Give the Rev a greatsword
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Oh, great, so an even more useless weapon not even used for large scale WvW because hybrid weapons are trash only used for duels or gimick spvp builds.
Oh man, then I must be using must be using them wrong because warrior Lb, and thief Sb,IMO, are some of the better designed ranged weapons in the game. Yes there are some bad hybrid weapons, but is that better than having no option at all and being stuck with one range weapon?
So what hero would that bennefit?
Shiro? makes no sense
Jalis? would be amusing but probably not
Glint? probable but that’s what shield is tied too directly….
Ventari? nah he’s a healer
Mallyx? MaybeI can see Revenant getting it as an Elite Specialization weapon, for what legend that would be… i have no clue o.O ….. maybe Jora? (Inb4 the WoW kids cry about a GW1 hero)
Does it need to be tied to a legend though? If they did add this new weapon to the core Rev my vote would be to tie to the Rev’s Invocation(if that makes sense), or not tie it to a legend at all. It does make sense that it would be tied an Elite Spec, but I think that is a bunch of kitten to hide something that all classes already have behind another Xpac. (Assuming that is when we will get the new elite specs)
Thief shortbow is not a remotely hybrid weapon, its coefficients are largely skewed to power and no condi thief build runs it. The poison is there for the downed, and you rarely use clusterbomb anyways except for aoe, and the brunt of the damage is power damage with marginal bleeds.
Warrior longbow is only used in spvp, virtually in every other game format warrior runs GS and x/shield.
Warrior longbow also has huge power coefficients on arcing shot and its burst skill, and the only reason it doesn’t suck as a hybrid weapon is because burning as a condition has high baseline damage, unlike bleeds or poison or even worse, torment/confusion.
Quite frankly warrior longbow works for warriors due to pinning shot synergizing with their burst skills and the huge damage of arcing shot, not because it is a hybrid weapon.
I’m pretty sure most warriors would be pretty happy if longbow would be a complete power weapon like greatsword, it would do even more damage.
Hybrid weapons suck in GW2, because GW2 does not do scaling well for hybrid stats. Hybrid stats means less stats, which is less scaling. So effectively less damage.
(edited by Zenith.7301)
It’s all just speculations and empty discussions till Anet hears us. I honestly would be happy with any weapon, even if it’s a copy paste of other class weapon skills with added energy cost or another useless useless mainhand/offhand as long as it gives us some choice. At the moment the class is so boring builds/variety wise (in any mode), many who chose to play a bit eventually come back to their mains.
Blocking the condi ranged weapon with elite spec would be bull and hard to justify considering all other classes have access to this degree of variety….unless they make hammer like grenades or warrior longbow (good at both pure dps and condi dps).
Oh, great, so an even more useless weapon not even used for large scale WvW because hybrid weapons are trash only used for duels or gimick spvp builds.
Oh man, then I must be using must be using them wrong because warrior Lb, and thief Sb,IMO, are some of the better designed ranged weapons in the game. Yes there are some bad hybrid weapons, but is that better than having no option at all and being stuck with one range weapon?
So what hero would that bennefit?
Shiro? makes no sense
Jalis? would be amusing but probably not
Glint? probable but that’s what shield is tied too directly….
Ventari? nah he’s a healer
Mallyx? MaybeI can see Revenant getting it as an Elite Specialization weapon, for what legend that would be… i have no clue o.O ….. maybe Jora? (Inb4 the WoW kids cry about a GW1 hero)
Does it need to be tied to a legend though? If they did add this new weapon to the core Rev my vote would be to tie to the Rev’s Invocation(if that makes sense), or not tie it to a legend at all. It does make sense that it would be tied an Elite Spec, but I think that is a bunch of kitten to hide something that all classes already have behind another Xpac. (Assuming that is when we will get the new elite specs)
Thief shortbow is not a remotely hybrid weapon, its coefficients are largely skewed to power and no condi thief build runs it. The poison is there for the downed, and you rarely use clusterbomb anyways except for aoe, and the brunt of the damage is power damage with marginal bleeds.
Warrior longbow is only used in spvp, virtually in every other game format warrior runs GS and x/shield.
Warrior longbow also has huge power coefficients on arcing shot and its burst skill, and the only reason it doesn’t suck as a hybrid weapon is because burning as a condition has high baseline damage, unlike bleeds or poison or even worse, torment/confusion.
Quite frankly warrior longbow works for warriors due to pinning shot synergizing with their burst skills and the huge damage of arcing shot, not because it is a hybrid weapon.
I’m pretty sure most warriors would be pretty happy if longbow would be a complete power weapon like greatsword, it would do even more damage.
Hybrid weapons suck in GW2, because GW2 does not do scaling well for hybrid stats. Hybrid stats means less stats, which is less scaling. So effectively less damage.
While the above covers longbow,one thing I would like is that grenades from engi is another example of a hibrid weapon (kit) done right which sees action frequently in both power builds and condi builds. Also I would like to remind the above that warrior shoutbow is also a thing for WvW (not so much in sPvP with the removal of settlers).
(edited by Jack Skywalker.5674)
Even then I hope we never get a ranged weapon. All ranged weapons besides ele staff and necro scepter are trash in PvE.
I hope we do even if it is trash in PvE at least we will have more than one ranged weapon to choose from.
It does not even have to be a full condi weapon. It can be a hybrid like the warrior’s Long-bow.
Oh, great, so an even more useless weapon not even used for large scale WvW because hybrid weapons are trash only used for duels or gimick spvp builds.
Rev’s hammer was a gorgeous AoE weapon for WvW until Anet patches nerfed it to irrelevance, making it useless in every other game mode.
I would chose a good single target ranged condi or hybrid weapon over any other kind of weapon for Rev, specially taking in consideration that the new specilization will prevent us from use Glint, so you can bet that the next spec will be crap at PvE, anyway.
The only difference between hammer then and now is that hammer was doing ridiculous damage. Its not like it lost utility like shield. Its not damage that hammer needs but utility
Ranged dagger(s) would be pretty sweet, and could be part of Shiro/assasin theme.
On topic, while I -really- want a greatsword for my Revenant, I’d save it for the introduction of a new legend. If we end up with a reforged Caladbolg, maybe we can end up with a Riannoc Legendary Knight Stance, or insert your preferred greatsword-wielding lore figure.
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Ranged dagger(s) would be pretty sweet, and could be part of Shiro/assasin theme.
On topic, while I -really- want a greatsword for my Revenant, I’d save it for the introduction of a new legend. If we end up with a reforged Caladbolg, maybe we can end up with a Riannoc Legendary Knight Stance, or insert your preferred greatsword-wielding lore figure.
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