Highest Backstab Damage?

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Posted by: Vexus.5423

Vexus.5423

Edited again
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#Mckzzc0MMoLvmMoLvmpa0apVsMMmV

Basic Setup:
1. Apply Basilisk Poison
2. Dodge twice for 2 stacks Might (+ 70 power)
3. Activate 3 Signets for 15 stacks Might (+ 525 power)
3a. Hide in Shadows to Stealth
4. Steal to target for 1 stack Might (+ 35 power)
5. Steal applies Poison, Basilisk
6. Backstab

You gain:
+ 635 power
+ 150% damage from Assassin’s Signet
+ 10% due to condition applied (steal poison)
+ 5% dagger damage
+ 13% damage due to initiative
+ 5% attacking from the back

Trade-off is no guaranteed critical from stealth. My thinking is to get the absolute most power out of the hit, stacking power, precision, and critical damage gear so you’ll crit most of the time anyway.

I think it’s the highest damage output theorycrafting.

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Posted by: GummiBear.2756

GummiBear.2756

you should be able to actually activate 4 signets (3 utilities+heal signet)

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Posted by: Vexus.5423

Vexus.5423

Oh Signet of Malice heal skill. Adjust +175 power.

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Posted by: Amiray.1845

Amiray.1845

What’s the highest crit you’ve gotten off this? Seems interesting.

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Posted by: Vexus.5423

Vexus.5423

Theorycrafting here at work suffering from withdrawals. Gotta check it later

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Posted by: Vexus.5423

Vexus.5423

Ok so this is a tough one. It doesn’t work as you have no way into Stealth with no Steal/2sec stealth trait.

Need to find the Stealth somewhere, giving up damage for the stealth, possibly putting back the heal to Hide in Shadows – need to turn off autoattack too.

The question is, Hide in Shadows(losing 175 power), or Points in Shadow Arts(losing 35 power + 13% damage).

Pretty sure the power loss is the least effect. Need Hide in Shadows.

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Posted by: Amiray.1845

Amiray.1845

Well you have cloak and dagger the dd 5 skill dont you?

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Posted by: lonewolf.2601

lonewolf.2601

I just tried it and although maybe you are right about getting good backstab damage, I can’t say it worked good on pvp. You also need to activate a lot of skills to make it work which is time consuming. Further more you lose too much crit rate.

I found the build on the link below work really good on pvp, too much crit and tons of damage. Don’t forget that with maximazing Critical Strikes you get a lot of boost on crit damage and with a high crit chance it suits perfect.

But I suppose the reason you made this topic wasn’t pvp in general, anyway try it out:
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#Mckzzc0MMoLvmMoLvmxx9MacsqzcqV

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Posted by: Vexus.5423

Vexus.5423

Ahh, Cloak and Dagger. I was thinking too much ‘surprise’. Yes, that is completely valid and gives the full damage per hit.

In terms of it being hard to pull off, yes it can be if you don’t bind keys. Even if you do, still tough. I think a macro might help hit them all at once, if that’s doable.

Yeah not for normal PvP, just thinking of how someone could make a video of the 3/10 times it works as intended strung together to make it look like it’s insane damage and amazing but really it only works 3/10 times, hehe.

It is possible that the extra crit damage in Critical Strikes (+ 10% more crit damage) might make up for the lack of the 2 dodge Mights (+ 70 power). I now believe it does. Plus giving you around 12% more crit with the 7% trait and 100 more Precision.

The title should say ‘… Backstab Opener’ because that’s what I am going for, although Cloak and Dagger is fine considering you can now use Steal to just get to range, or really just walk up to the guy. With Cloak and Dagger and the extra Signet you get the biggest hit. And I am sure someone could get a bigger hit maxing Critical Strikes and using Backstab against a low-health target (a 2% raw damage increase over the current setup, but with + 20% more critical damage). Again the goal was an opener; full health to nearly dead in a single hit.

You could even use stolen feathers now that I think about it. So all is still doable.