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Posted by: Kirochique.9186

Kirochique.9186

Hey all, just after HOT came out I came up with a D/D perm evade condi thief build.
It was the best build ever.
Every game type became 100x easier, Jumping into mobs or champs solo in PvE became a pretty simple thing to do because my Endurance was recharged every time something died.
PvP and WvW for a good few month there the build had no hard counter, I couldn’t find a single person who could best me solo and most times even duo, hell I took on havoc teams alone and won due to the Stamina Sigil activating when I finished an enemy.
Eventually other classes evened out with time, but it is still a very tough build to beat.

I’m now faced with a problem. I can’t play any other class as well. Or any other thief build. I want to swap into Power thief now but am having a lot of trouble adjusting to the squishiness in PvE and it has made the game a lot more slow and drawn out then it was when I had my Evade thief.

I need a good solid not as squish power build that can still take down foes fast. Any suggestions? (Runes, Stats, Weapons, and Traits) anything to help me ease back into a Power thief?

Jhadir the Charr Thief (ET) EradonTerrace
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Posted by: martin.1653

martin.1653

Standard D/P build makes for fairly interesting and decent gameplay and isn’t cheesy. Take Marauder to gain some HP.
With dash you got tons of mobility. With other spinny-jumpy-damage one you get more damage and easier stealth. Either works. Just preference. Most people take Dash with D/P.
D/P It’s mostly focused on single target, but if you get sorounded by mobs just pistol 5 to keep them blinded.
Staff is also strong, but then again it’s another evade build pretty much.
Power D/D isn’t bad either, it’s stealth focused so you gotta practice them backstabs and landing 5.
Runes all depend, Scholar is always good option (still expensive?). I took Traveler when I didn’t have access to swiftness. And even played Infiltration some time time, it’s cheap so you can test it out (gets you 12-13% damage on enemies lower than 50%, and is decent in combination with Executioner trait).
Exact traits and 6-10 skills would all depend on PvP or PvE

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Posted by: Vornollo.5182

Vornollo.5182

Staff works for PvE and to some (lesser, though that’s arguable) extent in PvP and WvW.
S/P can also do relatively well, especially if you got the Critical Strikes traitline for Invigorating Precision.
S/D is probably not your kind of set, given it tends to be low speed/damage.

Best thing you could do (in my opinion) would be to use the meta D/P build in PvP/WvW and use the same gear for Staff in PvE, only requiring some trait changes.
So pretty much like Martin mentioned above.

There’s also a pretty interesting Power D/D build for PvE, where you put Daggers in opposite Weaponslots so that you can run with Quick Pockets in Trickery to keep up your Initiative for constant CnD’s → Backstabs. It’s not too useful in PvP/WvW though.

All that said, you’ll just have to pull through when you step from condi (back) into power, simply because all power builds got less access to sustainable stats (just compare something like Dire, Carrion or Trailblazer to Berserker or Marauder sets…)

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

This is the build I run in PvE and it basically never dies. It also hits like a truck:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZEQNAW6an8laZiSnENZjTmmwwJvTQ/k/JLUFVXPFAHwc1v9l/WOOYVHA-TxCBQBaU5HEOCA6T3ADOYARb/hLp+DAuAAb4ACcSlgyTDTAeAAfDIAGCQAsWr1a1QIECBpAEYBA-e

Use Staff for most mobs and Pistols when dealing with a particularly nasty melee hitter. Condi in some fights can be an issue but typically SoA, Shadow Step and Pain Response do the trick.

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Posted by: Dane.9480

Dane.9480

If you wanna run around in WvW flipping camps … Staff does the trick just great :p

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

I play the same build in Pve (Perma condi evade with sigil of stamina)

Lord is it amazing… I don’t see why you’d want to switch haha.

For SPVP i use a P/P build. It’s a variant of the D/P meta build…same everything except you’re using PP instead. I swap blinding powder for shadow trap though, i find it very useful for sneaky decapping…which makes up for the lack of stealth in the build.

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

Bounding Dodger/Vault Acro staff works the same as your D.D condi theif, spam dodge and one button, but being power you get to see nice big numbers

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Posted by: Wargameur.6950

Wargameur.6950

You can do like me,

I learned thief the hard way with berserker/assassin stats for a few weeks in pvp. Then I swaped back to usual builds, marauder stats and suddenly meta builds where incredibly tanky to me !

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