Guild Wars 2

Is the same reason why I was so disappointed in the ranger’s elite spec.
Boring, generic, and wow, a druid? you don’t say. I never saw that coming.
Which is sad because rangers are so generic and boring in this game as it is.
Even sadder when the melee skills for rangers are far more interesting than the bow skills. Rapid fire? yawn

The fact is the druid reveal didn’t excite as much as Tempest, Dragonhunter, and Engineer due to the fact I already saw that coming from 3,000 miles away.

I much rather see warriors get the assassin elite spec than thieves.
Here’s why.
Currently we are missing a 1,200 range weapon. (Rifle, Longbow.)
Which would be nice to see in a Sniper, Deadeye, Deadshot, whatever the name would be for the Elite spec to give us a longer range weapon.

Assassin for thieves would just be boring for me which is sad because I love the thief class, it’s my favorite one. I think thief for the most part is one of the most well design classes in this game and I would hate to see it go down a route that would just end up being generic assassin spec that gives us perma stealth, high single target damage but very squishy.

Unless they keep the Assassin name and give us a rifle/long bow anyway, I just don’t want a generic melee assassin.

I am fairly confident that because druid demands a staff weapon to coincide with the theme that staff for thief won’t be a thing. While i want a 1200 range choice i am against rifle purely on the fact that it is single target. I am really hoping for “kits” along the lines of engi grenade kit but of course something like ninja stars or kunais type of stuff that promote an aoe style of thief.

Nolimitz.9467:

I am fairly confident that because druid demands a staff weapon to coincide with the theme that staff for thief won’t be a thing.

Do people still believe this reasoning???

Unless they keep the Assassin name and give us a rifle/long bow anyway, I just don’t want a generic melee assassin.

So what? Who cares

I liked assassin in GW1 and I would like to see something similar in GW2 too.

I would hate to see it go down a route that would just end up being generic assassin spec that gives us perma stealth, high single target damage but very squishy.

I disagree 90%

Nolimitz.9467:

I am fairly confident that because druid demands a staff weapon to coincide with the theme that staff for thief won’t be a thing. While i want a 1200 range choice i am against rifle purely on the fact that it is single target. I am really hoping for “kits” along the lines of engi grenade kit but of course something like ninja stars or kunais type of stuff that promote an aoe style of thief.

This would be an awesome idea.

assassin.7895:

Unless they keep the Assassin name and give us a rifle/long bow anyway, I just don’t want a generic melee assassin.

So what? Who cares

I liked assassin in GW1 and I would like to see something similar in GW2 too.

I would hate to see it go down a route that would just end up being generic assassin spec that gives us perma stealth, high single target damage but very squishy.

I disagree 90%

I care, I don’t want something that’s been done to death 1000 times over and have to play a spec I have already played in many countless other games.

This game has some of the most interesting classes, I just don’t want it to be held back like the rangers are right now by being the stereotypical class structure.

Seabreeze.8437:

Nolimitz.9467:

I am fairly confident that because druid demands a staff weapon to coincide with the theme that staff for thief won’t be a thing.

Do people still believe this reasoning???

Didn’t we just see the reveal of revenant having a shield, which chronos got… That and they didn’t explicitly say that weapons can’t overlap. Their table is also the size of the world. They also like to troll us.

So, it’s still possible to get a staff, not that I would want one.

Much rather have a rifle, for the same rehashed reasons.
or
A greatsword and have the elite spec turn us into a brawler – potentially opening up the ability to be in zergs (and not be free loot bags), which aren’t going anywhere…

As a player however I would benefit most if staff was a thing for a thief since ican fulfill my dream of wielding my bifrost less resources to spend on weapons

Honestly whatever the weapon is i hope it focuses on ground target aoe/cc functionality. Staff and kits could fulfill that while rifle just screams single target burst which thieves clearly lack right guise?

Nolimitz.9467:

Honestly whatever the weapon is i hope it focuses on ground target aoe/cc functionality. Staff and kits could fulfill that while rifle just screams single target burst which thieves clearly lack right guise?

See… They lack a few things. One being a 1200 range option… Between that and more melee, most would probably want to take a chance at getting 1200 range. Neither guarantees to be useful, melee we just know we’re squishy and I doubt that will change.

Either way, we will have to wait and see between now and December.

I’d like a Ninja, with (Bo) Staff… and kits. Like Throwing Shuriken, which can be single or multi target. And things like mines on these kit.

I wish we had gotten the assassin instead of thief in GW2.

Also I don’t think thief is going to get kits because that would mean they would need to create too many new skills. Just like they gave ele an offhand so they would only need to make 4*2=8 new skills.

I think we will get stances, which would suck since they don’t allow for very flashy skill effects. All the other elite specs so far have very nice skill effects, so that would mean we would be lacking in the coolness department as well.

I would like to get rifle on one hand, but the logical part of me hopes we don’t.

Reason why? Because that would be the lazy way out (and let’s face it, the dev in charge has shown little or no innovation or interest in his balancing of the thief) and we’d see old things like ricochet and range extensions as part of our elite, not new, interesting mechanics like the other professions are getting.

Toxity.. thats no good argument.. just think about it, that Anet will add in the future alot more Elite Specs. this argument doesn’t work, when you think about it, that will upcoming E Specs they will sooner or later have to reuse also those skill heavy utility mechanics, if they don’t want to give E-Specs completely new Utility Skill types to avoid this.

So if Thief gets for example not with its first E-Spec Kits, but instead for example 6 Signets or 6 Physical Skills or 6 Mantras whatever, theres chances that they will get maybe kits with the next or the overnext E-Spec in regard of it if it fits the E-Spec Design.

My personal Hope lies in the staff wielding Ascetic, which will receive 6 Physicals as a kind of unique “GW2” version of a Shaolin Monk thats practically a high specialized defensive Counter Attacker that uses the force of the foes against themself, to give the thief a completely different new role and an alternative gameplay over all the constant stealthing and evading, while providign at the same time also very martial artistical attack moves that are somewhat of a higher better level, and nicer to look at, than what we know yet from the Thief with only Death Blossom being its single only real martial artistic skill currently

As Ascetic, it has something of being a mixture between Monk/Assassins, fighting with a defensive weapon, without havign to name it actually Monk, because imo is Monk a Humans only thing …due to lore and only the humans praying to gods in the past.

But the Ascetic is a simple Thief, who wants to overcome his sins and therefore choose a different path to atone for them by fighting in a defensive way, that makes only usage of the powers of the enemy to turn their powers against them.

Its practially the martial artistic fightign style of the “Empty Palm”, also called “Gentle Fist” or “Juuken” for those that know Naruto, but the real chinese origin fro mthat is called Baguazhang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baguazhang

Many distinctive styles of weapons are contained within Baguazhang; some use concealment, like the “scholar’s pen” or a pair of knives (the most elaborate, which are unique to the style, are the crescent-shaped deer horn knives (Chinese: ???; pinyin: Lùji?od?o). Baguazhang is also known for practicing with extremely large weapons, such as the b?guà jian (???), or bagua sword, and the b?guà d?o (???), or bagua broadsword. Other, more conventional weapons are also used, such as the staff

The major problem with rifle will be it usefulness. sPvP? No way it will be viable or good. WvW? yeah, I guess even SB is more viable in blob fights, for roaming same as sPvP. Dungeons? No way. World bosses? yeah here it can be viable if you like shooting from max distance not doing anything else. Totally boring and unnecessary.

Now you might ask why it would be useless in sPvP and Dungeons. Anet design melee damage>range damage will make it undesirable in dungeons and outside of decaps and stealth the only thing you want thief for is spike damage.

So that’s why me and many others don’t want to see (maybe) cool looking design which will be useless outside of RP. On the other hand melee elite spec. could bring some much needed buffs to thief in it current viable builds.

Anet is not adding any new weapon types to the game. Only adding the same weapons to other classes… So no new kinase or whatever else u wanted.

Just FYI.

lol swinsk, you now that staff is an already existing weapon.. do you ?? >.>

So nobody is suggesting here any new weapons

Nolimitz.9467:

I am fairly confident that because druid demands a staff weapon to coincide with the theme that staff for thief won’t be a thing. While i want a 1200 range choice i am against rifle purely on the fact that it is single target. I am really hoping for “kits” along the lines of engi grenade kit but of course something like ninja stars or kunais type of stuff that promote an aoe style of thief.

I would also love to see some form of kits,
1. Venom kit (our usual poisons, blinds, and maybe a vaun kit?)
2. assassins kit (crit, might, fury, swiftness)
3. support kit (stealth, shadowsteps, call in additional thieves, evades)

It would let thieves go into a greater variety of playstyles and add some new twists.

Can you stop it please? Seriously. There wasn’t even a druid reveal yet, and you already don’t like it.
RIFLE WON’T BE HAPPENING. Thieves don’t cope with long range combat, deal with it.

We were given plenty of teleportation to close gaps. I mean Steal is 1,200 range for f’s sake, and you could get that every 20 seconds if traited.

This range weapon argument doens’t hold anymore. stahp.
You want a stealth sniper with teleportation enabled? You don’t think that’s generic? I have played a few MMOs with characters with those abilities

1200 range doesn’t guarantee a nice synergy/usefulness as a thief and Staff weapon skin has been out for months now.

Now when it comes to kits? Idk. Neither excited nor annoyed by it.

Kocoff.7582:

Can you stop it please? Seriously. There wasn’t even a druid reveal yet, and you already don’t like it.
RIFLE WON’T BE HAPPENING. Thieves don’t cope with long range combat, deal with it.

We were given plenty of teleportation to close gaps. I mean Steal is 1,200 range for f’s sake, and you could get that every 20 seconds if traited.

This range weapon argument doens’t hold anymore. stahp.
You want a stealth sniper with teleportation enabled? You don’t think that’s generic? I have played a few MMOs with characters with those abilities

1200 range doesn’t guarantee a nice synergy/usefulness as a thief and Staff weapon skin has been out for months now.

Now when it comes to kits? Idk. Neither excited nor annoyed by it.

What about dragonhunter and traps? Necro is naturally ranged but got melee shroud and GS. Staff would just be a land spear.

Orpheal.8263:

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This would be a great idea as well, I much rather see this.

Kocoff.7582:

Can you stop it please? Seriously. There wasn’t even a druid reveal yet, and you already don’t like it.
RIFLE WON’T BE HAPPENING. Thieves don’t cope with long range combat, deal with it.

We were given plenty of teleportation to close gaps. I mean Steal is 1,200 range for f’s sake, and you could get that every 20 seconds if traited.

This range weapon argument doens’t hold anymore. stahp.
You want a stealth sniper with teleportation enabled? You don’t think that’s generic? I have played a few MMOs with characters with those abilities

1200 range doesn’t guarantee a nice synergy/usefulness as a thief and Staff weapon skin has been out for months now.

Now when it comes to kits? Idk. Neither excited nor annoyed by it.

Well the Druid has only be mentioned as the first Elite Spec, it was still a disappointment just because I already knew it was coming before they showed it. Because I saw it coming from the first moment they said Elite Specs were going to be thing in the game.

I am already disappointed in the core class itself for the lack of new and fresh ideas for the bows and the horrible pet system.

why people say that rifle is sin gle target ?
are dev obliged to make rifle skills only single target ? can’t they make rifle with aoe damage ?

i would love to see that on the thief’s elite spe
the kits as described above would be really nice as well
Anet shouldn’t keep us waiting ! =D

Vooriden.3927:

why people say that rifle is sin gle target ?
are dev obliged to make rifle skills only single target ? can’t they make rifle with aoe damage ?

i would love to see that on the thief’s elite spe
the kits as described above would be really nice as well
Anet shouldn’t keep us waiting ! =D

SB is already AoE let’s not give our staff rivals reasons not to get rifle.