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Posted by: Maggotpez.7598

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I just made a thief and I love cloak and dagger! Is there any good 1v1 builds that use dagger offhand that are not condi based? Mettaballe’s */d builds are not rated that well.

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Posted by: Impact.2780

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For what setting? PvP or WvW?

This is good for PvP, and can also work in WvW:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-cF3V;1Vw-_07-JOFd0;9;49;0TT2;612746BINl6L;1F-03F-035f

However, WvW thief builds tend to go into shadow arts for heal while in stealth, which is better suited to D/P and D/D. I rarely WvW so I can’t offer a proven build without searching for one.

Edit: You can also swap Infiltrator’s Signet or Signet of Agility for Shadowstep in that build.

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Here’s an old D/D stealth-based build in terms of weapons, skills and traits. As for gear in WvW I don’t know, but I’d imagine a mix of cavalier and valkyrie for the crit damage to work with hidden killer, and maybe a few knights or berserker pieces to up your crit chance a bit when not attacking from stealth.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c3RV;1Rw-_06-BOkd0;9;49TT;02;005B53A;4INl6L;1F-03F-03l

Again those utilities can be swapped a bit. Signet of Shadows, Signet of Agility, Shadow Trap, Roll for Initiative are all possibilities.

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Posted by: morbidillusion.2759

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The problem with Cloak and Dagger is that it is extremely unreliable. And, additionally, if you run D/D, you have absolutely no answer for the 3(4) seconds of revealed time on your weapon set (which is more than enough time for most classes to kill you).

S/D is a good build, but rarely uses CnD and mostly equips dagger because of the dual skill. As far as 1v1 builds go, it’s the best. Thief is a poor 1v1 class however, and you should be running away unless you’re fighting a thief or mesmer (inc noobs from other classes who play horrible specs and think thief can 1v1 every class at the same time, stomp 7 people at once, and one-shot keep lords).

With that said, if you like CnD you probably like on-demand stealth and not dodge spam, which is what S/D is all about. You have the option of going D/P and you get the benefit of having on-demand stealth without needing something to hit, but the trade off is that your stealth is now the most telegraphed move in the game and you are going to eat a lot off CC trying to do it.