Guild Wars 2

Hey guys I have a rather interesting thief build for you all. S/d and s/p. The synergy is actually pretty darn good. The sacrifice is less damage in exchange for a HUGE buff in survivability, utility, and over all team fight up time. You know that thief thats there for like 5 seconds then has to leave combat meanwhile u guys are being outnumbered till the thief gets back? Dont be that guy anymore. Try my build out. And i do have higher damage variants coming soon. `AZ TOLD YOU FIRST!

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Have you tried Acro 3-2(3)-2, Trick 2(1)-2-2, DD 1-3-3? I feel like Upper Hand, Sleight of Hand, and Impacting Disruption hits harder and faster without cutting back too much on condition clear or healing, just grab a Scorpion Wire maybe.

I think the build is pretty good from what I saw. It feels a bit more like a bruiser than a roamer.

Some things I noticed from your video is your lack of stun breaks really hurts your survivability. I think replacing blinding powder with Bandit’s Defense will go a long way, especially vs the DH traps.

why do u play so close with the camera x.x

Ill give it a try kash! And frowny i have tried multiple breakers and as i do need another one, I find that make them untarget me is more important. Cant tell u how many times im stuck in s/p and i have to stealth before 2 reapers and a berserker burst me. Bandits defense will block everything for a while but as soon as its over they still have me targeted and are chasing me hard. Plus blinding powder+pistol 5 has helped me res teamates where as BD wont. I feel like that skill is more selfish than anything else. Ill post another video where you can see more strengths and weaknesses of this build. and ur right about DH traps.

I was mostly curious if you had tried that, not so much suggesting it. I play WvW so I’m eating through different stats and compositions, I don’t know jack when it comes to spvp really. Nice orientation and spacing though, looks like you read the court like a point guard and it seems like you use your dodges defensively and offensively at the same time.

That actually looks pretty good, ive been rolling with s/d+d/p

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAsY8an0MBlOhVOBGmC8PhFqiau67+yvrnCgDwLDShSA-TJBFAB3v/AAPBAxLDQwJBAA

These are the choices I would’ve gone for. The blood sigils and scrapper runes help you to heal a little more and tank more damage so you can be in combat longer. I know you didn’t like it but I preferred bandit’s defense to give you more face to face brawling ability. Traits I swapped to sleight of hand so you have more cc and can interrupt with steal, hard to catch so you can have an extra stunbreak and endurance refill to help you in combat, and quick recovery to give you more sustain via regen and extra initiative to use in your fights because you evade like crazy with this build. Having the ini recovery will allow you to stay in combat without having to leave to get your cd’s back.

Ario.8964:

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Ill give that a try bro. I’ve been doing alot of testing and what i have so far…. counters just about everything. What i need help on isn’t so much survivability but to add as much damage without sacrificing too much of my survivability. Especially condi bursts.

I switched blackpowder to Assassins signet and changed the amulet to zerker. Which i did see a difference in numbers. But them waiting till i switch to s/p to burst me puts me in a choke hold without stealth options. I even tried bound dodge (the one that adds damage), and I definitely saw a difference in damage but then the condis….

I can pretty much evade all the power build bursts with any variant of this build. My main problems are condi clear if im not running the first build mentioned as is. And in almost all variants, damage is sometimes too low epecially for heal classes(which is why I added poison sigils).

What do you think?

legenduu.4372:

why do u play so close with the camera x.x

I usually play like this with melee classes/builds because I can see the animations better whether it be mine or the enemies. And I can time my dodges more accurately rather than “blind dodging”, I save more dodges and initiative this way.

Rastaman.9015:

Ario.8964:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAsY8an0MBlOhVOBGmC8PhFqiau67+yvrnCgDwLDShSA-TJBFAB3v/AAPBAxLDQwJBAA

Ill give that a try bro. I’ve been doing alot of testing and what i have so far…. counters just about everything. What i need help on isn’t so much survivability but to add as much damage without sacrificing too much of my survivability. Especially condi bursts.

I switched blackpowder to Assassins signet and changed the amulet to zerker. Which i did see a difference in numbers. But them waiting till i switch to s/p to burst me puts me in a choke hold without stealth options. I even tried bound dodge (the one that adds damage), and I definitely saw a difference in damage but then the condis….

I can pretty much evade all the power build bursts with any variant of this build. My main problems are condi clear if im not running the first build mentioned as is. And in almost all variants, damage is sometimes too low epecially for heal classes(which is why I added poison sigils).

What do you think?

Bound is definitely a possible option as EA with PR should be plenty of over time clear with trickster and shadowstep for on demand clears. Running marauder ammy I think is your best option because you don’t want to accidentally get caught by a stealthed d/p burst thief and be 1 shot. To make up some of the damage if you can stay high health you could run scholar runes to provide high power, some extra fero, and a 10% buff while above 90% hp. I’d keep the trait setup I have for the rest of your stuff because it provides higher sustain and regen abilities without sacrificing your damage. Unfortunately there is no fool proof way to destroy all condi builds with thief BUT this setup should yield some good results.

Nice synergy between S/D and S/P; your mobility is awesome and some of your fights on mid are just slaughter haha. I personally use S/P + D/P, but to some extent the concept is similar; a 2nd melee set can enable you to use S/P in a more sustained and effective way.

Nice vid, though I would like to see you build against some HOT classes too, to see if you encounter the same problems as I do vs. some of that awful CC that gets thrown around nowadays.

Probably not with all the cc running around but it would be interesting to see how high someone with experience on those sets could get in pvp.

basically you looking for +1 fight . on even fight you couldnt contribute much and if being target you have to bail out

basically same thief pros and cons

versus sustain class you cant do much 1v1 and versus high dmg class like thief its 50% win loss .

i didnt manage to see the pros about weapon choice in this fight over the d/p

messiah.1908:

basically you looking for +1 fight . on even fight you couldnt contribute much and if being target you have to bail out

basically same thief pros and cons

versus sustain class you cant do much 1v1 and versus high dmg class like thief its 50% win loss .

i didnt manage to see the pros about weapon choice in this fight over the d/p

Yes indeed this is more of a team fighting daredevil build. I can 1v1 no problem most of the time. The main problem i run into is cleric healers that cant die and cant kill. And condi burst I can take. Only certain power builds can kill me really cuz at the end of the day im still a thief. If they target me that makes it better for my team cuz im just gunna evade everything as the enemy wastes their cc’s on me.

As far as other thieves, they cant keep up with me. All i have to do is pistol whip when u get close or when u go invis for the backstab. And evade all the d/p 3 skills and waste ur initiative. by the time u catch me..my team has rotated. (given i have a good team)

one weakness im finding about this build is for teams that would normally rely on thiefs insane burst say for instance 2 bunkers 1 healer and a condi on my team. It gunna be hard to win fights if the other team has at least one healer. 11k vit thieves can still insta gib if they burst it right. Also warrior gs axe/shield crit builds are a problem at times. other than that….A condi reaper catching u of guard can be deadly.

The damage is more in sword auto than anything else. The #3 on both sets are strictly for utility. Ur job is to completely shut down any skill the target is using and to stop their movement, while providing decent damage.

I would recommend running a shrio rev, an aura mancer healer ele, A condi burn reaper(or some type of condi), and a gs power warrior(or some type of aoe crit damage).

This build is perfect for running duo with any mesmer build too!