Guild Wars 2

swinsk.6410:

Travlane.5948:

swinks is right but we arent useless….but close to it. and thats only in comparison to what other classes do in PVP. thiefs….eh if 8people put down ground skills or area CC its a thieves nightmare. just nto playable unless we go 22k hp and chill with sb. since backstab dmg is usually 5500 in spvp. and eeryone else DPS crits are like 3800 on high end. we arent exatly contributing AS much bc we can only do it for a moment. need to make us more sliperier in our traits i think. drop the 10% dmg in trickery and give us (50%) faster endurance regen. or some kind of thief armor that falls off after so much dmg (similar to necros life skill)

Your numbers you’ve stated here are really dependent on the build/runes you are using.

I have backstabbed people for over 22k in wvw as full burst against an up-leveled warrior.

In spvp I have backstabbed a warrior who was frenzied for 15k.

In spvp my backstab is anywhere from 5-6k to 9-11k depending on how bunkerish the opponent is.

The problem I have with the thief at the moment is that there is no “inbetween” build really.

Since the 3s got turned into 4s, it’s impossbile to run d/d as effective as d/p or even s/d.

That extra second kind of killed the semi-burst d/d thief.

hate to call bs but ive NEVER had any more than 12-13k on any lvl 80 zerker or non zerker build. 6500 roughly on steal sometiems more….7k on CnD …but its all armor specific . if u hit a lvl 80 for 22k he had noob armor on ….theres no way around that. if idk about spvp as 6500 is usually my max …but then again maybe i just dont fight many zerkers in there? idk . 4500-6500 is my norm max for BS in spvp. so steal for 2500 CND 4k adn 6k on backstab gets you to maybe 50% hp on a warrior and 50% on guardian due to lower dmg. then you are out of intiative and there on its all skill play by the thief. 4 secs will be going back in all but spvp ….mainly bc i think they refuse to admit and utter f up. but im just glad wvw is gonna be back. we are such fragile lil flowers. deadly thorns tho!

I am running jinzu build or sorts.

I have 9 stacks of might before I land BS and in WvW I have 25 stacks of bloodlust.

I’ve only hit for 15k once in spvp because it’s rare to fight warriors with frenzy atm due to nerf.

In wvw I hit that under leveled warior for 10k with steal alone and about 10k on CND as well.

These are just examples of “max” damage.

Using runes of scholar with D/D build.

You can definitely hit that but it’s rare and not the norm.

Like I said, my norm is 5-6k on the low and 9-11k on the high.

5-6k usually happens against guardians who are bunker and the the 9-11k on glass cannon thieves or mesmer/ele.

I run 30/30/0/0/10 with hidden killer for 100% crit and 5% damage from behind in the trickery line. Not the usual executioner+thrill of the crime build.

ahhh frenzy! so it was a 9k backstab iot sounds like. and if 5-6k is your low ur talking wvw. bc 11k shouldnt be a high in SPVP bc of the dmg nerf on everyone to amek it last, i also run that build about 25% of the itme

Travlane.5948:

swinsk.6410:

Travlane.5948:

swinks is right but we arent useless….but close to it. and thats only in comparison to what other classes do in PVP. thiefs….eh if 8people put down ground skills or area CC its a thieves nightmare. just nto playable unless we go 22k hp and chill with sb. since backstab dmg is usually 5500 in spvp. and eeryone else DPS crits are like 3800 on high end. we arent exatly contributing AS much bc we can only do it for a moment. need to make us more sliperier in our traits i think. drop the 10% dmg in trickery and give us (50%) faster endurance regen. or some kind of thief armor that falls off after so much dmg (similar to necros life skill)

Your numbers you’ve stated here are really dependent on the build/runes you are using.

I have backstabbed people for over 22k in wvw as full burst against an up-leveled warrior.

In spvp I have backstabbed a warrior who was frenzied for 15k.

In spvp my backstab is anywhere from 5-6k to 9-11k depending on how bunkerish the opponent is.

The problem I have with the thief at the moment is that there is no “inbetween” build really.

Since the 3s got turned into 4s, it’s impossbile to run d/d as effective as d/p or even s/d.

That extra second kind of killed the semi-burst d/d thief.

hate to call bs but ive NEVER had any more than 12-13k on any lvl 80 zerker or non zerker build. 6500 roughly on steal sometiems more….7k on CnD …but its all armor specific . if u hit a lvl 80 for 22k he had noob armor on ….theres no way around that. if idk about spvp as 6500 is usually my max …but then again maybe i just dont fight many zerkers in there? idk . 4500-6500 is my norm max for BS in spvp. so steal for 2500 CND 4k adn 6k on backstab gets you to maybe 50% hp on a warrior and 50% on guardian due to lower dmg. then you are out of intiative and there on its all skill play by the thief. 4 secs will be going back in all but spvp ….mainly bc i think they refuse to admit and utter f up. but im just glad wvw is gonna be back. we are such fragile lil flowers. deadly thorns tho!

The highest I’ve done is a 17k backstab. I didn’t even have Runes of the Scholar, nor did I use a build for maximum backstab. I’m sure with the right food and correct traits, 20k+ is achievable for sure.