Guild Wars 2

Ive been running a P/D build already, but wanted to change it up and came up with

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUm6OHfy5E/5EB3Dnm0m6p4rjtTBW1KA;TsAg2CrosxYjwGrNObk2sOYEw8AA

I gave up just a little bit of condition dmg for more heals. I was testing this in the some spvp matches and pretty much theres a whole lot of toughness but only 13k hp. the thing is pretty much everytime you stealth before your sneak attack, you lose conditions and pretty much healed to full health everytime. Even with the low hp i had alot of the survival even from burst.

I was testing this out to try and use for WvWvW but i realized that the gears in the TP Has Vit/Healing/Condition dmg instead of Toughness/Healing/Condition dmg, was wondering if anyone has tried anything similar to this and how it went.

You’re pretty much running the same thing I am. I’m a P/D Condition thief and one of the things that I need to do is stack bleeds as often as I can. My advice for you, regardless of WvW,PvE,PvP is to get rid of Roll for Initiative and Blinding Power for Caltrops & Shadow Refuge. I rarely use all of my Initiative as I stealth as often as I can to get the Might stacks and to constantly use Sneak Attack (which lays even more bleeds).

Take a look at this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUmKP3ey5E/5EB3Dnm0m6p4rjtTBW1KA;TsAgyCuomxAjAGrPuZk+sOYEw8AA

There’s also a video around of a P/D thief using this build in sPvP. So forgo toughness when getting your gear. You want Power/Vit/Condition. The key to this build is stacking might from dodging/stealth and increasing bleeds via caltrops/sneak attack. You can easily stack up 20 bleeds with over 100dmg each.

that pretty much just almost brings me back to the previous buid, i was kinda steering towards more survivabilty and using our stealth to do that with different sets of gears for the high health regen.

I can’t get to those links now but I love my P/D build for WvW and it’s very defensive.

10 Deadly (mug)
30 Shadow (regen, con removal, stealth healing)
30 Acro (50% fall dmg, Pain response, Hard to Catch)

I use P/V/T armor and P/V/Cdmg everything else.

You don’t see 3 didget bleeds very often but everybody dies eventually and you have over 20K health and over 2500 armor so you can take a massive beating.

Abilities are Hide in Shadows, Shadowstep, SR, Sig of Shadows, Thieves guild.

Suralin.3947:

You’re pretty much running the same thing I am. I’m a P/D Condition thief and one of the things that I need to do is stack bleeds as often as I can. My advice for you, regardless of WvW,PvE,PvP is to get rid of Roll for Initiative and Blinding Power for Caltrops & Shadow Refuge. I rarely use all of my Initiative as I stealth as often as I can to get the Might stacks and to constantly use Sneak Attack (which lays even more bleeds).

Take a look at this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUmKP3ey5E/5EB3Dnm0m6p4rjtTBW1KA;TsAgyCuomxAjAGrPuZk+sOYEw8AA

There’s also a video around of a P/D thief using this build in sPvP. So forgo toughness when getting your gear. You want Power/Vit/Condition. The key to this build is stacking might from dodging/stealth and increasing bleeds via caltrops/sneak attack. You can easily stack up 20 bleeds with over 100dmg each.

Why sigil of superior venom on the dagger?

I sometimes go 20-0-30-20-0 and pick up some venom utilities

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYQQNAqYVlcmKP3ey5E+5EB3Dnq0m6p4rotTxVlPA;TUAgyCusKYswMAA

Wouldn’t D/D still be better for bleed stacking?

Kyosji.8961:

Wouldn’t D/D still be better for bleed stacking?

P/D synergises better with a “stealth spam” type build.

If your looking to mix things up.

Try Power/Vitality/Condition

You won’t notice a huge drop in survivability but will notice a huge leap in damage.

Remember, even a tanky thief is squishier then most classes if you aren’t using your evades correctly.

Hi guys,

Out of curiosity, with your P/D builds, do you run into the issue of Stealth immediately failing right after hitting it? I get the benefits of having stealthed (like the buffs from traits and initiative), but my stealth will immediately drop and I will have the revealed debuff.

If you are also experiencing this, how are you countering it? It’s very frustrating for me.

Thanks!

It doesn’t take that long for the revealed buff to go away, rotation is, sneak attack 2 auto attacks CnD repeat, maybe your just hitting CnD a bit too early

Fnar.7064:

Hi guys,

Out of curiosity, with your P/D builds, do you run into the issue of Stealth immediately failing right after hitting it? I get the benefits of having stealthed (like the buffs from traits and initiative), but my stealth will immediately drop and I will have the revealed debuff.

If you are also experiencing this, how are you countering it? It’s very frustrating for me.

Thanks!

This is the annoying issue with the 5 point shadow trait. You hit 25% heath during a C&D animation so blinding powder goes off then you connect with C&D which is technically an attack while in stealth giving you revealed.

Best bet is if you can help it, stop attacking when close to 25% and let it happen.

Use condition duration runes and go deep into trickery. Use caltrops on dodge and the caltrops skill. I had alot of fun with that build today, got 27 kills and 10 caps, around 550 points. Best game I had so far, also won 2 tournaments with PUG’s.

Try Shadow Trap its a lot better than you would think.

I would take 5 off trickery and put it into Deadly Arts for the apply poison upon stealing. That why he loses 33% healing potential, meaning your bleeds kill him quite a bit faster.

Loading.4503:

Ive been running a P/D build already, but wanted to change it up and came up with

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUm6OHfy5E/5EB3Dnm0m6p4rjtTBW1KA;TsAg2CrosxYjwGrNObk2sOYEw8AA

I gave up just a little bit of condition dmg for more heals. I was testing this in the some spvp matches and pretty much theres a whole lot of toughness but only 13k hp. the thing is pretty much everytime you stealth before your sneak attack, you lose conditions and pretty much healed to full health everytime. Even with the low hp i had alot of the survival even from burst.

I was testing this out to try and use for WvWvW but i realized that the gears in the TP Has Vit/Healing/Condition dmg instead of Toughness/Healing/Condition dmg, was wondering if anyone has tried anything similar to this and how it went.

There is toughness/healing/condition gear its called apothecary. The jewels for it are expensive though so I would vest in the armor instead and put your p/v/t jewels in there.

Take the the sigil of poison off the dagger your not running venoms or even have poison on still and you have no points in power for duration or runes for duration. That sigil is a waste 10% isn’t doing anything for you. Take the 20% with 2 agony on your main and off hand. On bow put whatever you like but I wouldn’t use poison duration really 10% isn’t doing much for you unless you use SB really often in WvW.

Suralin.3947:

You’re pretty much running the same thing I am.  I’m a P/D Condition thief and one of the things that I need to do is stack bleeds as often as I can.  My advice for you, regardless of WvW,PvE,PvP is to get rid of Roll for Initiative and Blinding Power for Caltrops & Shadow Refuge.  I rarely use all of my Initiative as I stealth as often as I can to get the Might stacks and to constantly use Sneak Attack (which lays even more bleeds).

Take a look at this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUmKP3ey5E/5EB3Dnm0m6p4rjtTBW1KA;TsAgyCuomxAjAGrPuZk+sOYEw8AA

There’s also a video around of a P/D thief using this build in sPvP.  So forgo toughness when getting your gear.  You want Power/Vit/Condition.  The key to this build is stacking might from dodging/stealth and increasing bleeds via caltrops/sneak attack.  You can easily stack up 20 bleeds with over 100dmg each.

You have the link to that vid? I am wondering why you would run basilks venom for an elite.

Yea this post is old before I was 80 and wasn’t aware of the different types of gear. the build I have on there was kind of messed up cause I was messing with the build creator and didn’t look at it a second time before I posted it, maybe should’ve have done that first lol