone who isn’t using a lot of DOT damage.

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Posted by: Aveneo.2068

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So I 1v1 a ranger in WvW yesterday and had to google how the heck this guy was disappearing every ~15 seconds. He won and let me tell you that crap is incredibly annoying for anyone who isn’t using a lot of DOT damage.

If you find that annoying, I wonder if you ever tried fighting a Thief who can go into indefinite stealth-mode whenever they want.

Ranger just has a “poor man’s stealth” on his Longbow which is more like a gimmick and not something that should cause you to lose a 1v1. Unless you were playing a character without any ranged weapon and the Ranger was kiting you around at 1500 range.

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

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So I 1v1 a ranger in WvW yesterday and had to google how the heck this guy was disappearing every ~15 seconds. He won and let me tell you that crap is incredibly annoying for anyone who isn’t using a lot of DOT damage.

If you find that annoying, I wonder if you ever tried fighting a Thief who can go into indefinite stealth-mode whenever they want.

Ranger just has a “poor man’s stealth” on his Longbow which is more like a gimmick and not something that should cause you to lose a 1v1. Unless you were playing a character without any ranged weapon and the Ranger was kiting you around at 1500 range.

It would be silly if anybody wasn’t using a ranged weapon in this game. You need a close range and a long range weapon to really keep yourself safe in WvW. Even in dungeons it’s a smart move to keep a long range weapon on you at all times, since you never know when you’re going to have to kite enemies because somebody died.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

So I 1v1 a ranger in WvW yesterday and had to google how the heck this guy was disappearing every ~15 seconds. He won and let me tell you that crap is incredibly annoying for anyone who isn’t using a lot of DOT damage.

If you find that annoying, I wonder if you ever tried fighting a Thief who can go into indefinite stealth-mode whenever they want.

Ranger just has a “poor man’s stealth” on his Longbow which is more like a gimmick and not something that should cause you to lose a 1v1. Unless you were playing a character without any ranged weapon and the Ranger was kiting you around at 1500 range.

It would be silly if anybody wasn’t using a ranged weapon in this game. You need a close range and a long range weapon to really keep yourself safe in WvW. Even in dungeons it’s a smart move to keep a long range weapon on you at all times, since you never know when you’re going to have to kite enemies because somebody died.

Or you’re a you know, D/D ele or a guardian who tend to be locked into Melee, or a thief whose ranged option doesn’t even touch you if you’re kiting at 1500…

But hey, that’s why those guys have some sexy gap closers!

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

RyuDragnier.9476

So I 1v1 a ranger in WvW yesterday and had to google how the heck this guy was disappearing every ~15 seconds. He won and let me tell you that crap is incredibly annoying for anyone who isn’t using a lot of DOT damage.

If you find that annoying, I wonder if you ever tried fighting a Thief who can go into indefinite stealth-mode whenever they want.

Ranger just has a “poor man’s stealth” on his Longbow which is more like a gimmick and not something that should cause you to lose a 1v1. Unless you were playing a character without any ranged weapon and the Ranger was kiting you around at 1500 range.

It would be silly if anybody wasn’t using a ranged weapon in this game. You need a close range and a long range weapon to really keep yourself safe in WvW. Even in dungeons it’s a smart move to keep a long range weapon on you at all times, since you never know when you’re going to have to kite enemies because somebody died.

Or you’re a you know, D/D ele or a guardian who tend to be locked into Melee, or a thief whose ranged option doesn’t even touch you if you’re kiting at 1500…

But hey, that’s why those guys have some sexy gap closers!

Exactly. Those closers. <3

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Posted by: Gaslov.9164

Gaslov.9164

So I 1v1 a ranger in WvW yesterday and had to google how the heck this guy was disappearing every ~15 seconds. He won and let me tell you that crap is incredibly annoying for anyone who isn’t using a lot of DOT damage.

If you find that annoying, I wonder if you ever tried fighting a Thief who can go into indefinite stealth-mode whenever they want.

Ranger just has a “poor man’s stealth” on his Longbow which is more like a gimmick and not something that should cause you to lose a 1v1. Unless you were playing a character without any ranged weapon and the Ranger was kiting you around at 1500 range.

I’m not implying it’s overpowered. I came back to GW2 after about a six month break from the game and was not prepared for the disappearing act.