Guild Wars 2

itamar.4690:

Thiefs can be explained by a simple sentence-
High risk high reward.
And thats about it.

“high” risk. Lul. wait, LOL!!!!

itamar.4690:

foofad.5162:

itamar.4690:

DanH.5879:

itamar.4690:

Thiefs can be explained by a simple sentence-
Low risk high reward.
And thats about it.

fixed it for you

In what way in hell thiefs have low risk?

In the sense that no matter what happens, you can pack enough condition clearing and stealth to escape virtually any situation in WvW, bar none. If there’s no chance of death, then the “risk” side of “risk versus reward” is rather limited in scope.

I see that you are a guardian, thief can easily escape a guardian, but in no way he should be able to kill him. obviously (you are here, “fixing” stuff in the forums) ur doing something wrong.
i assume ur a traditional MMO player so you wont be able to understand this, but in few circumstances this game is like a rock paper scissors.
rock>scissors>paper>rock etc
as a guardian you have problems against thiefs? a warrior would crush them (just an example) so just the fact that you as a guardian have a problem with thief doesnt apply to all the classes.
and just for the record, obviously you were just getting constantly outplayed by thiefs so this conversation is pointless

Such a poor response. The guy kept on subject whilst you go an make an assumption towards him about how bad he is being outplayed by thieves. You probably dont play anything other than a thief, so let me tell you how it is for non-thief professions. (war excluded). You pretty much cant escape anything. I have an 80 thief, 80 ele and 80 engi. You’ve got no idea how easy it is to reset a fight or simply run when you’re outnumbered or out skilled as a thief. Other classes cannot do that. Low risk, fairly substantial reward.

Travlane.5948:

many d/p players go invis 10 secs at a time to heal up..

If you do this, youre exactly the kind of player I am talking about when I say

wish.1027:

pathetic.

How many noobs here . If you cant kill a thief , is because you are noob . I have a guardian and a thief , and being awareness of how thiefs play , most of the times i defeat thiefs with my guardian . Remove the stealth? Are you joking? With 14k of hp?

The shame is that GW always always listen the criers , and thief will be nerfed ( again) , and kitten . What about warriors killing only pressing 2? What about mesmers with so many ilusions that you dont know what the hell you have to target , and moa skill? What about necros that can last more than plate classes ? Stop crying and learn to play .

Thangorodrim.2748:

How many noobs here . If you cant kill a thief , is because you are noob . I have a guardian and a thief , and being awareness of how thiefs play , most of the times i defeat thiefs with my guardian . Remove the stealth? Are you joking? With 14k of hp?

The shame is that GW always always listen the criers , and thief will be nerfed ( again) , and kitten . What about warriors killing only pressing 2? What about mesmers with so many ilusions that you dont know what the hell you have to target , and moa skill? What about necros that can last more than plate classes ? Stop crying and learn to play .

Think you are just afraid that you’d need to l2p if they’d nerf your little crutch.

Think you are already just afraid and that’s why you cry .

Its not stealth its invisibility which are two entirely different things and GW2 has the worst “stealth” system I have seen in any MMO ever you can’t balance a class around needing to be invisible 90% of the time its completely kittened.

Thangorodrim.2748:

How many noobs here . If you cant kill a thief , is because you are noob . I have a guardian and a thief , and being awareness of how thiefs play , most of the times i defeat thiefs with my guardian . Remove the stealth? Are you joking? With 14k of hp?

The shame is that GW always always listen the criers , and thief will be nerfed ( again) , and kitten . What about warriors killing only pressing 2? What about mesmers with so many ilusions that you dont know what the hell you have to target , and moa skill? What about necros that can last more than plate classes ? Stop crying and learn to play .

How do you catch a thief that wants to get away? Bane Signet? Zealot’s Embrace? Chains of Light? Those are all targetted knockdowns and immobilizes that can’t be used on stealthed targets. Ring of Warding? Sure, if you can catch them to begin with, you might be able to hold them in one place for 5 seconds, once every 32 seconds traited. Leap of Faith? 12 second cooldown traited; they’re long gone by the time you can use it again. Flashing Blade needs a target, too.

Sorry, I just don’t buy it. Any thief that wants to get away from you will get away from you. If they’re sticking around, it’s because they want to stick around and finish the fight. Lord knows I’ve stuck around in unwinnable fights to finish them when they were fun.

So, you are all complaining, but what you suggest to change the thief?

You can’t remove the invisibility. Whats the point of play as thief if you can’t stealth and wait for an opportunity moment?
And if you think that thief is still good with burst damage or condition, warrior and necro can be way better.
You can’t make them take more damage while in stealth, otherwise there would be a lot of eles AoE spammers in wvw.

I can’t see a better way to make the thief do what he is supposed to do, and don’t look like a weak version of the warrior.

People don’t like thieves cause a lot of them gank noobs and if they fight someone halfway decent they run like kittenes.

The game I previously played, implied thiefs having infinite stealth, by what I mean is if you successfully got in stealth, you could stay in it for how long you want, cure all conditions, regenerate all health, and there was absolutely no QQ in that game, although here, a thief stealth’s for a few seconds and every body looses their minds, lol.