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Posted by: LionZero.3479

LionZero.3479

With the recent change of ’’fixing’’ porting spots for this skill mostly noticed for me in wvwvw as that’s where i spend most of my time, i feel this skill has pretty much become useless, as nearly all cliff ports are taken out and only a few wood structured ports remain, and we all know using this skill for a strait forward port is pretty useless and you’re better of just hsing or running d/p smokefield hs stealth or so.

So does anyone else feel this skill lost a lot of it’s value for when it was mainly used for these niche ports in the first place, most notible is probably the border NE tower – NE camp side that used to have a lot of spots to work with cliff port terrain.

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Posted by: Cyhann.2609

Cyhann.2609

Same thing with Shadowstep, yesterday, since Temple of the Silent Storm is in
the Turney right now, it totaly destroyed the most important skill I valued
in the game, and now it’s useless -.-….

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

yeah….considering the net range is about 600…..it also makes heartseeker twice as productive for distance vs init costs.

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Posted by: Velron.3729

Velron.3729

Yeah been noticing this too. I still run SB as my OH set, but its mostly for the cluster bomb (blast finisher for team combos) or the ability to infiltrator arrow out of immobilizes, etc

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

What?!!! Another nerf

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

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Posted by: Shemsu.8721

Shemsu.8721

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

Can you link the dev post that says teleports arent meant to change elevation or avoid obstacles? (portal says hi)

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

Can you link the dev post that says teleports arent meant to change elevation or avoid obstacles? (portal says hi)

And every other skill other than Mesmer portal says hi back…

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

But mesmer portal says hello there!

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Posted by: Shemsu.8721

Shemsu.8721

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

Can you link the dev post that says teleports arent meant to change elevation or avoid obstacles? (portal says hi)

And every other skill other than Mesmer portal says hi back…

So either portal is bugged, or all other ports are. Still not seeing a dev post saying teleport should be restricted against elevation and obstacles

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

Can you link the dev post that says teleports arent meant to change elevation or avoid obstacles? (portal says hi)

And every other skill other than Mesmer portal says hi back…

So either portal is bugged, or all other ports are. Still not seeing a dev post saying teleport should be restricted against elevation and obstacles

Mesmer Portal is mechanically different. the others aren’t. I’m sure they all use the same exact snippet of code.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

Can you link the dev post that says teleports arent meant to change elevation or avoid obstacles? (portal says hi)

And every other skill other than Mesmer portal says hi back…

So either portal is bugged, or all other ports are. Still not seeing a dev post saying teleport should be restricted against elevation and obstacles

Mesmer Portal is mechanically different. the others aren’t. I’m sure they all use the same exact snippet of code.

Either mesmer portal can be changed to use the exact same snippet of code. Or shadow steps can be reworked to use the same snippe of code that mesmer portal uses.

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Posted by: Cyhann.2609

Cyhann.2609

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

That wasn’t the bug they mentioned in the patch notes, also every pvp map was
designed to have a few of those teleports, based on the teleportation ruleset. (No Jumping etc.)
Also if it wasn’t meant to be like that, why is there a difference between leaps and teleports?

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Posted by: Mindtrick.5190

Mindtrick.5190

A friend and I tested this and ele and mes can still port on everything that shortbow can’t. I don’t see the issue with it to begin with. Letting a thief be mobile and able to scout and run away from zergs was legit. Anet you are starting down the wrong road a exodus is coming from all players and professions.

Lets add more RNG next!

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Posted by: EoNxBoNx.9213

EoNxBoNx.9213

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

If these were “bug fixes” then why did they wait 10 months to fix them? This was a direct nerf (not to only thieves) to teleports in general. There was some that should not have been there or that overlapped. But these should not have been classified as “bug fixes”.

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Posted by: Rastaman.9015

Rastaman.9015

So its not only me then. I have noticed some awkwardness in my attempts to teleport in wvw and failing. I had assumed I was just making a small mistake as to where the margin was. Guess it’s time for a new secondary. I’m think of going S/D to utilize shadow step and FS/LS. What do you guys have in mind?

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Posted by: Master of Timespace.2548

Master of Timespace.2548

Maybe make it so that shortbow 5# has 50% chance of getting you up stairs. Oh and 0.1% chance of dropping you into the Teleportania. Would fit to the current theme of the game.

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Shadow step from sword doesnt climb on cliffs anymore. E.g. at Greenlake tower towards the bridge to hill castle. on the left. You wont be able to port up there anymore. You will just get ported against the wall.

I am dropping SB for roaming solo. HS and IS (towards) a mob will do the same job.

Didnt they say they wanted to add more mobility to thieves? Not a very good start then.

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Posted by: Huygens.4075

Huygens.4075

It’s not a nerf, it’s a bug fix. It wasn’t meant to change elevation and avoid obstacles.

Now that said, I would argue that all of the shortbow’s skills should be 1200 so the effective range of 5 in particular wasn’t awful.

Can you link the dev post that says teleports arent meant to change elevation or avoid obstacles? (portal says hi)

And every other skill other than Mesmer portal says hi back…

So either portal is bugged, or all other ports are. Still not seeing a dev post saying teleport should be restricted against elevation and obstacles

Mesmer Portal is mechanically different. the others aren’t. I’m sure they all use the same exact snippet of code.

Either mesmer portal can be changed to use the exact same snippet of code. Or shadow steps can be reworked to use the same snippe of code that mesmer portal uses.

This guy sounds legit guys. I bet he knows java and everything.